The local wireless multiplayer is a different mode from the speculated single-console multiplayer mode.
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Super Mario Maker 2 Direct (May 15 at 3 p.m. PT / 6 p.m, 15 minutes) [See threadmark]
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There are so many friggin possibilities for versus levels with the changing victory conditions.
It is literally what I have wished for Nintendo to do for a LONG time, competitive platforming. It is such a fantastic and simple thing that games like Runbow and Ultimate Chicken Horse have already shown to be a great concept.
It is literally what I have wished for Nintendo to do for a LONG time, competitive platforming. It is such a fantastic and simple thing that games like Runbow and Ultimate Chicken Horse have already shown to be a great concept.
Oh yeah... I have my doubts there will be single console multiplayer anyway, I don't see why they wouldn't have mentioned it if it was there.
To get people to pre-order the Limited Edition with an NSO subscription? To save a decently big reveal for E3 (I don't think the Hammer Power-Up is big enough to be newsworthy)? I dunno, but the info pointing towards single-console multiplayer (in the Direct footage and on places like the eShop/Japanese website) is enough to make me think it does exist.
We know local multiplayer for one system exists. It's on the Japanese site too. People have speculated maybe it means 4 people can create a level or its only 4 people can play a level that was created on that Switch.
I'm just being a little paranoid. In my mind I know it should be a reveal that was saved for E3 to show you can "download online courses to your Switch and do 4 players on them on the same Switch without needing 3 other Switches" and they would show 4 Treehouse members doing it.
I'm just being a little paranoid. In my mind I know it should be a reveal that was saved for E3 to show you can "download online courses to your Switch and do 4 players on them on the same Switch without needing 3 other Switches" and they would show 4 Treehouse members doing it.
I loved Mario Maker. Lots of new neat features in this one. But still no option to make your own world-maps and with that your own "whole" Mario game breaks my heart :( That was the number 1 feature I wanted for the first game. It also sucks that you need Nintendo Online for this one.
Someone on Reddit made a thread about alarmingly low enemy budgets. In the video with Arino Arino manages to use up the entire enemy budget at one point when making his level. He erased some stuff in a jump cut cuz he had more budget when he continued working on it. The reddit user counted 40 enemies in the level, but they must have not counted some things that count towards that budget:
This map contains:
Enemy budget includes all enemies except Bowser/Jr, trampolines, p-switches, pow blocks, grinders, bouncepads, firebars, one-way walls, on/off switches, etc
This map contains:
- Sublevel 1: 75 enemy objects
- Sublevel 2: 75 enemy objects (79) if swinging claws use the enemy budget, which they should
Enemy budget includes all enemies except Bowser/Jr, trampolines, p-switches, pow blocks, grinders, bouncepads, firebars, one-way walls, on/off switches, etc
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We know for Underwater. It dims the light like in Ghost Houses.
Yeah I guess it's likely, it just feels like an extra complication to have to design multiplayer levels with separate screen and single screen play in mind.
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For example, imagine a level with a choice of routes, one long and easy, the other hard but quick, and the hard route has an on/off switch at the end that plunges everyone on the easy route to their doom. That would be great if everyone has their own screen, but rubbish if you all have to stay together.
I do wonder if trying to earn stars from people playing in multiplayer is going to skew level design towards more traditional levels where you can have a good race, rather than more interesting levels that use unusual mechanics or have puzzles. I guess it depends how popular the vs mode ends up being.
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Really the most confusing part of this whole game. I mean, they already had
so they only needed to make SMB and SMB3 variants (or maybe not even; they could probably pass Boss Bass as the SMB3 version) to have them in every theme.
I really wished this game had a clipboard to where you can copy and cut specific parts of your level and paste it into a clipboard.
We haven't seen the copy or multi-grab functions from the original in SMM2 yet, right? There's always the potential that they updated their capabilities.
Yea, SMB3 has Boss Bass, who could easily function as a PorcupufferReally the most confusing part of this whole game. I mean, they already had
so they only needed to make SMB and SMB3 variants (or maybe not even; they could probably pass Boss Bass as the SMB3 version) to have them in every theme.
Yeah they haven't shown it, yet. It's something minor on my list of wants.
That Paper Mario image looks good, but I can't see it. IntSys is likely too busy with Three Houses and whatever the WarioWare/Paper Mario team is doing. They even brought in Koei to help with Fire Emblem.
Also there was some insight from the First Party thread that part of the 3D Mario team in Tokyo will start working with the 2D Mario group in Kyoto, which is probably how 3D World got into this game.
I'm betting it's either SMB2 or Odyssey. I don't know how the latter would work but it's got most of the Mario Maker 2 styles already covered. The only one I can't think of is a Ghost House.
Also there was some insight from the First Party thread that part of the 3D Mario team in Tokyo will start working with the 2D Mario group in Kyoto, which is probably how 3D World got into this game.
I'm betting it's either SMB2 or Odyssey. I don't know how the latter would work but it's got most of the Mario Maker 2 styles already covered. The only one I can't think of is a Ghost House.
I want to make a Multiplayer versus level which eliminates a player as they go room by room. So in the end it's like last man standing after they went through multiple rooms.
How about a level where you throw bob-ombs at each other until last person alive
Friend Codes (Easy Allies) is hoping the new game type is Yoshi's Island or Paper Mario. They talked about Galaxy too, but I don't think Nintendo would go for Galaxy.
i would love mario land as a black & white retro theme, including the weird-ass mario land enemies.
Do people think it's going to launch with extra themes? I expect that section to be something that expands post launch, with 3D World being kind of a proof of concept.
I'm not sure tbh. I could see Nintendo saved it for an E3 reveal, but I could see them releasing a new game as DLC to keep the game fresh down the road.
Right now I'm leaning to it being DLC.
i think it'll launch with what's already known, with 1 or 2 themes being added post launch, again being their own thing and incompatible with the original 4. i'm not sure if they'll be free updates or paid dlc tho, i think the right move is free.
If you put a gun to my head and asked me what game will go in the space next to 3D World I would say it's Super Mario Bros. 2.
Still hoping there's a playable Peach.
Still hoping there's a playable Peach.
I think so. They clearly stated extra styles and to this point this only consists of 3D World so this should at least include one more.
Personally i would opt for Odyssey
My guess is Yoshi's Island or Galaxy.
Wishful thinking and likely wrong though.
The more I thought of it I would absolutely love Yoshi's Island. The style, the gameplay, bosses, etc is so different from your regular 2D Mario games. Plus I think it has the best artstyle of any of them.
One thing though...please no crying Mario.
I said it before in this thread, but I would go apeshit for some new Touch Fuzzy Get Dizzy type of levels.
What are the chances of a Mario 64 style? With all the mods out there of 64 it would be amazing to have it in some official capacity (3D World style of course).
We'd probably get majority of those kind of levels made lol.
I hope they will reveal a new style at E3. It was actually a good idea to make some unique themes since now we have a lot of possibilities. No Paper Mario please, stick to the platformers for now...SMB2/USA, Land or Odyssey would be great.
The dream would be a unique Yoshi Kotabe style but it's very unlikely since there is no specific mechanics attached to that, I don't think Nintendo would create a brand new style with brand new mechanics just for Maker.
The dream would be a unique Yoshi Kotabe style but it's very unlikely since there is no specific mechanics attached to that, I don't think Nintendo would create a brand new style with brand new mechanics just for Maker.
Speculation:
At E3/Treehouse, this is what's gonna get revealed:
-New power ups for each mode (Hammer 3DW, Squirrrel Suit NSMBU)
-New enemies/bosses for all styles
-No New Game styles and/or themes
-Smartphone app/Bookmarks for SMM2
-Local Multiplayer
-Online with Friends
At E3/Treehouse, this is what's gonna get revealed:
-New power ups for each mode (Hammer 3DW, Squirrrel Suit NSMBU)
-New enemies/bosses for all styles
-No New Game styles and/or themes
-Smartphone app/Bookmarks for SMM2
-Local Multiplayer
-Online with Friends
Reminds me of how you get make cheap off brand equivalents in Mario Maker 1 using the dizzy screen effect on certain items, dizzy pow blocks was a fave of mine.
The section for extra styles is just too weird looking with 1 theme in it so my guess is there will be a Mario 2 theme at launch and 1-2 more released for free in the following year. I can't see how they would add Galaxy or Yoshi - the amount of work for both seems like it would be a bit too much
Mario 2 makes sense because 3D world has a lot of elements that don't have counterparts in other themes. So if Mario 2 made it in as a style I'd expect it to be under the same "extra style" section
I would love to see Beach and Mountain themes added. That would really round out the list perfectly.
