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Skelepuzzle

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Apr 17, 2018
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Booooooooo

*smashes Hulk doll*
 

Nordicus

Member
Oct 29, 2017
1,496
Finland
Yeah are there any good LPers that aren't insufferable or super hard shills? It's something I'd love to watch more of but everyone I get suggested doesn't hit right
What do you mean by shill in this context?

The only group LPer left where I watch most of their content is Spoiler Warning Show.

You know those video game critique youtube essays you see pop up on gaming side once in a while? That, but in group LP form. They rarely do LPs entirely blind, at least one person has played the games before. One of their earliest LPs, Fallout 3, (when New Vegas didn't exist yet), that LP was a ~15 hour long dunk of the game.

Oh, also, they LPed Marlow Briggs 4 years ago. Snipped from Tvtropes page:

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Psittacus

Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,927
I think my favourite thing about the channel is how their background in testing meant they would talk about technical stuff casually all the time, but they weren't so far into it that it got dry.
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,375
Reven Wolf is a man of tastes. That XCOM LP is one of my favorites. I've personally always really adored the Cat Lady LP. Freedom Planet is just Woolie and Liam marking out at great game design the entire time. Living Da Dream. Omicron. Indigo Prophecy. I'll probs think of more later.
 

Reven Wolf

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,563
Reven Wolf is a man of tastes. That XCOM LP is one of my favorites. I've personally always really adored the Cat Lady LP. Freedom Planet is just Woolie and Liam marking out at great game design the entire time. Living Da Dream. Omicron. Indigo Prophecy. I'll probs think of more later.
Cheers lol!

I definitely loved Living Da Dream, I feel their early silent hill stuff was pretty great too.

I will say their KotoR LP has a special place in my heart personally, but I do recognize a large portion of that is because KotoR is one of my favorite games of all time so seeing Woolie go through it blind was awesome for me.
 

GlassEmpires

Member
Dec 10, 2018
1,132
On a similar note, I'm watching TMS for the first time and it's got the comfy dynamic that made watching KH a pleasure to watch.

Matt x Woolie on JRPGs are the secret good LPs
 
Oct 25, 2017
6,375
On a similar note, I'm watching TMS for the first time and it's got the comfy dynamic that made watching KH a pleasure to watch.

Matt x Woolie on JRPGs are the secret good LPs

Those LP's fluctuated between moments of being dull af to being some of the best content they ever had. Every moment Woolie started screaming about biracials i was laughing like crazy.
 

Matsukaze

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,232
I've been rewatching the FFX LP.

In terms of gameplay, the LP is super rough and suffers from the "LP tax" (overlooking things in plain sight, not paying attention to what the game is directly telling them, etc).

In terms of commentary and jokes, it's GOLD.
 

Reven Wolf

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
4,563
THE RACE WAR STARTS NOOOOOOOOOOW


I've been rewatching the FFX LP.

In terms of gameplay, the LP is super rough and suffers from the "LP tax" (overlooking things in plain sight, not paying attention to what the game is directly telling them, etc).

In terms of commentary and jokes, it's GOLD.
Honestly I never minded the "LP Tax". It can bother me from certain other LPers, but with the gang, they never really blamed the game for it, which makes it fine in my book. Hell it makes me nostalgic of when I was younger and missed the exact same type of stuff lol.
 

Cam

Member
Oct 27, 2017
3,940
Since the main thread is becoming a minefield, and this thread seems more level headed, I'd like to say how I enjoyed coming in here and reading and keeping up with SBF. I'll definitely miss them together but to echo statements made, it was clear that chemistry wasn't as prevalent anymore.

I will admit, I stopped listening to the podcast about a year ago, mainly due to Pat and his aggressive rudeness talking over people with loudness, being obnoxious, and overall just mean spirited at times. I couldn't listen anymore. Despite not listening, I did watch his archives on YouTube and some twitch streams were entertaining, but maaan, sometimes the dynamic between him and Paige is weird. I understand every relationship is different but I always felt uncomfortable when they would start yelling at each other and I get that they'd laugh, do it in jest, etc. But geez, even if I joked about some of the shit with my wife, she wouldn't have it, nor would I want to joke with her in that manner of seemingly mean spirited things to say. So it's kinda not surprising to read about all these things coming out about them, but I don't wanna speculate and feed into with my own opinion.

I'll just say I'll follow the others to the end. Matt and his wife are still cute and I love his passion with the things he does with his channel, Liam will always be a rising superstar and woolie is still awesome.
 

Mr. Nice_Guy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,716
8 year viewer and first time poster here. Was the first thing I saw when I woke up this morning and even though I haven't watched them with any kind of regularity for the last year or two, I still checked in a lot. Like others I kind of felt like the writing was on the wall but this was sooner than I expected. They're the reason I became such a huge Yakuza fan, found gaf and became a member there and then here, and FnF are what got me to finally learn fighting games. The more I've been thinking today the more I realize how much of an impact these 4 guys I've never met have actually had on my life and it's made me a bit more sad as the day has progressed. Will definitely continue to follow Matt and Wollie's channels. Recent revelations, a dislike of his gradual attitude change, and my general dislike of watching twitch streams means I might not be seeing much more of Pat for the foreseeable future. Best of luck to all of them though, and thanks for delivering everything you bumblekings.
 

Jintor

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
32,377
Those LP's fluctuated between moments of being dull af to being some of the best content they ever had. Every moment Woolie started screaming about biracials i was laughing like crazy.

seriously the game was a bit dull from its beginning but the chill vibes of that stream was so good

#13000 #fe
 

SENPAIatLARGE

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,501
Their JoJo all star Battle video got me into an amazing series, and I'll always thank them for that. I wondered why these manga characters were posing with robots, but knew it looked cool. Now I'm a devoted fan with figures, Blu Ray's and have read all 7 parts.
 

Deleted member 29682

User requested account closure
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Nov 1, 2017
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I feel like I should write something profound about how much they impacted my formative years, but honestly this hasn't really affected me as much as I once thought it would. I jumped on somewhere near the start (I think Shadows of Katmai or something around that time), and throughout it all I've always appreciated the consistency. It says a lot that whenever someone asks for their best LPs, the recommendations stretch the whole run of the channel. But I'll admit I kind of dropped off in the past year. Not really for any sudden reason, it just wasn't as engaging as it once was, compared to others that I now follow more regularly. Maybe that's why I feel like it's easy for me to move on, because I kind of already had.

Still, I don't think I've followed anyone on the internet as long as these guys, and much like Liam's solo stuff has led me to appreciate him more, maybe the same can happen for the others. I don't know if I can (in good conscience) support Pat and Paige, and if the stream chat of the Game Awards was anything to go by, I'm not sure I want to be a part of their community anyway. It's a shame since I did previously enjoy a lot of their content, but in any case I wish all of them the best. Matt seems so much more enthused about his side projects, and if he can live a comfortable life doing what he loves then more power to him.

Anyway I don't have a snappy closing remark, and I don't really know if I'll lurk around in this OT much more after this. Don't know how you all plan to carry this forward (if at all) but whatever happens to us or them, it's been fun.
 

Imran

Member
Oct 24, 2017
6,552
Yeah, I don't think I will support Pat and Paige. Everyone else can do what they like, but I had already been feeling real iffy about it and I dunno. I don't personally want to sit there and do it.

Times may change and I may reconsider, but the caping for MRAs and TERFs and refusing to tell their community to knock their worst tendencies off...I'll probably not watch much of anyone, honestly.
 

Kewlmyc

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
26,682
Those LP's fluctuated between moments of being dull af to being some of the best content they ever had. Every moment Woolie started screaming about biracials i was laughing like crazy.
seriously the game was a bit dull from its beginning but the chill vibes of that stream was so good

#13000 #fe
Their quick turn on Barry and their reactions to his final sidequest made that whole playthrough worth it.

Also the constant shitting on Itsuki.
 

Cantaim

Member
Oct 25, 2017
33,300
The Stussining
You know I've held this off all day but I just wanna get this off my chest.

fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuccccccckkkkkkk this sucks ass. Loved the channel, loved the dumb jokes, and loved the enthusiasm. Like gosh damn this shit sucks ass. Don't think I'll be able to find a LPer that can fill this void. Sigh guess I'll watch some LPs I haven't seen before and crawl through the flophouse and Woolie vs for some LP goodness.
 

Imran

Member
Oct 24, 2017
6,552
We're never going to hear Pat and Woolie talking about Kage super seriously while Matt goes "HE'S JUST EVIL RYU THAT'S SO FUCKING DUMB"
 

ZeroDS

The Fallen
Oct 29, 2017
3,417
I know it was never going to happen but man I would have loved to see Matt and Pat play through Remake 2 this January. I feel like the original run through of the original game was super entertaining, one of my favourites for sure
 

Aske

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
5,571
Canadia
well. i've never been one to back down. granted, i can speak for myself, and only myself.

firstly, i don't think you're evil. i don't think paige's evil either. neither of you are certainly fascists. that's a very strong word, and strong words deserve to be treated with care.

secondedly, again, speaking for myself, i don't expect anyone to agree with me — especially not me. i'm a stark raving mad techno-socialist whose entire praxis hinges on 'well guys maybe we can accomplish a post-scarcity society in the near future'. i would hope most people aren't like me. i have lots of friends from all shades of political beliefs. i think it's good to cut the teeth of your beliefs on others. if you don't, how can you know it's what you believe? one of my best friends is a conservative libertarian type who i disagree with on many occasions, and agree with on many more.

but none of those things are basic human rights. i draw the line there.

i totally understand, and respect, wanting to listen to every viewpoint, like i said, i try to do this myself, but there's a certain contingency of people who see that well intentioned desire to engage in good faith — and prey on it. they're wolves, sneaking into the sheep's pen, asking if they can sit down to have a polite discussion over the ethics of eating sheep. they have no interest in arguing in good faith.

jean paul-sarte, asshole that he is, puts it better than i ever could.



and by clinging onto the civility we hold dear, the very civility they want to destroy — they get away with it.

innuendo studios has a great series on the alt right playbook that, tbh, i think everyone should take a look, because these guys aren't playing by the same rules we do. they act dumb, and their views are dumb, but the way they push those views is very, very, very calculated. contrapoints has a nice little primer, too. and umberto eco's essay on ur-fascism is, of course, classic.

but, tl;dr: they're smart. they know what they're doing. giving them the time of day is, in fact, dangerous, because they love to poison the well. ask any ex-gamergater who got in too deep, they'll tell you..

and here's the thing — i hate this. like, i really do. i don't like assuming bad faith. it fucking sucks. this is the worst timeline.


i don't like seeing my jewish friends worry if their next trip to the synagogue will be their last. i don't like seeing my trans friends freak out over our government's slow strip down of their personhood. i don't like having to warn my gay friends to be careful about who they hook up with on grindr, because it might be a neo nazi with a bat waiting for them. i don't like worrying about whether or not my non able-bodied friends will have to go into debt to get the care they need to live. i don't like watching my black friends get into a dust up with some skinhead punk because he felt like he was hot shit that night. and i especially don't like wondering what some jacked up guy is gonna do because he won't take 'no, sorry, i don't date straight guys' for an answer. and this is in l.a!

i don't like worrying about any of these of things. i wish i didn't have to. i got so much other shit in my life i have to worry about, like my half baked feature script, or my broken tv, or my new job. but unfortunately, that's the times we're living in right now. it's a global phenomenon sweeping every country off its feet, very akin to its origins the 1930s. and every little domino, offline, or online, helps it along.

and, seriously man, because i ain't too proud to beg here: when a jewish person, or a queer person, or a person of color, or a trans person, or a woman, or anyone tells you that someone makes them feel afraid, or unsafe, please listen. don't shut them down. talk to them. understand why they feel that way. come to your own conclusions, because, yeah, sometimes people are wrong, or misunderstand — but give them a fair shot.

that's all i gotta say, man. again, i don't think you're evil. i don't hate you. hard to — you've helped me through some tough times. i just, i don't know, i hope you read all of this in good faith. that's all, i guess.

I'm not a regular in this thread, but I love the Zaibatsu, and in the wake of the split, I came here to check out Pat's threadmarked post. Classic example of someone just not getting why some things ought to be taken more seriously. I'm not going to boycott him over what boils down to "lighten up, I only care about videogames, politics is yawn, and the sky isn't falling", but it's not a good look when the conversation's about Jontron.

I don't know if he read the above post, but I did; and I feel it deserves quoting in full, because it is fucking strong.
 

Mr. Nice_Guy

Member
Oct 27, 2017
1,716
RE2, SH2, The Walking Dead S1, Downcoming, Deadly Premonition, I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream, Parasites Eve and L.A Noire to name a few.

These are all fantastic. Deadly Premonition had me excited for new episodes back in the day more so than some actual shows I watch. The first episode of the Parasite Eve LP got me to buy the game and play it myself before watching theirs. I need to start playing the TMS LP in the background while I study.
 

HammerFace

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
2,227
These are all fantastic. Deadly Premonition had me excited for new episodes back in the day more so than some actual shows I watch. The first episode of the Parasite Eve LP got me to buy the game and play it myself before watching theirs. I need to start playing the TMS LP in the background while I study.
I've actually never finished the PE lp. I've tried multiple times but I always dropping it around episode 5-7 for some reason. But it did inspire me to buy the book it's loosely based on!