Discussion in 'Video Games' started by Phire Phox, Mar 8, 2018.
The game has completely new music, completely new menus, characters have been added and substracted while being given new or altered movesets, completely different modes, online system and stages plus upgraded SSB4 graphics. The game is basically completely unrecognizable apart from the fact it has the same physics engine and a similar artstyle.
That's still a port?
New characters, stages, items, costumes, and music, along with a tweaked engine, would constitute Smash 5 in my opinion.
I'm in the camp of "more than a port, less than a from-scratch game." I think it's going to have more new content than just a couple of characters and it will be considered the next mainline game. Too much time has been spent on it to be just a port, I think.
Also, I feel like the reveal would've been different for a port of Smash 4. Like, they would've opened with Mario and Link and co. and then had the Inklings crash the party as a surprise near the end of the trailer.
They would be foolish to throw the engine away and start again ala melee/brawl etc. but i hope it's as new as can be other than that
Bayo has gotta be in it she's practically first party atm
People still think this is a port?
This is probably a similar situation. Some reused assets but enough new content for Nintendo to call it a sequel.
I wonder if the Nintendo overlords are pushing for Smash 5 6 to unite the Wii U & Melee communities, especially with Nintendo Versus already pushing Smash 6 on Twitter (quickly throwing out ARMS, Splatoon 2, & Pokkén). That'd probably be the way to defeat Street Fighter V & Dragon Ball FighterZ within the FGC.
And yeah I think Bayo is guaranteed along with Sonic and Pac-Man
I never have thought it would be a port though, that just seems completely ridiculous to me
We have never had a smash port before and there is absolutely no reason to think we will start now.
In some ways it feels like this clip is the official canonization of Splatoon as a major Nintendo franchise... the Inklings stand before the awesome power of Nintendo's assembled superstars and are deemed worthy.
I don't think Fire Emblem is getting any new characters in this game. The newcomer choice would've been Corrin easily had (s)he not been added as DLC right after Fates released in Japan and as it released overseas.
"There are thirty new characters in the latest Smash Bros., and they're all from the first five Fire Emblem games."
*Sakurai walks off stage*
I hope they make online with anybody more robust. I never played it because it was time only which was always ridiculous. Everybody plays stock matches.
Yeah, and the way they're teasing it makes it sound like a sequel. It's a sequel guys, calm down, and stop arguing if whether it's more port than sequel until we actually see footage of the game.
This been posted yet? A video of the crowd reaction from the Nintendo NY Store.
Like a 4.5.
Like what Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 is to Marvel vs. Capcom 3.
Disappointed nobody dug my Mario idea, but I guess it’s because we’re currently in the “port or sequel” phase. Gonna have to watch this thread carefully for the swift and short change into the “let’s make fun ideas” phase before it changes into the “is Ridley in it?” phase.
If it’s not a port of the Wii U version there’s no way this will come out in 2018
It’d be the perfect game to get me to pay for Nintendo’s online story so yeah if they are rushing it, this may get messy
this is gonna be Splatoon 1 vs Splatoon 2 all over again over what constitutes a sequel. pretty much all the non-single player content is back in Splatoon 2 with some mechanical/design tweaks, but it's still called a sequel. this Smash is probably gonna be the same way unless they decide to move engines
I sounds like a sequel. It could just use a lot of assets from Smash 4.
I think it's a new game, mostly because Hal is now involved, and there's no numbers on the site or trailer that indicate anything with 2014 (Wii U/3DS's launch). Plus as other people have said, these games don't take six years to make as others have said, it's only about two to three, the only reason there was such a gap between Melee, Brawl, and Wii U/3DS is that the teams involved had other projects going on like Kirby games or Kid Icarus.
I do, however, think this is going to follow a Brawl to Wii U/3DS format in terms of changes. That being, a lot of the groundwork is pretty much there, and that they'll just go off of that. An example being some characters like King Dedede and Fox despite having some changes in detail, look pretty much very similarly between their Brawl and Wii U/3DS counterparts.
I'm so excited to be on another Smash hype train. I think the most interesting thing this time around for me is who the newcomers might be. I say this because since the release of Smash Wii U/3DS, Nintendo hasn't actually made any really big new characters outside of those in Fire Emblem and ARMS. Right now my predictions are only a fighter from ARMS and one of the co-protagonists from Fire Emblem Echoes, Alm or Celica.
I feel like we'll definitely be seeing a lot of returning characters, and I think Wolf and Ice Climbers are going to make a comeback as well, as for the rest of the lineup, this is probably the first Smash where I think it could be anyone's game.
It didn’t have zero footage and a placeholder title.
and almost every other sequel in video game history is to the previous game in the series
jesus why do people only act this way with Nintendo games
I'm sad that Sakurai is still non-stop working on SSB, though. Wanted him to work on something different.