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Super Mario Maker 2 Direct (May 15 at 3 p.m. PT / 6 p.m, 15 minutes) [See threadmark]
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The title of the section even says "Extra Styles", plural, so there's a bit more chance than just empty UI space.
if you had told me that there was going to be a level with rising tides in it, finally bringing normal water to the series, but the level theme was Forest and not Beach I'd have called you crazyI really want the 3D World beach.
Is 3D World game style adjacent to the core game styles or does it include everything that the core game has plus 3D World additions?
It's great. I love the goombas, the boos. They really have more character than the bland NSMB line.
I really hope there are more new enemies in the main 4 styles
pokey, and chargin chuck, mecha koopa, fuzzy, and spikes, and sumo bros
pokey, and chargin chuck, mecha koopa, fuzzy, and spikes, and sumo bros
Preordered Mario Maker, got the bundle with the game and Nintendo Online.
Played through SMB 1 yesterday which I hadn't done in years. Honestly not surejif I've ever beaten the original NES game, I think the GBC version was my first full playthrough of it (along with Lost Levels, those took me a while as a kid).
The Save States was a life saver in the game. I only did it per level and didn't really do any mid level checkpoints. Some of those levels are harder than I remember, and I was super rusty at SMB's physics.
I'm playing through SMB2 (USA) now and I do hope Mario Maker gets that game set as an add-on or DLC in the future. Such a great look, way different gameplay, and the distinct playable characters.
Played through SMB 1 yesterday which I hadn't done in years. Honestly not surejif I've ever beaten the original NES game, I think the GBC version was my first full playthrough of it (along with Lost Levels, those took me a while as a kid).
The Save States was a life saver in the game. I only did it per level and didn't really do any mid level checkpoints. Some of those levels are harder than I remember, and I was super rusty at SMB's physics.
I'm playing through SMB2 (USA) now and I do hope Mario Maker gets that game set as an add-on or DLC in the future. Such a great look, way different gameplay, and the distinct playable characters.
It's not quite the same thing, but the desert theme for Super Mario World actually uses the tiles from its mountain levels
That pretty much has been the case since the reveal. (They wouldn't bother to capture a handheld mode footage, would they?)
Wow ok :( , i mean how tedious will it be to create from a cursor?
The touchscreen on the switch almost pointless. I wish they would have kept the integrated stylus of the 3ds too.
Probably what we've seen is creation while docked. The stylus as a preorder bonus in certain territories implies touch screen functionality is there for handheld mode.
I'm still wondering if Mario in the 3D World style will have his complete moveset.. meaning Long Jump, Somersault, Side Somersault, High Jump after a Ground Pound and even walking while crouching somehow.. We've seen characters doing some kind of Spin Jump in the air, which wasn't possible in the original game (just spinning in place and then jumping), but if they don't incorporate the other moves, he wouldn't be much different of how he plays in NSMBU (actually he would have everything but the double and triple jump, so a lesser version)
I think the gimmick for 3D World's controls will be the tiered run speed, double (but no triple) jump and the helicopter spin. That alongside the cat suit's special properties, I guess.
Why would they need to be involved at all? Do you believe they're the only dev in the world capable of creating Paper Mario-style sprites?
No, but from seeing how different the 3D World style is, it goes way beyond creating sprites.
We've seen similar situations before. Even though NLG developed Luigi's Mansion 2, Nintendo had a whole group of people supervising its development. It's only natural that IntSys would have a fair amount of input for a style that uses one of their biggest franchises.
There's also the rumour I mentioned that part of the 3D Mario team in Tokyo is working with 2D team in Kyoto now. I wouldn't be surprised if that had something to do with 3D World getting into the game in the first place.
I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but I'm expecting another mainline game before any spinoffs. At least for launch.
Oh my god I'd love this, but Paper Mario or Mario Bros USA would be better.
This is absolutely nothing like developing a full new game like Luigi's Mansion 2. The whole point of Mario Maker is to be as close to the original sprites as possible; they would not create new art for almost anything except the backgrounds at most (which aren't exactly the most technically involved thing considering, well... paper).
I mean, it could be whatever, but Intelligent Systems not being involved is a complete non-issue.
Hey! I didn't catch that during the Direct, that's great! I was hoping for this kind of mobility for the first time in a 2D Mario!
That's my #1 wish for the next style. Would love to see what kinds of tweaks to the gameplay Nintendo would introduce to Mario 2, in the same way that they added stacking enemies, big enemies, etc. to the other Mario styles.
It's more likely than it isn't with the s in style(s)
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I dunno about "The whole point of Mario Maker is to be as close to the original sprites as possible", Super Mario World Bowser is still a glaring divergence along with a few other oddities across the themes.
I just had an idea. What if you were thrown in a room with a hundred crying baby Mario's in bubbles, with one of the bubbles containing the key to your exit. The goal was to chase all of the bubbles around until you hit the one with the key, ensuring your escape. Maybe I could make it underwater for extra torture, as well as bunch of obstacles standing in your way.
I need to write that one down.
Yep. There were a fair amount of new assets added to most styles in the first game, so I don't know why Paper Mario would be exempt?
I was talking about gameplay moreso than art anyway. What would be the point in Paper Mario being an "extra style" if it was just like the first four but with a paper aesthetic? 3D World broke the iron rule with how different it is. Well NSMBU had wall jumping and ground pounding but that's about it.
The extra gameplay style is you go into a turn-based battle with every enemy you touch. Boom. Genius. No brainer.
Are we really doing this now? Pointing out the 5% of sprites that are different, ignoring the 95% that are literally pixel-perfect identical, and extrapolating from there that the Paper Mario sprites would all be redesigned from scratch?
If you put Bower in a clown car in the World style it should make him look and function like he does in World.
Oh man, imagine a Donkey Kong Country Creator with styles for all fives games (DKC1, DKC2, DKC3, DKCR, DKCTF).
That's true, but I would be OK with them:
1) Limiting you to thematically consistent stuff, i.e. Pirate Kremlings are only available in the DKC2 style
and
2) It could offer a layer of complexity beyond Mario Maker by allowing us to program trigger points for destructible terrain and other dynamic set-pieces (i.e. bombs going off, collapsing cave ceilings, etc)
Just imagine the glory of seeing Rare's pre-rendered sprites and backgrounds remastered in HD ;_;
While smb usa/2 would probably be the safest bet, I'd love to see a super mario 64 style special theme. The back flip and ability to punch would make it feel really different from the other styles and how you made levels. Power up of metal suit could also lead to a lot of cool water levels in 2d.
Nope. NSMBU has the triple jump, ground pound and wall jump. 3D World doesn't have a triple jump, but will at least have the ground pound, wall jump and long jump, from what we've seen.
Then I guess it's a 3D World Extra Styles thing in the video clip.
Nope, in NSMB games you can only Wall Jump, Ground Pound and do Double and Triple Jumps while running (and also a little twirl in the air to get height); In 3D World you got all the acrobatics from Super Mario 64, except for the Double and Triple Jump I mentioned (oh, you can't Dive either, but that wouldn't have much use in 2D with Long Jump already existing)