Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 3 | Seeking Answers to the Un-Bear-able Quest-ions!

Hailinel

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Devil's Third was terrible, but his work on DOA 1-4 and Ninja Gaiden 1 and 2 were pretty dang good. Is there some reason to dislike him outside of his development work? (I have never read anything about him).
He got in hot water at one point and was accused of sexually harassing a female Tecmo employee that, if I recall correctly, at least led to him receiving some punishment internally, though nothing happened legally. And while his public persona was always brash, he also tended to shit on teams that worked on Sigma and Sigma 2 since he didn't work on those versions.

I'm certain that if Itagaki were still leading Team Ninja today, we wouldn't have any of the collaborative titles the studio has worked on (Other M, Hyrule/Fire Emblem Warriors, MUA 3, etc), Nioh wouldn't exist as it does now, and Koei Tecmo's corporate makeup would look vastly different (given that modern Team Ninja, without Itagaki, is now basically all of the formerly independent Tecmo in terms of size and personnel).
 

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I feel really spoiled because Dragon Quest and Banjo-Kazooie have been my two most wanted third-parties since before the leaks and speculation. I somehow always end up getting what I want (for the most part) in Smash.
Same. DQ I wanted for it's story in gaming, in Japan and connections to Nintendo (while also being a fan of the series) and Banjo Kazooie for how much connected it is with Nintendo due to Rare and the 64.

I'm glad that both happened. Now I need to think which ones I want on Smash. And as always, I try to put characters with relations with Nintendo... which is why I wanted SMT with Jack Frost on the game instead of Persona with Joker.
 
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In Digimon Rumble it's built up from a meter and then manually activated for a temporary Digivolution. It would sort of be like if Joker became Arsene and the transformation wasn't automatic.

In Rumble, Agumon Digivoles into Wargreymon rather than Greymon. For Smash, I think a Bowser-sized Greymon would be fine.
Yeah - i think that would really work. And like say Pokemon Trainer we could have Agumon - light,speedy fighter. Greymon - Heavy,Lumbering Fighter. Wargreymon - Medium between the two
 

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I've made out with a bandit thus far with the DLC considering that Persona 5 is one of my favorite games ever, I like Dragon Quest quite a lot, and Banjo Kazooie was a huge part of my childhood. Sora and Doomslayer would be the dream for the final two, but no way do I expect them to happen.

I'm pretty pessimistic towards the last two characters since I can't possibly imagine that Sakurai would go 5/5 when it comes to franchises that I really like. I've never touched Tekken in my life and I'm a huge baby when it comes to horror, so Resident Evil is a no-go for me as well, but I 100% respect their legacy and agree that they deserve to be in, even if they're not my thing.

Speaking of which, in case Jill does get in, are there any good Resident Evil games that you guys think that a non-horror fan might be able to get through? I've heard good things about RE4 and Revelations, but I dunno much about them in general.
 

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I've made out with a bandit thus far with the DLC considering that Persona 5 is one of my favorite games ever, I like Dragon Quest quite a lot, and Banjo Kazooie was a huge part of my childhood. Sora and Doomslayer would be the dream for the final two, but no way do I expect them to happen.

I'm pretty pessimistic towards the last two characters since I can't possibly imagine that Sakurai would go 5/5 when it comes to franchises that I really like. I've never touched Tekken in my life and I'm a huge baby when it comes to horror, so Resident Evil is a no-go for me as well, but I 100% respect their legacy and agree that they deserve to be in, even if they're not my thing.

Speaking of which, in case Jill does get in, are there any good Resident Evil games that you guys think that a non-horror fan might be able to get through? I've heard good things about RE4 and Revelations, but I dunno much about them in general.
RE5 would be the best one to play that has the least horror, but is streamlined enough.
 

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Was thinking in 3rd party characters that are still not in Smash that could happen, anyone missing?

Ubisoft
Ezio Auditore
Rayman
Prince (Prince of Persia)
Sam Fisher

Microsoft
Master Chief
Steve

Activision / Blizzard
Sarah Kerrigan
Spyro
Crash
Arthas
Tracer

Capcom
Jill Valentine / Leon Kennedy / Chris Redfiel
Chun-Li
Dante
Hunter - Monster Hunter
Amaterasu

Square Enix
Lara Croft
Sora

Bethesda
Doomslayer
Dovahkiin

Rockstar
Max Payne

Electronic Arts
Commander Shepard

IO Interactive
Agent 47

Warner Bros
Scorpion

Koei Tecmo
Ryu Hayabusa

Bandai Namco
Lloyd Irving

Level-5
Professor Layton

Spike Chunsoft
Shiren (Mystery Dungeon)

Nihon Falcom
Adol Christin (Ys series)

Grasshopper
Travis Touchdown

.n_n.
Viewtiful Joe for capcom
 

Ryce

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I guess if I had to put together a list of my most desired characters at this point it would look something like this:
  1. Anyone from Resident Evil, but preferably Jill
  2. Excitebiker
  3. Chorus Kids
  4. Dixie Kong
  5. Heihachi
  6. Spring Man + Ribbon Girl echo
  7. Majora's Mask (with Skull Kid being pulled around helplessly like a rag doll)
  8. Midna & Wolf Link
  9. Arthur from Ghosts 'n Goblins
  10. Ryu Hayabusa
 

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RE5 would be the best one to play that has the least horror, but is streamlined enough.
Isn't that the one people make fun of partially because Chris punches a boulder? I thought that one was supposed to be bad.

I guess I'm looking for the least scary Resident Evil game that's still generally considered to be pretty good, even if its not the least horror filled.
 

yuoke

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Isn't that the one people make fun of partially because Chris punches a boulder? I thought that one was supposed to be bad.

I guess I'm looking for the least scary Resident Evil game that's still generally considered to be pretty good, even if its not the least horror filled.
Well then probably 4, but it still has some scary parts. Not really scary to me, but everyone is different.
 

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I've made out with a bandit thus far with the DLC considering that Persona 5 is one of my favorite games ever, I like Dragon Quest quite a lot, and Banjo Kazooie was a huge part of my childhood. Sora and Doomslayer would be the dream for the final two, but no way do I expect them to happen.

I'm pretty pessimistic towards the last two characters since I can't possibly imagine that Sakurai would go 5/5 when it comes to franchises that I really like. I've never touched Tekken in my life and I'm a huge baby when it comes to horror, so Resident Evil is a no-go for me as well, but I 100% respect their legacy and agree that they deserve to be in, even if they're not my thing.

Speaking of which, in case Jill does get in, are there any good Resident Evil games that you guys think that a non-horror fan might be able to get through? I've heard good things about RE4 and Revelations, but I dunno much about them in general.
Same. The three DLC so far are characters from franchises I like. I said that I preferred SMT with Jack Frost but at the same time, Persona 5 is one of my favorite games and I love the franchise more than SMT itself. lol
 

Mekanos

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My most wanted realistic character is Dixie Kong by a long shot, but for third parties (aka the Pass) I mostly want Crash, Dante, Jill/Leon and Sora, but none I would lose sleep over. Like I said before, I previously mostly wanted Leon but considering the lack of female Erdrick, Jill should absolutely take priority.
 

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Lists huh?

1. Midna
2. BotW Zelda
3. Shantae
4. Travis Touchdown
5. KOS-MOS
6. One of the four Champions
7. 2B
8. Pearl and Marina
9. Jill Valentine
10. Geno
 

KtotheRoc

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The Dixie Kong dream lives on for another day.

The Isaac dream is dead.

And the Ryu Hayabusa dream is currently up in the air.

Other than that? Not really sure.
 

MondoMega

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We're doing lists now? Okay:
  1. Doom Slayer
  2. Marx / Susie
  3. Prince of All Cosmos
  4. Amaterasu / Phoenix Wright
  5. Ganon
  6. Crono / Geno / 2B
  7. Dixie Kong
  8. Master Chief
  9. Ryu Hayabusa
  10. Travis Touchdown (I have been converted)
 

HylianSeven

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I was looking through Fighters Pass rumors and "leaks" on the SSB Wiki, and So far I only have seen one that was NOT completely disproven yet, but I personally think it's BS and I'll explain why:

4chan "leak" that claimed the following:
Joker
Crono, Neku, or some Square Enix character
Banjo
Edelgard
Sylux

This isn't COMPLETELY disproven, but it didn't mention DQ at all in the Square Enix part. I still think it's coincidence they got that much right. The reason I think it's BS though is because Nintendo has really been talking up this Fighters Pass. Would they really have their three most hype fighters come out first, and then go on a ho-hum note of Sylux and Edelgard?

All the other leaks have been effectively proven false at some point. The others that have said Doomslaker, Ryu Hayabusa and Steve have to be false because now one of those can't be in.

I think we're going to be legitimately surprised by these last two characters.
 

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Alright let’s have some speculation fun!

After these 5 DLC characters, the CSS will still not be a complete rectangle (leaving 3 spaces from a final perfect row)

People have pointed out that when it’s “echoes stacked” it’ll be a perfect rectangle, so how do we solve this?

3 MORE ECHO FIGHTERS!

So Era, what are your 3 Echo fighters?

I’ll start:

1. Midna (Twili) / Zelda
2. Medusa / Palutena
3. Octoling / Inkling
Heroine / Hero
Medusa (or Viridi if it can work) / Palutena
Roll or Proto Man / Mega Man
Huh, won't load for me. But, Oh man, I wanted to call dibs back then if/when Erdrick was announced back then, but I didn't because I thought I'd be too obnoxious and rude.
 

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Didn’t you say SMRPG sucks and you gave up on Geno?
Oh yeah, that was a while ago. I completely forgot about that.

It was a double whammy of the game being super easy because I grinded the Super Jump challenge and losing all my save files because my Hyperkin SNES is a piece of crap, so I think I reacted too strongly. If I went back without grinding or anything I'd probably like it again.
 

Mekanos

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Oh yeah, that was a while ago. I completely forgot about that.

It was a double whammy of the game being super easy because I grinded the Super Jump challenge and losing all my save files because my Hyperkin SNES is a piece of crap, so I think I reacted too strongly. If I went back without grinding or anything I'd probably like it again.
SMRPG is one of my adored childhood games but I imagine it can seem jarring today. It was my very first RPG.
 

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The list is for the ten characters we most want in, right?

1. Elma
2. Dixie Kong
3. Phoenix Wright
4. Professor Layton
5. Impa
6. Doom Slayer
7. Marx
8. Resident Evil character
9. Isaac
10. Ganon

I don't feel confident about any of these happening soon except for Resident Evil or Dixie tbh.
 

yuoke

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I was looking through Fighters Pass rumors and "leaks" on the SSB Wiki, and So far I only have seen one that was NOT completely disproven yet, but I personally think it's BS and I'll explain why:

4chan "leak" that claimed the following:
Joker
Crono, Neku, or some Square Enix character
Banjo
Edelgard
Sylux

This isn't COMPLETELY disproven, but it didn't mention DQ at all in the Square Enix part. I still think it's coincidence they got that much right. The reason I think it's BS though is because Nintendo has really been talking up this Fighters Pass. Would they really have their three most hype fighters come out first, and then go on a ho-hum note of Sylux and Edelgard?

All the other leaks have been effectively proven false at some point. The others that have said Doomslaker, Ryu Hayabusa and Steve have to be false because now one of those can't be in.

I think we're going to be legitimately surprised by these last two characters.
Get edlegard, but also sylux

I'll take it.
A soul for a soul.
 

ned_ballad

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A neat little touch, is the spring pad isn't a proper circle, it's actually jagged around like it was on the N64 (due to a lack of polygons)

They made the lack of polygons the "canon" way it's supposed to look
 

Ryce

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It's still so crazy seeing Banjo & Kazooie in Smash after writing them off as an impossibility for 15 years. It feels like I'm looking at a really high quality mod whenever I see them.
 

MondoMega

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You know, I keep forgetting about Paper Mario.

I guess they would be like, 11th on my list.

It's still so crazy seeing Banjo & Kazooie in Smash after writing them off as an impossibility for 15 years. It feels like I'm looking at a really high quality mod whenever I see them.
This DLC speculation period helped the idea of them being playable sink in for me. I'm SO glad it happened; now I just need to see that Steve Mii Costume and everything will be as it should.
 

Mekanos

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It's still so crazy seeing Banjo & Kazooie in Smash after writing them off as an impossibility for 15 years. It feels like I'm looking at a really high quality mod whenever I see them.
I hope after Sakurai added King K. Rool, Ridley, and Banjo-Kazooie, we can bury the “Sakurai doesn’t listen to fans!” narrative like Gruntilda under the boulder.
 

MondoMega

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I hope after Sakurai added King K. Rool, Ridley, and Banjo-Kazooie, we can bury the “Sakurai doesn’t listen to fans!” narrative like Gruntilda under the boulder.
Sakurai can truly prove that he listens to fans by including some sort of idolmaster representation for the singular Haruka supporter.

Then we'll know for sure.

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It is pulled from the official site; you can tell because it's made to loop around indefinitely.
 

Bluewind098

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Top 10 Most wanted post E3

1. Mythra in a frontlining playable form
2. Rex and Pyra (The more realistic choice)
3. Sora
4. Nero
5. Shantae
6. 2B
7. Rayman
8. Spring Man
9. Spyro
10. Capcom tie (Monster Hunter, Phoenix Wright, Amaterasu)