Subnautica's sound designer is apparently racist and transphobic. [Update: Fired]
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A moron. The guy's completely delusional. His Twitter feed is some of the dumbest shit you can find on the internet.
People like him make me wonder if most of those types of persons aren't just trolling to make money on rubes. I mean, I remember when he was starting he was into some really bizzare conspiracy theories. If one believes that crap as much as he seemed to be, I don't see how he could make a switch to "right-wing rationalist" persona that he now presents. I mean, he still can say some dumb things, but they're nowhere near the leve lf crazy he used to spout. It just seems very convienient when he switched when one horse was dying and Trumpism was becoming a booming industry.Or soy boy...
Seriously those assholes not only eat, they actively promote the fucking thing on their terrible shows and have the nerve to say that soy makes you ''less of a man''' or some shit.
Oops.
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What a pathetic ban
This has been a thing since forever though. Children represent their parents, students represent their schools, and employees' behavior reflects on their employer. You are considered a representative of the company you work for, so if it turns out that you are an awful person with hateful views, the company is expected to get rid of you. Because if they don't, then people will assume that those awful opinions are actually held by the company itself.
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Wait why was this guy banned? How is he defending racism and transphobia and doubling down on it? what the eff?
Free speech isnt a thing on Era I guess.
I mean, yes, but at the same time is hilarious to me to see someone who basically perpetrated the ''soy conspiracy'' to be actively selling the thing to people who can't seem to read the back of a box. Not only that a thing that they even created a dumb pejorative out of.
How is he not defending racism and transphobia? That whole point is literally him trying to defend the devs obviously racist and transphobic tweets/messages
Okay, I didn't think I needed to explain this, but here goes. Transphobia and racism aren't "opinions" They're views that can be directly linked to discrimination and violence that minorities face. Their words and actions have consequences for some of us, as minorities. And wanting to hold him accountable for bigoted views, and the consequences of them, isn't censorship. In his other post in this thread, he even said that we were slandering this guy openly.
Defending transphobia and racism by treating them as opinions and and telling others to tolerate them is played out.
This absolutely should not be a thing though. Would you hold a company like Microsoft, with its millions of employees, to the same standard?
I bet you 10 quid that at least one Nazi sympathizer works for McDonalds - doesn't mean they're the fourth reich.
It's a very American way of viewing a company which is unfortunately spreading across the world.
This is a private message board. Of course free speech isn't a thing here. Do you know what free speech is?
I don't think he is defending anyone especially because he says this
He just thinks people who think this way should be reasoned with, instead of acting like they don't exist and not have a dialogue with these kind of people with these horrible opinions.
He just thinks people who think this way should be reasoned with, instead of acting like they don't exist and not have a dialogue with these kind of people with these horrible opinions.
I don't think McDonald's, of all companies, is going to wring their hands about firing someone who can tarnish their brand. They've long prided themselves on being family friendly, they're incredibly visible, and their workforce is highly disposable.
His complaint was that people were calling transphobes trash. How is that silencing them? That's just responding to their opinion.
Yes that within reason you are able to voice your opinion without fear of getting arrested by a certain government or institution.
Just because this is a private message board doesn't mean you should be able to fly Nazi flags or some shit like that. But we should be able to discuss things like normal human beings.
Where do people come to this forum with this idea? That it's ok to accept transphobia, or sexism, or racism or whatever else? I've seen this so much lately. Like, do you people not know the context of what born this forum? Do you see who's on the mod team and what they represented back on gaf? For real? You didn't think this place would have a super hard stance on comments of ill nature that antagonize and materialize in discrimination against women/lgbtq/all else?
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I realize some of this comes from your misunderstanding of the word "boycott", which was really unfortunate.
Did you read his only other post in this thread to see what he was doubling down on?
Its pretty much just defending the guy.
What do do you mean by free speech? You can't just say any terrible thing without repercussion. We have mods here for that. If you're talking Freedom of Speech, that doesn't apply to private web forums either.
This notion that you can say any dumb thing without recourse on a private web site specifically created for productive discourse is greatly mislead.
The humanity of black people and transpersons is not up for debate.
If you don't have common sense to not express them publicly then you're a liabilty to their brand. Save your shitty opinions for home.
Murder rate in his country is higher than my country which is in the ME. its also very funny, what he said about IQ... my uncle grew up as a refugee with a "very" harsh circumstances, and yet he later took his PHD from MIT in regional development and spent his life teaching other people in many countries, i don't think this sound engineer has a higher IQ.
what he said is stupid and racist, there is no race with a higher "IQ" than the other, but there is different circumstances that determines a lot of things.. and there is people suffering from war and war crimes. those innocent people deserve to live and to have human rights. above all that, what he said is also wrong, bad people (which exist everywhere) can be "reshaped" and become better with guidance and education.
what he said is stupid and racist, there is no race with a higher "IQ" than the other, but there is different circumstances that determines a lot of things.. and there is people suffering from war and war crimes. those innocent people deserve to live and to have human rights. above all that, what he said is also wrong, bad people (which exist everywhere) can be "reshaped" and become better with guidance and education.
When they pop their heads out from their fellow employees and publicly spew abhorrent racist shit then the company has a responsibility to remove that employee otherwise it's likely a part of their work-culture.
If you have an issue with a staff decision, contact staff instead of shitting up the thread by acting all offended about us allegedly censoring your fru speach. Transphobia and racism are not simply Opinions™, period.
Expect harsh treatment for doing the above.
Expect harsh treatment for doing the above.
The term "SJW" is a telltale sign of being triggered. It's kinda funny how it shows who the actual snowflake is.
Or soy boy...
Seriously those assholes not only eat, they actively promote the fucking thing on their terrible shows and have the nerve to say that soy makes you ''less of a man''' or some shit.
Oops.
The hilarious thing about Soyboy is it's just recycled Republican fearmongering from the 80s/90s when they started using soy as filler in certain foods. It wasn't called Soyboy then, but it was the same concept, supposedly soy was going to turn all of us boys into girls and was a conspiracy. When you look at lot of conservative/right wing stuff, a lot of it is old battle flags a younger generation keeps picking back up off the ground thinking they're onto something new, and it's just an old tattered Rush Limbaugh script.
Again with this strawman argument - people are not saying that one person holding certain views means that everyone or even a significant proportion at the company holds those views. However, one can certainly judge that company by how it deals with someone who publicly expresses racist or transphobic views while identifying themselves as an employee.
Of course, and with it being a small company it'll be interesting to see the response. It's a damn shame because the game is fantastic (bought in Jan 16) and it's been a pleasure to watch it grow, but those tweets are disgusting, and surely, even top tier audio bloke, has to go.
Exactly. People are people. Unequal results come from unequal circumstances.
Again, not a single person in this thread says the company holds the same views as him. Stop arguing against the imaginary strawman you've created.
Also, i'd fully expect if someone from Microsoft or McDonalds was caught publicly arguing for Nazism to be fucking fired on the spot as it should be.
That's not what I was arguing though. I'm saying that if a company finds out that one of their employees harbors actively awful views and is airing them out in public, then it is that company's responsibility to reprimand or fire that employee. Inaction should be seen as complicity. Period. If the employee doesn't like that then tough shit.
There's also the fact that IQ tests are bullshit and more of a test of how well you know western customs, idioms, and cultural concepts than any actual mark of intelligence.
It's kinda of like when people think someone that is illiterate is a dumb person. I used to volunteer for a literacy center and still have a family member that works there. We had people we were teaching literacy to with high school diplomas and had solid jobs. They just learned to use their 'street smarts' and 'people smarts' to overcome their illiteracy through life. There is an author who was illiterate and was a teacher that graduated college while still being illiterate.
Thumbs up on this. Crazy to see people arguing that it's just his differing opinion, or that hey, he's from Poland, so it's cool. It doesn't matter where he's from, he's an asshole spreading hate, end of story.
I'm friends with a bunch of Polish expats here, and none of them say this shit or think like this. It's not a Polish thing, it's a hate thing.
It's not necessarily that simple , if the employee does it in the context of his work or in a way that directly involves or harms the company you might be in your right to fire him.
When it's mostly unrelated to the company like here things can get a bit more complicated particularly taking into account that laws can vary widely from one country to another.
It would be more interesting if instead of everyone trying to outdo each other in every instance where there is some kind of racism involved to have people exactly examine where these feelings are coming from rather then calling people filth, trash and scum.
Maybe understanding where these emotions come from could lead to a solution, because just yelling here won't solve anything.
So for example, why is he so upset about immigrants from muslim countries, what does he really mean with "importing their crime rate and IQ". Where is this anxiousness coming from?
Just yelling "asshole" will make people like him double down on their opinions, if you think about it, this kind of approach is exactly why Hillary lost to Trump as well.
Maybe understanding where these emotions come from could lead to a solution, because just yelling here won't solve anything.
So for example, why is he so upset about immigrants from muslim countries, what does he really mean with "importing their crime rate and IQ". Where is this anxiousness coming from?
Just yelling "asshole" will make people like him double down on their opinions, if you think about it, this kind of approach is exactly why Hillary lost to Trump as well.
Well, I bought this back when it was fairly new in Early Access so there's not much I can do there but I was considering it as a gift for my brothers who are really into survival games and both recently upgraded their PCs. Just speaking personally here but there are so many high quality games out there that I'll think I'll use my money to support a developer who openly harbors hateful, racist, or transphobic views.
Not especially, no.
You said it yourself, expats.
Half of Poland (in Poland) agrees with this man to a large extent.
Being on a hangover, I literally felt like vomitting scrolling his twitter feed.
That's enough internet for today.
Jesus christ how the fuck can you spend hours on twitter typing and retweeting shit like that ?
Where does it come from? It comes from him thinking that other races are more violent because they're dumber than he is through nature. That his race is superior in some way. It comes from an extreme prejudice against another race. Sure, education should be the ultimate goal. But at the same time, you can't really blame the people that he's insulting for just existing for calling him an asshole either.
At at least in the UK this would be a pretty clear cut case of bringing the company into disrepute and therefore grounds for disciplinary action. If they find it to be gross misconduct, then dismissal is entirely reasonable.
User banned one week: defending racism by generalizing a country as racist.
Actually it comes from people in Poland not wanting to accept muslim immigrants because they do not want a multi cultural society, they want to keep it largely as it is. They fear the creation of ghettos like in France where riots erupt, terrorism like in countries with a large muslim population (Uk, France, Spain).
They have seen some aspects of what muslim immigration brings across Europe and they want none of it.
These are the things the left should try to address and discuss, not just call people out without solutions.
Of course the irony is that they would get along great with radical muslims in many aspects as the Catholiban is already in charge in Poland, banning abortion and making sure gods word is heeded.
They have seen some aspects of what muslim immigration brings across Europe and they want none of it.
These are the things the left should try to address and discuss, not just call people out without solutions.
Of course the irony is that they would get along great with radical muslims in many aspects as the Catholiban is already in charge in Poland, banning abortion and making sure gods word is heeded.
Hmm...going to take issue with that. We know exactly what the "anxiety" is. A year's worth of studies have shown that the highest correlation when determining why people voted for Trump over Hillary was whether or not that person subconsciously harbored racist views: https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/12/15/16781222/trump-racism-economic-anxiety-study
Actual studies show that merely pointing out actual, proven and verifiable facts make these kinds of people still double down. These people have no cure.
That is what I don't understand about the arguments of some of these posters. If the guy has extremely horrible and reprehensible thoughts (that he is advocating for and shouting to the world to see on a open space) he is ok to show that. But if we state our disgust about those things and express our desire to not give monetary support to a person like that that's somehow crossing a line?
Yep, showing accurate data that is in conflict with someone's incorrect worldview tends to just harden that opinion in their mind.
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