Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 3 | Seeking Answers to the Un-Bear-able Quest-ions!

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This has probably been discussed in the zillion pages since the Direct, but where do we stand with leaks now?
Obviously Vergeben and friends don't know any, but are any of the many, many 4chan ones still standing after this?
We're free from any rumors and leaks so you can discuss about ANYONE. Do not let people force you to believe only certain few characters that have chance tho.
 

stan423321

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Was thinking in 3rd party characters that are still not in Smash that could happen, anyone missing?

Ubisoft
Ezio Auditore
Rayman
Prince (Prince of Persia)
Sam Fisher

Microsoft
Master Chief
Steve

Activision / Blizzard
Sarah Kerrigan
Spyro
Crash
Arthas
Tracer

Capcom
Jill Valentine / Leon Kennedy / Chris Redfiel
Chun-Li
Dante
Hunter - Monster Hunter
Amaterasu

Square Enix
Lara Croft
Sora

Bethesda
Doomslayer
Dovahkiin

Rockstar
Max Payne

Electronic Arts
Commander Shepard

IO Interactive
Agent 47

Warner Bros
Scorpion

Koei Tecmo
Ryu Hayabusa

Bandai Namco
Lloyd Irving

Level-5
Professor Layton

Spike Chunsoft
Shiren (Mystery Dungeon)

Nihon Falcom
Adol Christin (Ys series)

Grasshopper
Travis Touchdown

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The answer is always yes. But I think you got most of the plausible picks here and then some. Research Tekken and generic characters (like MonHun which you got) if you want to patch the biggest holes I noticed.
 

TheRealCanadianBros

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I know everyone is hoping for Jill, but for an RE rep, I think Wesker would be the better choice in terms of move set.

Regardless, it would be pretty awesome to get an RE rep into Smash but at the end of the day I have no room to complain anymore. The bird and the bear made it in and I'm damn happy with that.
 

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the only way Luigi can come back is if Elma helps create a mimeosome Luigi body for his spirit to inhabit and Phoenix Wright brings Maya Fey with him to guide Luigi's spirit to inhabit the mimeosome
 
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It would be hilarious if Waluigi ended up getting in Smash Bros via DLC. I meant, the meme and requests for Waluigi faltered so hard after the game comes out. and no one really talk about him in Smash Bros anymore. I know it's late comment on Push's tweet few pages ago but still! I had to make a post about Waluigi.
 

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It would be hilarious if Waluigi ended up getting in Smash Bros via DLC. I meant, the meme and requests for Waluigi faltered so hard after the game comes out. and no one really talk about him in Smash Bros anymore. I know it's late comment on Push's tweet few pages ago but still! I had to make a post about Waluigi.
If he made it in, I would change my avatar to Waluigi for a month to show my displeasure lol.
 

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I really think the next reveal is going to be a first party character.

The last 3 reveals have all been 3rd party, and although it is easier to negotiate 3rd party characters for DLC, I think they’ll break the trend with a first party character.

Also: I don’t think there’s a rule that says the stage has to correlate with the character.

If we got a character from a series that already has many stages from that series, they could just add a missing past stage or two.

Edit: Just bring back Rainbow Road, if Waluigi was added for example.
 

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so like

are people looking at 10 anime swordfighters that look almost identical, except one has cool Demon armor, and saying "I want to play as all of them except the one in cool Demon armor"?



It would be hilarious if Waluigi ended up getting in Smash Bros via DLC. I meant, the meme and requests for Waluigi faltered so hard after the game comes out. and no one really talk about him in Smash Bros anymore. I know it's late comment on Push's tweet few pages ago but still! I had to make a post about Waluigi.
yesssss
 

stan423321

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No, his spirit got taken by Death.
This conversation is pointless. It could be the other Luigi, or he could be loaded up on 1-ups.

I know everyone is hoping for Jill, but for an RE rep, I think Wesker would be the better choice in terms of move set.
Wesker could be hilarious if they implemented the movie moves. However, we usually get any antagonists as the third rep of a franchise or later (Meta Knight was second, I guess), so he's a long shot.
 
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Sorry, but I'm still firmly rooting for Heihachi and Jill.

"Clash of Thunder"
Incineroar makes quick work of Villager, Bowser Jr., and King K. Rool, and then Pikachu (preferably Libre) jumps into the ring. After the two fight for a bit, Pikachu emerges victorious, and as it celebrates, someone else drops down into the ring. The camera pans up to reveal Heihachi as he begins charging electricity. Pikachu stores up electricity and the two rush at each other.

"Survival Horror"
Luigi frantically runs out of Dracula's Castle and through a forest before coming upon a mansion in a clearing. He cautiously enters the mansion and a zombie appears, and he fires a plunger at it just like he did to the mummy. The plunger is ineffective, but the zombie is suddenly blasted away with an explosive, and the camera pans around to reveal Jill standing behind Luigi with a grenade launcher.
YES PLEASE! I WANT THIS!

If he made it in, I would change my avatar to Waluigi for a month to show my displeasure lol.
Haha! I was against Waluigi's inclusion in Smash 4. Also I'm in a weird place where I'm still against his inclusion (mostly because of toxic fandom) but at same time, I don't mind his inclusion because he's probably going to be very wacky character in term of moveset. I think I'm mellowed out because I already got all characters I wanted to see in Smash Bros at the point where Waluigi's inclusion wouldn't even affect me.

If you are shocked that I dislike Waluigi then you don't even remember what I said about Waluigi in Smash 4 in old place.
 

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I know everyone is hoping for Jill, but for an RE rep, I think Wesker would be the better choice in terms of move set.

Regardless, it would be pretty awesome to get an RE rep into Smash but at the end of the day I have no room to complain anymore. The bird and the bear made it in and I'm damn happy with that.
  1. Sakurai typically goes for protagonists first.
  2. Smash Ultimate needs more women on the roster.
 

RockmanBN

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  1. Sakurai typically goes for protagonists first.
  2. Smash Ultimate needs more women on the roster.
While yes the male/female ratio is really bad, but I don't think they have an interest in fixing it. Just look at the DQ Hero. They choose all the iconic heros with swords to match DQ11 guy, but didn't even bother using the female alt version of Erdrick. They're just going to get the most iconic character from a series and that's it.
 
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Jill would be the best RE choice, but I'm not convinced that any of the likely RE reps (her, Chris, or Leon) would really be that interesting from a moveset perspective.

We're talking about a series where, traditionally, you have to stand still in order to attack getting a rep in a movement-oriented platform fighter whose director emphasizes making characters as faithful as possible to their home series.
 

TheRealCanadianBros

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  1. Sakurai typically goes for protagonists first.
  2. Smash Ultimate needs more women on the roster.
I'd like to see more antagonists in the game. If they choose to go with an RE rep, again, I believe Wesker has a better variety of moves you can choose from. I'm not saying that they can't do Jill, just that Wesker has more to pull from. I highly doubt they'll go with Battlesuit Jill as that's not her iconic look, and she might end up as another Snake character. If Smash needs more women on the roster, then perhaps DMC is another series to choose from Capcom for a female, move sets and variety.
 

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Say goodbye to Google Theory, say hello to Companion Theory.


tl;dw: all DLC characters have a companion who can appear with them in the mural (Joker and Morgana, Hero and Slime, Banjo and Kazooie)


Personally I think it's reaching, but let's get discussion going.
 

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I'd like to see more antagonists in the game. If they choose to go with an RE rep, again, I believe Wesker has a better variety of moves you can choose from. I'm not saying that they can't do Jill, just that Wesker has more to pull from. I highly doubt they'll go with Battlesuit Jill as that's not her iconic look, and she might end up as another Snake character. If Smash needs more women on the roster, then perhaps DMC is another series to choose from Capcom for a female, move sets and variety.
RE1 Jill is pretty damn iconic, & it'd be weird to go for a villain as the sole Resident Evil rep (as awesome as Wesker & D.C. Douglas are). And let's be honest, if Sakurai goes for Devil May Cry, nobody is getting in over Dante (not just because of the protagonists-first thing, but also because Dante is too iconic & is basically the grandfather of stylish action games).
 

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Say goodbye to Google Theory, say hello to Companion Theory.


tl;dw: all DLC characters have a companion who can appear with them in the mural (Joker and Morgana, Hero and Slime, Banjo and Kazooie)


Personally I think it's reaching, but let's get discussion going.
Obviously this confirms the Heavy Weapons Guy from Team Fortress 2, who will be accompanied by the Medic
 
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Melpomene

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Jill would be the best RE choice, but I'm not convinced that any of the likely RE reps (her, Chris, or Leon) would really be that interesting from a moveset perspective.
Agreed. If we don't get Phoenix or Amaterasu, I'd like to at least get the Monster Hunter - tons of material there, although MH's speed would be an interesting hurdle to see Sakurai get past.

Say goodbye to Google Theory, say hello to Companion Theory.


tl;dw: all DLC characters have a companion who can appear with them in the mural (Joker and Morgana, Hero and Slime, Banjo and Kazooie)


Personally I think it's reaching, but let's get discussion going.
I feel like almost any character has a "companion" to appear with, if you reach hard enough.
 

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I think that Joker is easily the weakest and most out there of the three picks so far. I know Persona is popular, and there's no ironclad criteria for Sakurai's picks, but I personally don't think it's a good pick.

I prefer the characters with longer legacies that are more closely tied to Nintendo systems or obvious huge rivals from earlier gens. I have no interest in Banjo or DQ, but those fit the bill much better to me, and it's hard to argue against those aspects, so I'm fine with them.
I really think Joker is a case of Atlus earning whatever representation they wanted, and Atlus chose Joker for their own reasons.

And Atlus really does deserve a rep. It has been a major publisher on Nintendo systems for a long time, almost the entire mainline SMT series in Nintendo exclusive, Atlus made a Virtual Boy game, it provided a ton of support for the DS and 3DS, and so on. Their games lack recurring protagonists and/or really popular mascots that people would latch on to for Smash Bros representation, so going with the protagonist of one of their most popular games ever works in the same way that Cloud does for SE representation.
 

stan423321

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Say goodbye to Google Theory, say hello to Companion Theory.


tl;dw: all DLC characters have a companion who can appear with them in the mural (Joker and Morgana, Hero and Slime, Banjo and Kazooie)


Personally I think it's reaching, but let's get discussion going.
That sounds like a coincidence, but a really huge one. You know how Mario could have Cappy, Luigi could have Polterpup, Young Link could have Navi...

that said let's note that Murfy is pretty analogous to Morgana when it comes to Rayman, for the sake of spreading Rayman info where possible
 

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Jill would be the best RE choice, but I'm not convinced that any of the likely RE reps (her, Chris, or Leon) would really be that interesting from a moveset perspective.

We're talking about a series where, traditionally, you have to stand still in order to attack getting a rep in a movement-oriented platform fighter whose director emphasizes making characters as faithful as possible to their home series.
If one of them gets in, I'd love for them to be able to summon a zombie like Jill does in MvC2.
 
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Not gonna lie, one of the biggest reasons I'm doubtful about an RE rep is because Chris' moveset in UMvC3 and MvCI is probably my least favorite in those games.

Incidentally, two of my favorites are Phoenix Wright and Monster Hunter's.
 

TheRealCanadianBros

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RE1 Jill is pretty damn iconic. And let's be honest, if Sakurai goes for Devil May Cry, nobody is getting in over Dante (not just because of the protagonists-first thing, but because Dante is too iconic & is basically the grandfather of stylish action games).
I agree, RE1 Jill is iconic. When I think of Jill, I think of her in the STARS uniform. If they're going with RE1 Jill, her move set is going to be CQC type stuff and weapons, similar to Snake..but I'm making assumptions. Maybe they can pull from MvC2 a bit and give her summons or something, that might make her a little more unique. Otherwise the only other version of Jill worth putting in is the battlesuit version, something I personally don't like and do not feel is a proper representation of the character or the series. If that's the direction they go in as they gear up for an RE rep, I'd rather have Wesker doing the flip kicks and bullet time dodging.
 

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Say goodbye to Google Theory, say hello to Companion Theory.


tl;dw: all DLC characters have a companion who can appear with them in the mural (Joker and Morgana, Hero and Slime, Banjo and Kazooie)


Personally I think it's reaching, but let's get discussion going.
This is very reaching, but just for fun...

Crash Bandicoot with Aku Aku. Maybe even a Coco alt or Echo fighter.
 

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I agree, RE1 Jill is iconic. When I think of Jill, I think of her in the STARS uniform. If they're going with RE1 Jill, her move set is going to be CQC type stuff and weapons, similar to Snake..but I'm making assumptions. Maybe they can pull from MvC2 a bit and give her summons or something, that might make her a little more unique. Otherwise the only other version of Jill worth putting in is the battlesuit version, something I personally don't like and do not feel is a proper representation of the character or the series. If that's the direction they go in as they gear up for an RE rep, I'd rather have Wesker doing the flip kicks and bullet time dodging.
They could also take some cues from MvC2 in how her moveset was handled (namely in throwing in a zombie summon for either her Side-B or Down-B).
 

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I mean, we got 4 different DQ heroes sharing one slot. No reason we couldn’t have RE rep be Jill/Chris sharing a slot. Mii fighter’s have different body sizes in the same slot. No reason Chris and Jill couldn’t share the same moveset and just have different voices like Corrin.