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Grapezard

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Believe.


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And my axe, guy's the last of the old guard of Smash speculation.
 

Weiss

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Everyone wants Geno, in their heart of hearts. It's just too painful to hope for.

Star Road is repaired and our wishes will come true.

And my axe, guy's the last of the old guard of Smash speculation.

With Isaac and Waluigi as ATs who's even left after Geno for the long awaited Never Evers?

I don't know nothing about no SMRPG but you know what, I'm rooting for Geno gang

It's the best Mario game that came out in 1996.
 

Wonderrade

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Nobody should. Even if Hero made it out in time to be allowed he's not going to see any serious play because he's brand new and people are going to stick to their mains for the literal largest Smash tournament of all time.

the biggest influence the patch would have are the general buffs and nerfs

like if joker is nerfed and plant is buffed

as the law demands
 

Xwing

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Nobody should. Even if Hero made it out in time to be allowed he's not going to see any serious play because he's brand new and people are going to stick to their mains for the literal largest Smash tournament of all time.

There will be one person who makes a few upsets in pools with gimmick stuff like Kamikaze. But yeah, nobody playing Hero in Week 2 is going to make top 64 unless he is absolutely bonkers broken.
 

RailWays

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Nobody should. Even if Hero made it out in time to be allowed he's not going to see any serious play because he's brand new and people are going to stick to their mains for the literal largest Smash tournament of all time.
There likely will be a balance patch, so it definitely will bring some changes to the meta.
But yeah, I'm not expecting to see Hero anywhere near top 32.
 

Zarzolaon

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Nobody should. Even if Hero made it out in time to be allowed he's not going to see any serious play because he's brand new and people are going to stick to their mains for the literal largest Smash tournament of all time.
Except I thought MKLeo made a statement saying he'd play the next DLC character. I don't know about EVO specifically, but that could be interesting...
 

Hailinel

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Nobody should. Even if Hero made it out in time to be allowed he's not going to see any serious play because he's brand new and people are going to stick to their mains for the literal largest Smash tournament of all time.
This is the perfect recipe for a shonen protagonist to pick Hero up and storm through EVO without any predetermined strategy before toppling each of the gods in turn.
 

r_n

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the biggest influence the patch would have are the general buffs and nerfs

like if joker is nerfed and plant is buffed

as the law demands
How amazing would it be if 2 weeks before the biggest fighting game tournament of the year a patch drop that completely upends the entire tier list
snake? pi(ka)chu? Olimar? you fools, those are th worst character in the game. It's all about Piranha Plant, Samus and Little Mac


I mean it'd be awful for the competitors to the point that I think Evo would probably just go "let's....not." but it'd be amazing
 

Clefargle

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I'll take Geno because it gives me hope for other 1/2nd party chars
How amazing would it be if 2 weeks before the biggest fighting game tournament of the year a patch drop that completely upends the entire tier list
snake? pi(ka)chu? Olimar? you fools, those are th worst character in the game. It's all about Piranha Plant, Samus and Little Mac


I mean it'd be awful for the competitors to the point that I think Evo would probably just go "let's....not." but it'd be amazing

Too late Olimar already got nerfed hard and now has a broken sheild
 

RochHoch

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How amazing would it be if 2 weeks before the biggest fighting game tournament of the year a patch drop that completely upends the entire tier list
snake? pi(ka)chu? Olimar? you fools, those are th worst character in the game. It's all about Piranha Plant, Samus and Little Mac


I mean it'd be awful for the competitors to the point that I think Evo would probably just go "let's....not." but it'd be amazing
Even in that hypothetical situation, I'm sure that Kirby would still be garbage, somehow lol
 

Wonderrade

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How amazing would it be if 2 weeks before the biggest fighting game tournament of the year a patch drop that completely upends the entire tier list
snake? pi(ka)chu? Olimar? you fools, those are th worst character in the game. It's all about Piranha Plant, Samus and Little Mac


I mean it'd be awful for the competitors to the point that I think Evo would probably just go "let's....not." but it'd be amazing

The problem is we still dont even know what the tier list is

Olimar still does alright, snake does alright but without ally its alot less. All we really knwo if that MKleo looks unstoppable with joker and most people are probably planning on how to deal with that.

I mean tweek at low tier city last week won the whole thing going only pokemon trainer and its the first tourney he has used PT so we dont really know what to expact
 

Weiss

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True fans wouldn't even calling their supports as shitposting! :P. (And also they wouldn't gave up and pulled a darkest smashera twist out of nowhere)

On serious note: It's going to be crazy ride if Geno ended up not getting their own Mii Costume.

omg that was months ago how do you still remember

And yeah if Geno's costume doesn't return and I spend the next few months assured of his inclusion only for him not to be in, I will be so nettled.

I'll give my blessing for everyone to laugh my ass out of the room though.
 

NeonBorealis

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omg that was months ago how do you still remember

And yeah if Geno's costume doesn't return and I spend the next few months assured of his inclusion only for him not to be in, I will be so nettled.

I'll give my blessing for everyone to laugh my ass out of the room though.

We will never forget the Dunkel-Weiss era.
 

r_n

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The problem is we still dont even know what the tier list is

Olimar still does alright, snake does alright but without ally its alot less. All we really knwo if that MKleo looks unstoppable with joker and most people are probably planning on how to deal with that.

I mean tweek at low tier city last week won the whole thing going only pokemon trainer and its the first tourney he has used PT so we dont really know what to expact
shift my hypothetical from "top tier" to "pool of generally pretty good and frequent-ish characters" and "bottom tier" to "pool of pretty bad relative to everyone else" characters
 

MondoMega

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Say we got a bonus character released during the run of the Fighters Pass (we'll pretend that it's Geno); how would they handle the Fighter numbering?

Would they have it be #76 (after the Fighters Pass characters, despite releasing earlier than most of them) or would they slot them inbetween the numbers of the other DLC fighters?
 

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Say we got a bonus character released during the run of the Fighters Pass (we'll pretend that it's Geno); how would they handle the Fighter numbering?

Would they have it be #76 (after the Fighters Pass characters, despite releasing earlier than most of them) or would they slot them inbetween the numbers of the other DLC fighters?
Order of reveal. Then again, it would be weird if a character revealed later were released before the bonus character.
 

kirby_fox

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Say we got a bonus character released during the run of the Fighters Pass (we'll pretend that it's Geno); how would they handle the Fighter numbering?

Would they have it be #76 (after the Fighters Pass characters, despite releasing earlier than most of them) or would they slot them inbetween the numbers of the other DLC fighters?

Skip a number. They go by reveal of the character.
 

MondoMega

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Order of reveal. Then again, it would be weird if a character revealed later were released before the bonus character.
Skip a number. They go by reveal of the character.
Probably; I just think it'd be weird if they needed to explain to consumers that "the Fighters Pass contains fighters 71-73, 75-76; fighter 74 available seperately".

Of course, it'd be less of a problem if that bonus character was free in some way.
 

Regulus Tera

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Say we got a bonus character released during the run of the Fighters Pass (we'll pretend that it's Geno); how would they handle the Fighter numbering?

Would they have it be #76 (after the Fighters Pass characters, despite releasing earlier than most of them) or would they slot them inbetween the numbers of the other DLC fighters?
I think the Bonus character, from Nintendo's point of view, is Piranha Plant.
 

r_n

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Say we got a bonus character released during the run of the Fighters Pass (we'll pretend that it's Geno); how would they handle the Fighter numbering?

Would they have it be #76 (after the Fighters Pass characters, despite releasing earlier than most of them) or would they slot them inbetween the numbers of the other DLC fighters?
74. They would go by order revealed, even if it would be awkward to have 3 fighter pass characters, then this standalone, then the last 2
 

r_n

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Probably; I just think it'd be weird if they needed to explain to consumers that "the Fighters Pass contains fighters 71-73, 75-76; fighter 74 available seperately".

Of course, it'd be less of a problem if that bonus character was free in some way.
In fairness this hypothetical is already kind of weird, to have a non-echo bonus character revealed & released before the fighter's pass is even done.
 
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If we are getting bonus character then I can imagine that it would comes AFTER 75 I guess? I really hope that we would get more characters outside of Fighter Pass but I'm not going to get my expectation high tho.

I remember there is a rumor that Hero is coming out on July 21 but I wasn't sure about the information or so.
 
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