There aren't any strong belivable rumors out there right now. Some have popped up in the days since E3 (claiming to have gotten information correct), but we'll see how those turn out.
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 3 | Seeking Answers to the Un-Bear-able Quest-ions!
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The common thought is that the final DLC may or may not be from a fighting game and could be female (or even male!) from a company like Bamco/Capcom/Bethesda/other because some Mii costumes may or may not return with code that points to a character with a ponytail and that also comes with a companion. Also their background colours is not red, lilac or yellow.
Hope that narrowed things down for you.
That was so undiscript till the end and now you've got me thinking
Edit: dammit just saw your username
I don't know how we can have people claiming Monster Hunter is deconfirmed cause of Rathalos but who still believe spirits don't mean anything.
Good thing I'm on the winning team and thinks that anyone that's a spirit ain't happening this time around lol
ROFL
But seriously, those are all random ideas people have been pushing.
As someone who jokingly came up with the theory (hint: it was just another way to say Haruka is coming) the thing is pretty flawed.
On one hand it says the Bamco and Capcom costumes must come with a Bamco and Capcom rep much like the Sonic costumes came with a Sega rep, but on the other it accepts that other Sega costumes (the Virtua Fighter ones) can come with a non-Sega rep. At that point you may as well accept costumes can come whenever.
Every Smash theory is pretty much just based around huge assumptions that may or may not be true. The only garuntee in Smash speculation is that someone will be disapointed with the outcome.
Yeah, costume theory can crack really quickly, and it was fun to humor at first, but it's easily becoming the most boring theory to discuss (though, if Box Theory is anything to go by, that might actually be a point in favor of it).
We'll get Lloyd and Gil's costumes alongside Hero in 4.0, and i'll pretend to be shocked.
Yeah, I guess the direction I'm seeing this is that 3rd parties have never had content distributed evenly in Smash, and I don't see it happening in this DLC either.
For instance there was a lot of speculation we would see 2nd series from SEGA and Bamco after Ryu's reveal in Smash 4, but a Bamco newcomer didn't come and their costumes were released whenever.
Well, if we get Heihachi, I could see them re-releasing the VF outfits alongside him considering they're all fighting game characters.
They did a similar kind of thing when Ryu came out. Sakurai even made a big deal about how "3 top fighting games have now united in Super Smash Bros."
They did a similar kind of thing when Ryu came out. Sakurai even made a big deal about how "3 top fighting games have now united in Super Smash Bros."
But if you had to choose between Chun-Li & Morrigan, Chun-Li would be the stronger pick that would garner more hype.
As for Tracer, wasn't there a rumor for Overwatch on Switch 2 years ago? I feel like if it was gonna happen, it would have happened by now.
Aw man I'm already happy with the season pass for Banjo-Kazooie alone, but Doom Guy would be icing on the cake for me! If Sakurai and Nintendo worked to get Grant Kirkhope to remix Spiral Mountain, I hope they hook up Mick Gordon for some fresh DOOM tracks. Or might as well get music that's already in DOOM (2016) and Eternal.
The only one left is the Mii Costume Theory, but that could easily live or die depending on if the DQ Heroes bring the Geno & Chocobo costumes with them.
I will be really surprised if Nintendo allowed Bethesda guy to tease a Smash character like that. Instead I expect some port. Maybe a classic Doom port, huge bonus points if they take a look at source port community and construct a Doom Maker.
How would that be considered a "special surprise for Nintendo fans?" The first two games and their popular mod support have no history with Nintendo. Steretypical Nintendo fans wouldn't give a hoot about them to be honest.
Seems like a tease for Smash and/or Doom 64 appearing on a potential N64 Classic.
Stereotypical Nintendo fan is an interesting construct that seems to vary wildly, but I don't remember stumbling upon a definition which would include both shunning enhanced ports of classic games from other platforms and enjoying representatives of franchises of such classic games entering the Nintendo crossover. I'd rather expect the inverse of both.
Doom 64 stuff is a possibility, of course.
I wouldn't hate some new Mii classes. A magic-based Mii(Magician/Sorcerer), a "funny" or "joke" Mii (Clown) and another range-based Mii like an Archer.
Miitopia has no shortage of Mii classes to choose from for inspiration.
As far as Magic based fighters, I would love Kamek with a semi-clone in Ashley
I'm as fast as a Soul Fist spamming, but there you go :p
I'm just glad they didn't go with realistic bear sounds... I still want proper voices for DK, Diddy and Bowser :<
My idea is that Frisk would summon their friends for their Specials/Smashes; their normals/tilts would be them attacking with some of the lesser weapons in Undertale.
The friends they summon would be Toriel, Papyrus, Sans, Undyne, Alphys & Asgore. This way you could represent the game's themes of power in friendship/love. You could also represent each section of the game, since they're all centered around a specific character.
Dk and diddy I can get past, especially diddy. Bowser absolutely needs his voice. It's become iconic.
Female fighting game characters:
CAPCOM
Chun-Li
Morrigan
SNK
Mai Shiranui
Athena Asamiya
Nakoruru
Kula Diamond
KOEI TECMO
Kasumi
Ayane
I think any of these would be great. Chun-Li deserves it more than anyone, but Morrigan would be really cool and it would add another new series. Mai would be equally amazing, but she might be too sexual.
CAPCOM
Chun-Li
Morrigan
SNK
Mai Shiranui
Athena Asamiya
Nakoruru
Kula Diamond
KOEI TECMO
Kasumi
Ayane
I think any of these would be great. Chun-Li deserves it more than anyone, but Morrigan would be really cool and it would add another new series. Mai would be equally amazing, but she might be too sexual.
Bowser is the most off putting of them all, because all Mario characters got their proper voice clips (even if I'd argue that Mario and Luigi really needed to be re-recorded to reflect better they main series counterpart), and even Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings got to speak.
DK got an iconic voice too, imo.. his current voice actor has been voicing him since what? Jungle Beat in 2004? that's a long ass time.. For the consistence having Diddy and K. Rool (Paon games and Super Sluggers) having their current voices wouldn't hurt either.
--on side note; Pac-Man not having his death sound effect as a Star K.O. or Piranha Plant having its cry from Yoshi's Island is a crime.
My thought would be Morrigan or Kasumi.
Street Fighter already has so much representation it just doesn't feel like it would have the impact of a new series.
The thing is, Chun-Li is far and away more popular and well known than either of those two. She also is totally an icon, and the first major female gaming icon at that. She completely makes sense for this game even if there is already Street Fighter representation.
And on top of that, most of SF's representation in Smash is limited to SFII. While I wouldn't put money on Chun-Li just yet, there's enough of a gap that she could fill with music, spirits, & other content. For reference, Darkstalkers isn't even ranked on the Capcom Platinum Page.
That's how obscure it is. Yeah, Morrigan has near-perfect attendance in the Versus games. But to be frank, most of the successful Versus games were carried by the companies that Capcom crossed over with outside of CvS/SvC (again, I say this as a huge fan of the Versus games), thus allowing for Capcom to go more obscure with their picks. You don't really have the same luxury with DLC. With how dead Banjo-Kazooie is as an IP, at least they sold millions when they were active. Even Persona is selling millions.CyberNeon said:
I could see Dead or Alive having some impact overall, but Darkstalkers would have much of an impact. And even then, Chun-Li would eclipse both Morrigan & Kasumi combined (with the Potara Fusion multiplier).
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Street Fighter feels like one of the few series that can justify having multiple characters. Chun Li in particular is just so much more important to gaming than other female fighters like Kasumi, Morrigan and Nakoruru. It'd be really special to see her fight along side somebody like Samus. It's one of the reason I really want Super Smash Sisters. (So long as it's not a watered down fan-service title)
It also helps that Chun-Li is the only character besides Ryu to have perfect attendance across every Versus game. Likewise, when you think Street Fighter, you think of both Ryu & Chun-Li. It also helps that there's a treasure-trove of music from SFA, III, IV, & V to pull from that the base game outright ignored. Hell, the base game didn't even include Akuma's theme.
Again, I'm not saying that Chun-Li is a safe bet. But if this female fighting game character rumor has any merit, Chun-Li would be far & away the front-runner.
I mean, if it's a female fighting game character, she's the only realistic option that would sell well as DLC. Maybe Kasumi could move units, but the likes of Morrigan & Nakoruru (as much as I like them) were hella obscure even at their prime.
To be fair, Ken was an easy echo. Adding Chun-Li would have come at the cost of one of the unique characters that were either Day 1 or likely supposed to be Day 1 (Inkling, Ridley, Simon, King K. Rool, Isabelle, Incineroar, & Piranha Plant).
There are far, far more people who have at least heard of Morrigan or who have played her in any game than there are people who actually bought a Darkstalkers game. I don't think she stands a good chance anyway, but she's shown up in enough fighting games that I don't think she would get "literal who?" reactions from gamers. I mean MvC series alone is at 9m sales and she's been like the most recurring Capcom character after Ryu and Chun-Li.
But at that point, you'd might as well go for more relevant characters like Kasumi or Nakoruru (the latter of whom, while obscure, is actually active).
Morrigan would be included as a representative of Darkstalkers, a series that failed at arcades and sold fewer than a million units combined between countless console ports. It would be, by far, the most obscure third-party series in Smash Bros. It just doesn't have the pedigree to get in. Even a Morrigan assist trophy or Mii costume would be a miracle.
Since when does relevant mean a damn, especially when Banjo is going to be a playable character? If the character is well-known enough and/or has a ton of fan demand and legacy behind them, that's all that matters.
I fail to see how Kasumi or Morrigan would be worse then Joker.
I wouldn't hate Chun-li, I'd like her more then a RE character if nothing else, but it would just be so boring.
I just don't see how we go from three completely new and original characters just to spurt out "oh yeah here's a third Street Fighter character."
I honestly think this board can focus way to much on how much a series sales. Especially in regards to characters like Morrigan who's name carries more value then the series she's from.
But I guess if we did that we might actually talk about different series and goodness knows we can't have that.
I wouldn't hate Chun-li, I'd like her more then a RE character if nothing else, but it would just be so boring.
I just don't see how we go from three completely new and original characters just to spurt out "oh yeah here's a third Street Fighter character."
I honestly think this board can focus way to much on how much a series sales. Especially in regards to characters like Morrigan who's name carries more value then the series she's from.
But I guess if we did that we might actually talk about different series and goodness knows we can't have that.
Banjo at least sold millions at his height. The same can't be said for Morrigan, who also doesn't have nearly as much fan demand behind her as Banjo did.
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