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xero93

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fate peaked at Fate/Zero, the second medium to come out of that mess of a series.

And the best points of Fate/Zero cam only be truly appreciated after suffering through the original 26 ep stay/night anime that is complete garbage. (Unless a later adaptation fixed it but even then, while Fate/Zero is good, it's not SO GOOD I'd subject someone to watch any other fate series as homework for it)
 

A.J.

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fate peaked at Fate/Zero, the second medium to come out of that mess of a series.

And the best points of Fate/Zero cam only be truly appreciated after suffering through the original 26 ep stay/night anime that is complete garbage. (Unless a later adaptation fixed it but even then, while Fate/Zero is good, it's not SO GOOD I'd subject someone to watch any other fate series as homework for it)
Strange Fake is better than Zero though. Granted it's not done yet.
 

Deeks

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Oct 27, 2017
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The only good Fate related works are Carnival Phantasm and Today's Menu for the Emiya Family, the rest of it's some combination of pretentious, porn, incredibly misogynistic or just bad.

but hey they gave musashi and nobunaga big baps so it's great
 

Kewlmyc

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Oct 25, 2017
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Having put $3000 into Fate Grand Order, I can say that if someone wants to get into the series, they should watch Fate Zero and stop there.

Carnival Phantasm is also good but relies too much on actually knowing Tsukihime and Fate Stay Knight.
 

convo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Trying to force these guys on a franchise they obviously have made fun of for as long as these guys have been online, bundled with Pat's pettiness i just think some of their fans just have the wrong idea about what "cool shit" they'd enjoy.
Fate is some ole bullshit that's part of internet history now, so long as people make melty blood jokes, the tendrils will never disappear completly but don't expect any person to dive into that. Ask someone to dive into homestuck and you get some other weird fandom stuff about buckets and spit ? But we got undertale music out of it.
 

Chaos2Frozen

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Nov 3, 2017
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As a general rule, I don't like introducing things to other people and I don't like being introduced things by other people.

Yes I'm missing out on Game of Thrones, no I don't particularly care yet.
 

Frozenprince

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Oct 25, 2017
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Fate/Stay Night is fine, a little dumb and too self serious but it's fine. It's not high art or anything and it gave us Zero which is pretty god damn interesting if you ignore everything around it.

Other than that the "Franchise" is WAAAAAAAAY too up its own god damn ass for what literally amounts to "what if all these famous historical figures, but waifus". But hey waifus are easy money so kudos to seeing a gap in the market I guess.
 

Woozies

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Nov 1, 2017
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Fate peaked at Fate/Zero, the second medium to come out of that mess of a series.
This is the wrong answer

Strange Fake is better than Zero though. Granted it's not done yet.
This is the right answer.

As for aesthetics. I'm talking purely the art that has progressed since like 2010. Like from Fate Extra onwards. I'm not talking bout Fate/Stay Night when i say aesthetics.
 

GlassEmpires

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Dec 10, 2018
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the best aspects of fate are the battle royale and deduction/mystery mind games the characters participate in to determine which historical figures are which class and what bonkers fucking powers they have hidden. and the porn.
 

GlassEmpires

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Dec 10, 2018
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if it looks good and isn't related to prisma illya it's acceptable
I'm guessing they meant the porn fans make.
yeah

and to get back on topic, Pat could get into Fate. Anyone can. Its biggest weakness is its strength. There's too much varied media to not have something any particular would like. Fuck viewing order, just jump in.
 
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xero93

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Oct 25, 2017
820
Catching up on podcasts, finally got to the endgame spoiler cast and Holy shit I'm done. Pat literally just being wrong about the cap-timeline pissed me off. Woolie kept giving evidence that he's right and Pat was being a dick until Woolie fell for his misinformation.

It's not even "haha zany quirky Pat is always wrong" it's just infuriating. Wouldn't even let Woolie finish his sentences.
 

Anung

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Oct 25, 2017
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Call me crazy but isn't this incredibly hypocritical considering Plague said this and more in this Twitter tirade.

 

convo

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Oct 25, 2017
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I forgot that eyepatch is in the same place as Woolie so of course the joke was made.
Still amazed that Woolie didn't find out about the basement yet, it's so much of the plot now that the reveal seems like so long ago.
 

SilentMike03

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Oct 27, 2017
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Eyepatch Wolf is on the latest episode of Woolie's podcast. It's really good. I think Woolie has something really special with this series.

I'm assuming those tweets are about Pat and Woolie going in on Owen on the pod. I agree it was over the line. I fucking hate that passive aggressive shit though. If you've got a problem, call them out directly.
 
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Eyepatch Wolf is on the latest episode of Woolie's podcast. It's really good. I think Woolie has something really special with this series.

I'm assuming those tweets are about Pat and Woolie going in on Owen on the pod. I agree it was over the line. I fucking hate that passive aggressive shit though. If you've got a problem, call them out directly.
Who did they call out? Is this the Polygon dude?
 

Jintor

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was the Owen good article that bad? This podcast is pretty vicious in a not particularly comfortable way, even when I agree with pat and woolie largely
 

Jintor

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can get with them on ragging on Australia though, Australians love ragging on Australia too
 

Snowybreak

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Oct 25, 2017
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Was the Owen good article that bad? This podcast is pretty vicious in a not particularly comfortable way, even when I agree with pat and woolie largely
After listening, and re-listening to that segment, I think the anger they are throwing that guy's way hinges on the fact that the article is written in a very corporate-apologist fashion.
 

convo

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Oct 25, 2017
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Microsoft conference leaks are out of control right now, good news for Pat that the next From game is a big big game and not a one-and-done deal like Sekiro that does not cater to Pat's infinite-treadmill-needs and thus he'll forget a thing has ever happened.
 

Brian Damage

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Nov 1, 2017
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Microsoft conference leaks are out of control right now, good news for Pat that the next From game is a big big game and not a one-and-done deal like Sekiro that does not cater to Pat's infinite-treadmill-needs and thus he'll forget a thing has ever happened.
Apparently there was a big issue at Bamco, so I assume it won't go beyond their games.