There's a first time for everything.
I'm not sure why people always look for random trends like this.
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Super Smash Bros. announced for Nintendo Switch (2018, Inklings confirmed, Link has BOTW design)
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I'm not sure why people always look for random trends like this.
People that think that this is a port instead of a new game are probably the same ones that doubted that Xenoblade 2 would release on 2017.
You have to consider that:
-Sakurai and the development team (I'm assuming Namco again) now have HD Smash Bros experience.
-They aren't developing for two platforms with a big power gap.
-They aren't doing exclusive stages or game modes.
-No considerations of what to cut or what wouldn't work based on one of the platforms. The entire focus it's on one.
You have to consider that:
-Sakurai and the development team (I'm assuming Namco again) now have HD Smash Bros experience.
-They aren't developing for two platforms with a big power gap.
-They aren't doing exclusive stages or game modes.
-No considerations of what to cut or what wouldn't work based on one of the platforms. The entire focus it's on one.
The difference between a port and a new game would be a new physics engine. If the keep the smash 4 engine then its a port, if not its a new game.
Guys, Brawl and Smash Wii U/3DS did not actually have six to seven year development times. Brawl began work on 2005 and released in 2008 and Smash Wii U/3DS was announced in 2011, started development in 2012, and released in 2014. If work started on this game in late 2015, that can be perfectly in line with the other games development cycles.
A part of me feels its just a port, but why not just show the gameplay then? Excited either way.
Well considering people are saying it is too soon six years might be enough.
Even if they add a ton of new characters, stages and some new modes?
I think that, along with a revamped menu and main theme is enough to call it a sequel
"might". You would have people say it's too soon at 6 years as well.
in 21 days we'll get 3 mini directs.
All I want is a form of an adventure/story mode and some update to gfx. And I'm good
It's going to be a flying tour stage :'(
Or worse, the largest stage in SSB history
So is Smash 4 a port of Brawl? Which would be a port of Melee I guess?
Does that make this game the rumored Melee HD? Since it's a port of a port of a port of Melee.
Every Smash game is built on previous Smash games
That's what E3 is for. My guess is they'll show off gameplay then and a trailer for the new Pokemon etc.
It'll be whatever nintendo wants it to be. Otherwise we are just gonna spend the rest of the thread arguing back and forth over what consists of a sequel
I expect it to be just as new as the next Call of Duty or Assassin's Creed is. I.e. running on the same engine but clearly being a new video game.
I mean, it's probably going to be based on older titles so the physics will probably be similar but 4's physics changed per patch.
Yeah they look different (which I stated and mentioned was obvious and gave reasons why), but game play wise? They are very close. Wayyyyyyy closer than Brawl and Melee. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV3uGVyATso Dash dancing, edge hogging, decent hit stun for combos, and l cancelling (z cancelling on 64). I dunno maybe you haven't really played these games very often, but while they are different, it isn't some huge departure and it's more of a refinement than anything. Also again, we don't even know what the new game looks like, what modes it has, or how it plays so you saying it seems like a deluxe version and sourcing these things means that you literally have no evidence considering these are details only Nintendo knows at the moment. Meanwhile the evidence we actually do have suggests nothing of the sort. The most important thing I've gathered from this is you aren't really reading what I type so I'm not going to waste more time here.
Yes, I'd call that an enhanced port or DX version. The only way these games differentiate themselves other than the roster is through the physics engine. If Brawl had the same roster as melee but the different physics, is it a port still?
I meant more of a jump from Melee to Brawl or Brawl to Smash 4.
So Majora's Mask is a port of Ocarina of Time?
This is incredible logic.
Yup, people are missing this.
And even if it started out as a port, they would've had to decide on that change so early in it's development cycle that it's inconsequential.
So Smash 4 DLC ended in February 2016 after the release of Corrin and Bayonetta. That would have given Sakurai around 2.5 years to make the Switch version. That seems pretty reasonable so long as he retained the same development team at Bandai Namco and they were able to use the existing game engine and assets from the Wii U version. I'm fully onboard the sequel train and this not being a Deluxe version.
I also have a feeling now that Sakurai "knew" he was going into the sequel before DLC ended, given that the character poll was definitely for more than just Bayonetta.
I also have a feeling now that Sakurai "knew" he was going into the sequel before DLC ended, given that the character poll was definitely for more than just Bayonetta.
I want a new final Smash for Mario. Hear me out.
Get a Smash Ball. You press B, and Cappy's eyes appear on Mario's hat. Now he has one shot to throw him, with the potential to miss. If you connect with another player though, Mario gets sucked into that character's body, using the same animation as Odyssey. (Visually, in mario's place, a small flag appears. It is strictly for animation purposes.)
Once Mario has captured an opponent (they, of course, have cappy on their head, blue eyes, and Mario's mustache), he has free reign to do what he wants with them for 30 seconds. He can use literally any of their abilities to fight other opponents, if he chooses. He can also choose to jump off a ledge.
If the character Mario is controlling dies, or the 30 second limit is up, Cappy flies back to the flagpole, and swings around it, while Mario poofs back into place, using the same animations as fast-travel in Odyssey.
This sounds absolutely too perfect to me, and suits Mario a hell of a lot more than firing a giant fireball.
Get a Smash Ball. You press B, and Cappy's eyes appear on Mario's hat. Now he has one shot to throw him, with the potential to miss. If you connect with another player though, Mario gets sucked into that character's body, using the same animation as Odyssey. (Visually, in mario's place, a small flag appears. It is strictly for animation purposes.)
Once Mario has captured an opponent (they, of course, have cappy on their head, blue eyes, and Mario's mustache), he has free reign to do what he wants with them for 30 seconds. He can use literally any of their abilities to fight other opponents, if he chooses. He can also choose to jump off a ledge.
If the character Mario is controlling dies, or the 30 second limit is up, Cappy flies back to the flagpole, and swings around it, while Mario poofs back into place, using the same animations as fast-travel in Odyssey.
This sounds absolutely too perfect to me, and suits Mario a hell of a lot more than firing a giant fireball.
That's some nice logic you've got there yourself. I meant in terms of fighting games.
What...would that even look like? The jump from Melee to Brawl was because of the casualization of Brawl while Smash 4 was a push towards competitiveness. The engine probably isn't going to be as drastic as the other entries anyways.
What's more likely to get a rep Xenoblade X or Xenoblade 2?
Why do you think there's "no way" the other are coming back? Even Bayonetta who has a new game exclusive to Nintendo?
Why do you think there's "no way" the other are coming back? Even Bayonetta who has a new game exclusive to Nintendo?
But it did feel just like a Smash 4 character reveal. It was just missing the character title card after the logo reveal.
Not really. The other ones were more pompous and silly while this one goes straight into dramatic.
Then specifiy your arbitrary logic at least.
Doesn't make it any less bogus, though.
Could be neat though. I love the idea of flying over Hyrule field with Guardians roaming around, aiming their lasers at you. Sounds fun.
Did anyone else think the teaser was going to be a Splatoon Battle Royale mode before it switched? 'Cause I honestly did for a few seconds, lol.
"What is this? They already showed Splatoon 2 stuff. A new game? With two Inklings running around alone fighting each other. No way...is Nintendo going after that PUBG/Fortnite money?"
Wouldn't be too crazy anyhow. And Splatoon would obviously be the franchise to do it with.
"What is this? They already showed Splatoon 2 stuff. A new game? With two Inklings running around alone fighting each other. No way...is Nintendo going after that PUBG/Fortnite money?"
Wouldn't be too crazy anyhow. And Splatoon would obviously be the franchise to do it with.
What would be the difference between a DX port and a new game for you then?
If it's really a full sequel I'll be very impressed by the turnaround between 4 and this. Even if it was just Smash 4 with some new characters I would still be down.
Kind of makes me wonder, though. Could they release a Smash game light on content, then fill it out over the course of a year like they've done with ARMS and Splatoon? Smash 4 had paid DLC, but I could see Nintendo trying the free support approach as well... especially if they're hustling just to get the game released for the holidays.
Kind of makes me wonder, though. Could they release a Smash game light on content, then fill it out over the course of a year like they've done with ARMS and Splatoon? Smash 4 had paid DLC, but I could see Nintendo trying the free support approach as well... especially if they're hustling just to get the game released for the holidays.
Top of my wishlist:
No 8-player mode
I'm all for wacky craziness but out of hundreds of 5+ player matches I played, I don't think I knew what was going on in a single one. It's an unreadable mess and you may as well let the AI play since you don't have any real control of anything that's happening.
"But why cut out a feature you don't like, just don't use it!"
Well, because SSBU was built around 8 player mode, where the "Classic" mode was a mess, among other things.
Second on my wishlist:
Bring back match scoring from SSB64/Melee.
Third on my wishlist:
Give every stage a Battlefield variant in addition to a Final Destination variant.
No 8-player mode
I'm all for wacky craziness but out of hundreds of 5+ player matches I played, I don't think I knew what was going on in a single one. It's an unreadable mess and you may as well let the AI play since you don't have any real control of anything that's happening.
"But why cut out a feature you don't like, just don't use it!"
Well, because SSBU was built around 8 player mode, where the "Classic" mode was a mess, among other things.
Second on my wishlist:
Bring back match scoring from SSB64/Melee.
Third on my wishlist:
Give every stage a Battlefield variant in addition to a Final Destination variant.
I would think 2, but Smash has a distinct lack of giant robots so X could easily get a spot.
33% Elma
33% Rex with just Pyra
33% Rex with Pyra, Mythra,
and Nia
Just give Rex the ability to switch between the two with Down-B.
I think it's most likely a new game, the title card at the end seemed so basic and it didn't say something like "Super Smash Bros. Deluxe" which would indicate it was a port.
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