Super Smash Bros. announced for Nintendo Switch (2018, Inklings confirmed, Link has BOTW design)

Which character is most likely to appear in the next game?


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Nov 16, 2017
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What would be the difference between a DX port and a new game for you then?
So, let's get this through.

The game has completely new music, completely new menus, characters have been added and substracted while being given new or altered movesets, completely different modes, online system and stages plus upgraded SSB4 graphics. The game is basically completely unrecognizable apart from the fact it has the same physics engine and a similar artstyle.

That's still a port?
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The difference between a port and a new game would be a new physics engine. If the keep the smash 4 engine then its a port, if not its a new game.
And what if they tweak the engine?

New characters, stages, items, costumes, and music, along with a tweaked engine, would constitute Smash 5 in my opinion.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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I'm in the camp of "more than a port, less than a from-scratch game." I think it's going to have more new content than just a couple of characters and it will be considered the next mainline game. Too much time has been spent on it to be just a port, I think.

Also, I feel like the reveal would've been different for a port of Smash 4. Like, they would've opened with Mario and Link and co. and then had the Inklings crash the party as a surprise near the end of the trailer.
 

remz

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They would be foolish to throw the engine away and start again ala melee/brawl etc. but i hope it's as new as can be other than that

Bayo has gotta be in it she's practically first party atm
 

Neoxon

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I wonder if the Nintendo overlords are pushing for Smash 5 6 to unite the Wii U & Melee communities, especially with Nintendo Versus already pushing Smash 6 on Twitter (quickly throwing out ARMS, Splatoon 2, & Pokkén). That'd probably be the way to defeat Street Fighter V & Dragon Ball FighterZ within the FGC.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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People still think this is a port?
Well the trailer was nothing like the announcement trailers of past games. It was like one of the newcomer trailers from 4 and the Direct was filled to the brim with ports and remakes. Until they flat out say it's a new game I'm going to assume it's a port.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm in the camp of "more than a port, less than a from-scratch game." I think it's going to have more new content than just a couple of characters and it will be considered the next mainline game. Too much time has been spent on it to be just a port, I think.

Also, I feel like the reveal would've been different for a port of Smash 4. Like, they would've opened with Mario and Link and co. and then had the Inklings crash the party as a surprise near the end of the trailer.
Yea, a port would have had a different structure. It likely would have started with something like Mewtwo vs Greninja, to show off it having all DLC, and then move onto the new comer.
 
Jan 3, 2018
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They would be foolish to throw the engine away and start again ala melee/brawl etc. but i hope it's as new as can be other than that

Bayo has gotta be in it she's practically first party atm
I'm holding out hope that they're going to pull a Project M with this and give us Melee's airdodging mechanics. Mostly cause of that comparison shot between the Melee and Smash Switch logos someone made upthread.

And yeah I think Bayo is guaranteed along with Sonic and Pac-Man
 
Oct 25, 2017
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People still think this is a port?
People have been thinking it would be a port for months and we didn't get any new information today, other than Link having a BOTW design

I never have thought it would be a port though, that just seems completely ridiculous to me
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think Fire Emblem is getting any new characters in this game. The newcomer choice would've been Corrin easily had (s)he not been added as DLC right after Fates released in Japan and as it released overseas.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Ah man, people are already going on with that "who are they going to cut" garbage?

They should cut FE characters to make room for the new ones



Haha
*Sakurai walks on stage*

"There are thirty new characters in the latest Smash Bros., and they're all from the first five Fire Emblem games."

*Sakurai walks off stage*
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I hope they make online with anybody more robust. I never played it because it was time only which was always ridiculous. Everybody plays stock matches.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yea, a port would have had a different structure. It likely would have started with something like Mewtwo vs Greninja, to show off it having all DLC, and then move onto the new comer.

Yeah, and the way they're teasing it makes it sound like a sequel. It's a sequel guys, calm down, and stop arguing if whether it's more port than sequel until we actually see footage of the game.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Disappointed nobody dug my Mario idea, but I guess it’s because we’re currently in the “port or sequel” phase. Gonna have to watch this thread carefully for the swift and short change into the “let’s make fun ideas” phase before it changes into the “is Ridley in it?” phase.
 
Nov 27, 2017
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If it’s not a port of the Wii U version there’s no way this will come out in 2018
It’d be the perfect game to get me to pay for Nintendo’s online story so yeah if they are rushing it, this may get messy
 
Oct 25, 2017
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The difference between a port and a new game would be a new physics engine. If the keep the smash 4 engine then its a port, if not its a new game.
That is just insanity. Almost no sequels ever use new engines. 90% of the sequels being made today are ports by your definition.
 
Feb 27, 2018
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So, let's get this through.

The game has completely new music, completely new menus, characters have been added and substracted while being given new or altered movesets, completely different modes, online system and stages plus upgraded SSB4 graphics. The game is basically completely unrecognizable apart from the fact it has the same physics engine and a similar artstyle.

That's still a port?
Well if you didn't buy the Mario Kart 8 DLC, MK8DX would have new music, new menus, new characters, a new battle mode, new race tracks. If you did buy the DLC it would still have new music, a new menu, a new battle mode, and new characters.
And what if they tweak the engine?

New characters, stages, items, costumes, and music, along with a tweaked engine, would constitute Smash 5 in my opinion.
I agree.
Mortal Kombat, unless you think there's a Mario Kart 9 and X I'm not aware of.
I was sort of confused haha, I haven't played Mortal Kombat.

That is just insanity. Almost no sequels ever use new engines. 90% of the sequels being made today are ports by your definition.
Maybe engine isn't the right word, but I mean how Melee and Brawl play completely differently.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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this is gonna be Splatoon 1 vs Splatoon 2 all over again over what constitutes a sequel. pretty much all the non-single player content is back in Splatoon 2 with some mechanical/design tweaks, but it's still called a sequel. this Smash is probably gonna be the same way unless they decide to move engines
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I think it's a new game, mostly because Hal is now involved, and there's no numbers on the site or trailer that indicate anything with 2014 (Wii U/3DS's launch). Plus as other people have said, these games don't take six years to make as others have said, it's only about two to three, the only reason there was such a gap between Melee, Brawl, and Wii U/3DS is that the teams involved had other projects going on like Kirby games or Kid Icarus.

I do, however, think this is going to follow a Brawl to Wii U/3DS format in terms of changes. That being, a lot of the groundwork is pretty much there, and that they'll just go off of that. An example being some characters like King Dedede and Fox despite having some changes in detail, look pretty much very similarly between their Brawl and Wii U/3DS counterparts.

I'm so excited to be on another Smash hype train. I think the most interesting thing this time around for me is who the newcomers might be. I say this because since the release of Smash Wii U/3DS, Nintendo hasn't actually made any really big new characters outside of those in Fire Emblem and ARMS. Right now my predictions are only a fighter from ARMS and one of the co-protagonists from Fire Emblem Echoes, Alm or Celica.

I feel like we'll definitely be seeing a lot of returning characters, and I think Wolf and Ice Climbers are going to make a comeback as well, as for the rest of the lineup, this is probably the first Smash where I think it could be anyone's game.
 

Tsukinopio

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I just want Dixie, or hell, any new DK rep.
It'll be K. Rool. I thought he was a long shot for Smash 4, but the fact that they went out of their way to give him a Mii costume—based on his old design, no less—means they've acknowledged his popularity. Dixie would be nice too, but I'll take what I can get at this point.
 
Jan 3, 2018
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So it's gonna be built on top of Smash 4.

Like a 4.5.

Like what Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 is to Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
Like what
Overlord II
Sonic 2
Splatoon 2
Majora's Mask

and almost every other sequel in video game history is to the previous game in the series

jesus why do people only act this way with Nintendo games
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So what's the BoTW stage going to be like? Hyrule field or maybe on top of the flying divine beast? Maybe a small version of the great plateau?
I'm guessing we'll be getting New Donk City too.
Divine Beast Vah Naboris map where Thunderblight Ganon is a stage Hazard who kicks everyone's ass.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It'll be K. Rool. I thought he was a long shot for Smash 4, but the fact that they went out of their way to give him a Mii costume—based on his old design, no less—means they've acknowledged his popularity. Dixie would be nice too, but I'll take what I can get at this point.
In an ideal world we'd get both K. Rool and Dixie in order to make up for no DK newcomers in Smash 4.

And when we got one, it was clearly labeled as such.

It didn’t have zero footage and a placeholder title.
It was clearly labeled a couple months later when it was shown off at the Switch presentation. When it was first shown off they showed the new item system, some new characters, and a single track leaving people confused on whether it was a port or MK9.
 

Neoxon

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I think Sonic, Bayo, Megaman, Pacman and Ryu are here to stay. Nintendo has a really close relationship with Sega, Platinum, Bandai Namco and Capcpom.
If anything, I could see Mega Man & Ryu being updated to their MM11 & SFV (respectively) incarnations. Hell, throw in Hot Ryu as an alternate costume for Ryu.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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this is gonna be Splatoon 1 vs Splatoon 2 all over again over what constitutes a sequel. pretty much all the non-single player content is back in Splatoon 2 with some mechanical/design tweaks, but it's still called a sequel. this Smash is probably gonna be the same way unless they decide to move engines
I mean they basically copied Brawl's engine into Smash 4 and retooled it plus had a bunch of carryover material (at one point some demo footage of Smash 4 still showed Diddy Kong having his Brawl portrait) so I don't think even that game had an engine that was built from scratch. It doesn't need to be to be a sequel.
 
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