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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 2 | Challengers Approaching!
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There's been a major content release roughly every two months since launch, so we'll probably see the third character around August, the fourth character around October, and the fifth character around December, barring any delays covered by the extra two months of wiggle room.
TFW you're going to have to wait until like August to see a new post-Joker Smash character that hasn't been leaked yet
bold of you to assume Challenger #3 won't be leakedTFW you're going to have to wait until August to see a new post-Joker Smash character that hasn't been leaked yet
What if #3 is leaked?TFW you're going to have to wait until like August to see a new post-Joker Smash character that hasn't been leaked yet
Talking about this tweet?
I don't think anyone was saying that two characters would be released at the same time at E3. Think the consensus was that Erdrick might be potentially shadow dropped at E3 (releasing one character) while the 3rd character would be teased at the end. (which would most likely be released in August/September).
Honestly at this point, I'd be kinda surprised if Nintendo made another datamine fuckup that hints at more characters ahead of time. We didn't get anything new in the datamine for the last big update, so I would think they'd be trying to cover their tracks better.
Outside of datamines, the only Smash DLC leaks we've gotten are from Tansut, who seemingly has a source within Square-Enix that knows about Smash DLC. So, unless there's another Square character coming out that he'd like to talk about...
We need to hear more about Star Ocean. They announced a Switch version of Star Ocean and we haven't even talked about Smash implications, lol.
Obviously lol.
People can lobbed behind any video game character they like.
Bottom tier picks in pretty much every regard.
Nah this isn't bait. I still remember when Jack Frost fans smugly insinuated that it had a much higher chance of making into Smash than Joker due to (insert boring reasons)
Ffs, it's not bait
Guess i'll have to dig up the receipts:
Guess i'll have to dig up the receipts:
I meant only 1 reveal and release. My bad, not that 2 characters would get released.
I'm thinking they'll do the 2 final characters together. As in reveal one early and then have a Direct for the last one, discussing both in great detail.
"Bandana Dee isn't Toad, he's Luigi. At least in newer games. "
For some reason, I guessed that ned_ballad said this, and a quick Google search shows that, yes, he said that.
For some reason, I guessed that ned_ballad said this, and a quick Google search shows that, yes, he said that.
Either way, I think most of us expect all third-party characters at this point.Ffs, it's not bait
Guess i'll have to dig up the receipts:
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I'm pretty sure that the last reveal will be at The Game Awards.
I think Joker's reveal at VGAs was a one time thing to get people excited for the Fighter Pass early on.
Right now, I'm thinking there will be one last Smash Direct in December, much like the one we got for Smash 4 back in December 2015, that reveals the final character(s).
No way. The last reveal has to be in a presentation. They're going to want to discusss that character in great detail right away. In my opinion.
I was thinking..
- E3 for "Brave"
- August/EVO for Fighter #3
- September Direct for Fighter #4
- Released in October or November
- Game Awards for Fighter #5
- Released in January or February w/ a presentation prior
Even if I didn't like Joker, I just can't fathom thinking a character like Jack Frost would somehow be both a preferable & realistic choice over Joker (who brings so much more to the table)
I think people still have this ultra rigid, super simplistic view of what makes a character Smash Bros character eligible (even though Sakurai has made it plainly clear). The Source Gaming Rate the character chances were pretty emblematic of that mindset.
Ultimately, character additions come down to what they bring to the table. Hype cycles are everything now; gone are the days where characters can just get by being "regular joes." The Smash Team isn't going to waste resources on nobodies anymore, not when the payout for doing so is completely disproportionate to the amount of effort they put into creating them.
That and Sakurai's own preference goes a long way.
So yeah to reiterate, I was 100% serious about my softball comment.
I think people still have this ultra rigid, super simplistic view of what makes a character Smash Bros character eligible (even though Sakurai has made it plainly clear). The Source Gaming Rate the character chances were pretty emblematic of that mindset.
Ultimately, character additions come down to what they bring to the table. Hype cycles are everything now; gone are the days where characters can just get by being "regular joes." The Smash Team isn't going to waste resources on nobodies anymore, not when the payout for doing so is completely disproportionate to the amount of effort they put into creating them.
That and Sakurai's own preference goes a long way.
So yeah to reiterate, I was 100% serious about my softball comment.
That's that thing. They made a big deal about the final reveal.
Kinda of a waste for it to be reveal 2 months prior.
Joker's Fantastic
Master Chief is Dope
Slime is Crackin
Busby is Eugh
Toad and Bandana Dee or whoever would be fine base game choices but terrible DLC picks. Like, in a lineup with Cloud, Ryu, Bayonetta, Erdrick... you're putting a second-string Kirby character? Like, Corrin was already relatively weak, but at least he/she is a lead character of a brand new game in a long-running series.
But at the same time, that talk was before we had a good idea of what their DLC plans were. Now the discussion has gravitated towards third party characters, with the likely next character being Dragon Quest (unless you consider it a softball pick).
Context is important for that one, as Joker got (and still gets) flack for the issues Persona 5 has.
I mean, anyone still saying that jack frost (or any side character) should go and ask any p5 fan if they would want to play as the blue imp over joker. I'll guarantee u'll get crickets from them.
BWB and toad may be different due to the nature of their series but thats another discussion altogether.
So anyway is it just me or does smash 4 dlc's cycle feels more exciting during the months?
I know we got more in-dept content this time, but lets take a look at it -
Smash 4 -
- mewtwo, lucas, roy, ryu, cloud, corrin, bayo
- suzuka castle, midgar, umbra tower
- couple of extra tracks (6 i think)
- mii costumes
Ultimate -
- 5 brand new characters (joker is one of them)
- 5 new stages
- multiple tracks + remixes
- mii costumes (shouldnt be too much of a difference)
Now i know that theres definitely substantially more content, but somehow 5 characters vs the 4 characters + 4 clones that we got didnt feel as fun as before. I know that characters arent the only factor, but it feels....emptier to me.
We have 1 character more in Ultimate at this time then we had with Smash 4.
Before E3 only Mewtwo was released and Lucas was revealed. We had to wait until E3 for Lucas.
I wouldn't judge the cycle until it's over. It's easy to forget how slow Smash 4 DLC actually was when it's in the past.
Who were the 4 clones? Lucas & Roy are the only two semi-clones.
I want Jack Frost because he's cute and he's a demon. Other SMT fans wanted him because they didn't want Persona to take priority. I mean, I didn't want SMT to get the shaft either. A character choice is more than just a character, but also a stage, music, and a series' presence.
Ironically, some of my friends thought Joker was the more boring, predictable choice.
Ironically, some of my friends thought Joker was the more boring, predictable choice.
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Recency bias. Smash 4's DLC year felt as empty back when it was happening.
Maybe it's because Smash 3DS sold more due to people actually owning a 3DS.
Yea, same for me. No one else I seriously want and it finally seems complete. Smash 4 was just pure chaos and crazieness. Ballot randomly dropped on us and no set schedule. We pretty much have a handle on everything this time.
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