Super Mario Maker 2: Switch Online requirements and multiplayer limitations

Atheerios

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So I wanted to make this thread to clarify some details from the Direct as a lot of you are asking the same thing over and over in the other thread.



Super Mario Maker 2 has three main game modes: the story mode, Course World, and Coursebot.

Course World is where all the level sharing and multiplayer occurs and of course this mode is only available to Nintendo Switch Online subscribers. So yeah, leaderboards and Endless Challenge also require the subscription.





In Course World there's the "Network Play" mode which involves multiplayer co-op and competitive play via internet and locally.

You can play with online other people who also have NSO, but local play is a little bit more complicated:

  • Every player has to have their own Switch console and copy of the game
  • The player who creates the room must be connected online throughout the play session
  • The other players who join the local room don't have to be online
  • There doesn't seem to be a way to play multiplayer in a single system with multiple controllers, you need multiple consoles (view edit below).


On the other hand, co-op making, part of the Coursebot mode, is only available locally, using a single system with multiple controllers. Also worth noting that while editing in Co-op you can't use dual Joy-con or the Pro Controller.

Hope this clears out some of the confusion regarding NSO requirements for this game.

Edit: according to he eShop the game supports up to 4 players on a single system, but we know co-op editing is limited to 2 players, so maybe there could be single-console multiplayer at the end. It's currently unknown.
 
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Syril

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Pretty lame not to have actual local play, like on a TV together. Or offline for that matter.
 

Madao

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hold up
Mario Maker 2 doesn't let you use the Pro Controller?
what is up with that bullshit? what does this game do that doesn't let you use this controller? even Pokemon Let's Go and Mario Party had more valid justifications but here it is just what the f...
 

Absent Breeze

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Seems like a real missed opportunity if 2 people can build a stage together but then can't both test it out :(.
 
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Atheerios

Atheerios

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hold up
Mario Maker 2 doesn't let you use the Pro Controller?
what is up with that bullshit? what does this game do that doesn't let you use this controller? even Pokemon Let's Go and Mario Party had more valid justifications but here it is just what the f...
You can use a Pro Controller. It's only while editing in co-op mode that you can't.
 

Braaier

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hold up
Mario Maker 2 doesn't let you use the Pro Controller?
what is up with that bullshit? what does this game do that doesn't let you use this controller? even Pokemon Let's Go and Mario Party had more valid justifications but here it is just what the f...
Might just be for course building? That's my hope at least
 

rpm

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Oct 25, 2017
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hold up
Mario Maker 2 doesn't let you use the Pro Controller?
what is up with that bullshit? what does this game do that doesn't let you use this controller? even Pokemon Let's Go and Mario Party had more valid justifications but here it is just what the f...
I'm fairly sure that's just for the co-op creation mode
It's still fucking dumb, but I don't think the rest of the game is like that
 
Oct 26, 2017
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A lack of local multiplayer on one Switch would be some bullshit, man. That'd be the biggest reason for me to get it
 

justiceiro

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So i can't not even download any course if i don't have the membership? What a load of crap.

Asking a price to host my courses are understandable, but even to download too? Yeah, there goes my reason to get a switch in the near future.
 

HotHamBoy

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Nintendo's post-launch support has been stellar.

I imagine we will definitely get at least one more graphical style compatible with the 3D World courses and I wouldn't be surprised if local co-op comes in an update down the road.
 

HotHamBoy

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So i can't not even download any course if i don't have the membership? What a load of crap.

Asking a price to host my courses are understandable, but even to download too? Yeah, there goes my reason to get a switch in the near future.
They are offering Super Mario Maker 2 with a 1-year sub for $69.99

The online sub is absolutely worth it for $10 when you factor in the NES games. Plus we are now getting subscriber deals like the "two $60 1st Party games for $99 (including new releases)" vouchers they just announced.

That pays for the membership right there.
 

Syril

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So i can't not even download any course if i don't have the membership? What a load of crap.

Asking a price to host my courses are understandable, but even to download too? Yeah, there goes my reason to get a switch in the near future.
I appreciate that the Switch online is way cheaper than the other consoles, but it's crazy how they went as far as gating off every online function in existence.
 

Poltergust

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They are offering Super Mario Maker 2 with a 1-year sub for $69.99

The online sub is absolutely worth it for $10 when you factor in the NES games. Plus we are now getting subscriber deals like the "two $60 1st Party games for $99 (including new releases)" vouchers they just announced.

That pays for the membership right there.
I'm managing a family account. I assume that 1-year sub is not transferable for that?
 

Mr.Fletcher

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Can we team up with friends in online coop or am I stuck with randoms?

Sounds like a silly question, but after Splatoon limited matchmaking with friends to specific modes and Aces wouldn’t let me play doubles with my mate online, it’s worth asking.
 

HotHamBoy

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I appreciate that the Switch online is way cheaper than the other consoles, but it's crazy how they went as far as gating off every online function in existence.
On the other hand, they know a lot of people will not bother making courses and this is the only way to incentivize a sub for this game.

Besides, they haven't gated everytgibg across their games. You can play Luigi's Balloon World in Odyssey without a sub.

I'm managing a family account. I assume that 1-year sub is not transferable for that?
I don't have the answer but I imagine not.

Hell of a deal if you're gonna use that voucher promo as well. It's like they're giving you $10 to join.
 

Vivian-Pogo

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The new 2D Super Mario game having online co-op, but not couch co-op is like some bizarro world Nintendo decision.

Happy for online play though.
 

Sacul64

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My only complaint here is Online required for playing other peoples courses. Sony actually did it right with Dreams and Nintendo has a mode that they could put restricted to online with.
 

Tatsu91

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They are offering Super Mario Maker 2 with a 1-year sub for $69.99

The online sub is absolutely worth it for $10 when you factor in the NES games. Plus we are now getting subscriber deals like the "two $60 1st Party games for $99 (including new releases)" vouchers they just announced.

That pays for the membership right there.
Definitely getting this was gonna sub for a year at the end of the month but i am just gonna get this now
 

AztecComplex

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Screen numbers, I guess.

That racing mode would be impossible, otherwise. Unless you used split screen, but then handheld mode...
I guess they could've gone the Genesis sandwich splitscreen to offer two player coop on one Switch but oh well.

Even Sonic Mania offerec up to 4 player split screen racing.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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I guess it's because of the tight level design of coop Mario games, and things can get pretty crazy if all 4 players can't leave the current screen on custom levels.
Oh I know it'd be a clusterfuck but it's a clusterfuck in any local multiplayer 2D or 3D Mario. I'd be perfectly fine with that as it's a ton of fun with friends and is the main reason why I was considering to get the game
 

HotHamBoy

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My only complaint here is Online required for playing other peoples courses. Sony actually did it right with Dreams and Nintendo has a mode that they could put restricted to online with.
Yeah but really you should sub now that a year is $10 w/ Mario Maker 2 and you instantly save $20 with the purchase of two additional $60 games.

I'm sure we can all think of at least 2 more Nintendo Switch 1st Party games we want this year.
 

Syril

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On the other hand, they know a lot of people will not bother making courses and this is the only way to incentivize a sub for this game.
They already have an online multiplayer mode though. They don't need to require a subscription for the entire selling point of the game too.
 

HotHamBoy

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Meh, hopefully they add 100 Mario challenge back later or its already in there and we just can’t see it yet
Who knows, we got Stage Builder in Smash Ultimate

They already have an online multiplayer mode though. They don't need to require a subscription for the entire selling point of the game too.
It's a little irritating but honestly the deals for NSO revealed in the direct basically nullify the cost.
 
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I think the only other reason I can think of for one person having online as opposed to the other 3 is because you can just pull random levels from online to play with friends.