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What character's reveal are you expecting to see at E3?


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Mekanos

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So how would people feel if the Fighters Pass ended up looking like this, and which two of the last four characters would you prefer or consider most likely?


Finally put together my own Fighters Pass prediction thing:

If it's not animating for you, the last two slots alternate between Hayabusa/Jill and Jibanyan/Heihachi. The slots aren't meant to be in a specific order or anything; these are just the top 6 third-party characters I'd expect to see as the next 4 DLC fighters in the Fighters Pass.

1. Hero (Dragon Quest)
2. Banjo & Kazooie
3-4. [any 2 of the following 4:]
- Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden)​
- Jibanyan (Yo-kai Watch)​
- Jill (Resident Evil)​
- Heihachi (Tekken)​

I only included third-party characters because I have no idea what to expect for first-party characters, since none seem particularly likely to me at this point.

Also, I put Jill as the potential Resident Evil rep here (mostly because she's the character everyone seems to be gravitating towards), but is there a good reason to expect her over Chris? Both are protagonists of the first game (is one more of a "main" character than the other, though? I honestly don't know), but it looks like Chris is the protagonist of the two best-selling games in the franchise (Resident Evil 5 and 6) rather than Jill, so I could see that counting for something. Like, I'd prefer Jill if only for the sake of diversity (I don't really care about any Resident Evil characters at all, so the choice doesn't matter much to me), but is there a reason besides that that makes people think Jill would be more likely than Chris?
 

ned_ballad

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Doctor Mario was basically playable in Odyssey, because Doc is just mario in a costume and the Doc costume in Odyssey is 1:1 with his normal design. Also Doctor Mario games are their own little spin off genre and Doc is the main character of those.

Daisy was in a game boy Mario platformer and also was playable in Mario Run

Waluigi doesn't even have perfect attendance in Mario Kart (which Daisy has).
 

yuoke

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So how would people feel if the Fighters Pass ended up looking like this, and which two of the last four characters would you prefer or consider most likely?





Also, I put Jill as the potential Resident Evil rep here (mostly because she's the character everyone seems to be gravitating towards), but is there a good reason to expect her over Chris? Both are protagonists of the first game (is one more of a "main" character than the other, though? I honestly don't know), but it looks like Chris is the protagonist of the two best-selling games in the franchise (Resident Evil 5 and 6) rather than Jill, so I could see that counting for something. Like, I'd prefer Jill if only for the sake of diversity (I don't really care about any Resident Evil characters at all, so the choice doesn't matter much to me), but is there a reason besides that that makes people think Jill would be more likely than Chris?
Jibanyan just would be a big no. From what I know, the series basically dropped off in japan, and never really could make it in the west at all. DQ at least has a huge, big history in japan.
 

Mekanos

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Sir, as a K. Rool fan, you should know better than to underestimate the Kong fandom.
Dude, my username is from DKC3. It’s straight facts. Dixie is a character most people would be fine with but would not exactly hype up the masses. I don’t even really want Waluigi but I can see the writing on the wall on that one.
 

Ryce

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Waluigi's always been garbage, but that Twitter harassment campaign against Sakurai actively made me hate the prospect of him being in Smash.
 

TMaakkonen

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Erdrick is about the same as Steve for me.

Oh yeah, Steve from Minecraft, its big, but I don’t really care about him even if I respect his importance

Oh yeah, Erdrick from Dragon Quest, its big in Japan, but I don’t really care about him even if I respect his importance.
 

TheDinoman

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Doctor Mario was basically playable in Odyssey, because Doc is just mario in a costume and the Doc costume in Odyssey is 1:1 with his normal design. Also Doctor Mario games are their own little spin off genre and Doc is the main character of those.
To be fair, Doctor Mario was included in Melee years before Odyssey was a thing.

The second statement is a valid point, though in the long run, Doc still only got into Melee because he was an easy clone to create due to literally just being Mario in a lab coat, lol.
 

Gold Arsene

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So how would people feel if the Fighters Pass ended up looking like this, and which two of the last four characters would you prefer or consider most likely?





Also, I put Jill as the potential Resident Evil rep here (mostly because she's the character everyone seems to be gravitating towards), but is there a good reason to expect her over Chris? Both are protagonists of the first game (is one more of a "main" character than the other, though? I honestly don't know), but it looks like Chris is the protagonist of the two best-selling games in the franchise (Resident Evil 5 and 6) rather than Jill, so I could see that counting for something. Like, I'd prefer Jill if only for the sake of diversity (I don't really care about any Resident Evil characters at all, so the choice doesn't matter much to me), but is there a reason besides that that makes people think Jill would be more likely than Chris?
Pretty meh.

I'm excited for Erdrick no, but everything after that doesn't interest me. Ryu would be kind of cool but that's it.
 

ned_ballad

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To be fair, Doctor Mario was included in Melee years before Odyssey was a thing.

The second statement is a valid point, though in the long run, Doc still only got into Melee because he was an easy clone to create due to literally just being Mario in a lab coat, lol.
Also Sakurai loved Doc's music and wanted a chance to include it

Had My Music been a thing, we might not have even gotten Doc.
 
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One benefit of potentially Master Chief being DLC is i can swap colours and pretend i am playing Red vs Blue characters in a fighting game
 

Apopheniac

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It wouldn't be a Joker level megaton but I feel like Rex would still get a strong reaction just because most everyone is convinced he has no chance.
there's people out there still clinging to hope, so I wouldn't say everyone.

now, Foreman Spike? There's a character that depresses fans too much to even talk about, because his chances are less than 0. Imagine the outpouring of support when he's front and center at E3
 

Neoxon

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So how would people feel if the Fighters Pass ended up looking like this, and which two of the last four characters would you prefer or consider most likely?





Also, I put Jill as the potential Resident Evil rep here (mostly because she's the character everyone seems to be gravitating towards), but is there a good reason to expect her over Chris? Both are protagonists of the first game (is one more of a "main" character than the other, though? I honestly don't know), but it looks like Chris is the protagonist of the two best-selling games in the franchise (Resident Evil 5 and 6) rather than Jill, so I could see that counting for something. Like, I'd prefer Jill if only for the sake of diversity (I don't really care about any Resident Evil characters at all, so the choice doesn't matter much to me), but is there a reason besides that that makes people think Jill would be more likely than Chris?
Isn’t “Hero” a bit too generic for Erdrick’s name in Smash?
 

Lady Bow

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Also, I put Jill as the potential Resident Evil rep here (mostly because she's the character everyone seems to be gravitating towards), but is there a good reason to expect her over Chris? Both are protagonists of the first game (is one more of a "main" character than the other, though? I honestly don't know), but it looks like Chris is the protagonist of the two best-selling games in the franchise (Resident Evil 5 and 6) rather than Jill, so I could see that counting for something. Like, I'd prefer Jill if only for the sake of diversity (I don't really care about any Resident Evil characters at all, so the choice doesn't matter much to me), but is there a reason besides that that makes people think Jill would be more likely than Chris?
I feel like Sakurai would gravitate more towards the beginning of the Resident Evil series, and that narrows it down to Chris and Jill. Jill always seemed more popular than Chris from what I've seen and people are yearning for more female representation.
 

TMaakkonen

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So here is a ehh… remaining popular 1st Party character wave?

Rex, Springman, Dixie, Bandana Dee & Waluigi.

Garbage, ok or decent?
 

Gartooth

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Problem is, none of those games are the mainline platformers, which is what really matters for Mario characters that aren't the throwaway clones like Doc and Daisy.
I mean I buy that that's why Sakurai himself puts Waluigi low on the totem pole, but him being wildly popular would help bring him up in the future.

I just think getting Waluigi to work in Smash is relatively small potatoes compared to some of the other characters which I think he would've needed to think harder on. (Ex: Characters with perceived design/technical issues, ones without a perceived future) He just seems like the easiest gimme to get people on the internet talking about and onboard with Smash that he has to happen at some point.
 

Mekanos

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Dee fanbase will only grow over the years as more Kirby games are released and he’s inevitably in them. With Sakurai’s track record though I half expect Marx before him.
 

DrArchon

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Now that we have Piranha Plant as our random mook rep, I see no reason for Bandanna Dee other than "But we gotta have a Kirby character!" which is always my least favorite reason for getting a character in Smash.
 

Mekanos

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Now that we have Piranha Plant as our random mook rep, I see no reason for Bandanna Dee other than "But we gotta have a Kirby character!" which is always my least favorite reason for getting a character in Smash.
Except Dee is an established character. That’s like saying Captain Toad is a mook.
 

Hailinel

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Dude, my username is from DKC3. It’s straight facts. Dixie is a character most people would be fine with but would not exactly hype up the masses. I don’t even really want Waluigi but I can see the writing on the wall on that one.
Waluigi is wanted by shitposting memers and assholes that harass Sakurai on social media with Nazi bullshit. That's not a fanbase worth catering to when there are other, better characters that aren't known for mostly being Wario's doubles partner in tennis.
 

ned_ballad

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Characters who

1. Have appeared in more than 1 Mario Kart
2. Have had perfect attendance since appearing (for the purposes of this list, Shy Guy counts for DS)
3. Bolded are playable in Smash
4. I'm not counting the Namco arcade games

SNES
- Mario
- Peach
- Bowser

- Toad
- Yoshi

64
- Wario
- DK


Double Dash
- Daisy

Wii
- Rosalina
- Mii


7
- Metal Mario
- Lakitu

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Double Dash
- Not Waluigi

Too bad for Waluigi. Can't be in an exclusive club featuring Smash Bros fighters and the all star Mario character, Lakitu. Next time don't have your spot taken by a random NPC from Mario Galaxy.
 

r_n

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Dee fanbase will only grow over the years as more Kirby games are released and he’s inevitably in them. With Sakurai’s track record though I half expect Marx before him.
using the power of sakurai bias, Bandanna Waddle Dee is actually a sakurai character!


which also means that when he gets in he will have a moveset based entirely around megaton punch. the final smash will pull out a spear where he does a sick combo striking in the immediate area around him
 

Mekanos

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Waluigi is wanted by shitposting memers and assholes that harass Sakurai on social media with Nazi bullshit. That's not a fanbase worth catering to when there are other, better characters that aren't known for mostly being Wario's doubles partner in tennis.
There was nothing in my post about the quality of the character or his fanbase, even if the Waluigi one is especially toxic, it’s one that Nintendo has actually commented on.
 
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