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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 6 | Hungry Like The Wolf
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Oh hey, Icons is coming back. 5 dollars will get you all characters and cosmetics, no more F2P or anything
And they're continuing development on it under a new name (and a new product, Icons is a legacy product)
And they're continuing development on it under a new name (and a new product, Icons is a legacy product)
They bring back Icons just to immediately shelve it and start over?
I mean, it's kind of a mess, they really did need to start over.
And they're selling the old Icons for 5 dollars, so it doesn't seem that bad.
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Thanks for those responses and I wish more members would answer those question because I thought some people have their reasons to be here as well. I guess it's most people here are in for a hype ride and not having any special feelings toward to the franchise.
smh y'all don't appreciate the deep banjo kazooie lore
Also people who bought any of the DLC for the original version of Icons get this "Legacy Edition" for free, so that's neat.
I mean, yeah. It is a mess. But given the same people are involved I don't see their next attempt being any cleaner.
Probably not, but they're going to try
Their first step needs to be moving away from "this is Smash Bros, but... isn't" because that makes the game pointless. But since they've already mentioned one character was given Wolf's Shine as a balance change, they already seem to still think of the game as a Smash clone without any sort of unique identity.
I tried to wipe this from my mind, but your thread made me remember it AND improved on the monstrosity.smh y'all don't appreciate the deep banjo kazooie lore
I'm glad they're not giving up.
If the next popular character can't make a viable echo, then there just won't be an echo.
Before Icons lunched. I've heard members of the Dev team talk about Smash and understanding how it became the game that it is, the little things that set it apart that other games fail to do, what makes casual
Fans happy, what makes Smash bros fans happy.
So when Icons launched. It rather shocked me how many mistakes they made. So I think they made a right choice starting over, it would probably take much more effort to make Icons appealing. You could somewhat argue Icons reveal trailer was its biggest downfall. First impressions are everything in most cases and that did not go well for them.
Fans happy, what makes Smash bros fans happy.
So when Icons launched. It rather shocked me how many mistakes they made. So I think they made a right choice starting over, it would probably take much more effort to make Icons appealing. You could somewhat argue Icons reveal trailer was its biggest downfall. First impressions are everything in most cases and that did not go well for them.
I hate that they managed to get two Sonic 1 songs for Brawl, but chosen SCRAP BRAIN over Marble, Spring Yard or Star Light.
Now, Game Gear/Master System Scrap Brain? I could accept this one.
Scrap Brain is a great song. Definitely better than Marble at least.
Why would anyone want to be reminded of Marble Zone
Flying Battery (from Mania) should have gotten in
Flying Battery (from Mania) should have gotten in
I can see the logic of picking Scrap Brain over those three given that Star Light, Marble, and Spring Yard are very meandering tracks and Sakurai has talked in the past during Ultimate's leadup about wanting tracks that fit a "Smash vibe". Notably it was one of the tracks they brought back after its absence from 4. Though yes, the 8-bit version is objectively superior.
Still mad Sonic literally only has one remix in this entire damn series.
Scrap Brain fits terribly on Green Hill and Windy Hill though. Like, who would actually set it anywhere close to max likelihood? Insanity.
Doesn't help that Mega Drive Scrap Brain is inferior to the MS/GG version.
Wish we got western artists on Ultimate earlier. You're underestimating the power of Tee Lopes to make any Sonic song a bop.
Every time I think I'm about to start really enjoying Astral Chain it does something bad.
Like here I've just unlocked Bladewolf from MGR and now the game wants me to platform.
EDIT: Never mind Bladewolf can dig up items by scritching his little paws and I love him.
Like here I've just unlocked Bladewolf from MGR and now the game wants me to platform.
EDIT: Never mind Bladewolf can dig up items by scritching his little paws and I love him.
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They are better off making unique characters rather than trying to replicating those characters into Icons. And the name sucks as well.
I'm okay with more smash clones since competition is good for business. However it's clear that they lost themselves in middle of development and trying to finds their ground to put their feet down. They kinda didn't.
I'm more talking about deciding to include it all the way back in Brawl, before Sakurai seemingly cared about that "Smash vibe" thing (he made sure that all of Ultimate's Animal Crossing remixes were fast-paced for a reason; I think he mentioned the The Roost specifically as a track that didn't fit... yet he brought it back anyway).
They brought every Sonic track back for Ultimate, besides Right There, Ride On being cut. It isn't really special in that regard.
It's really sad that despite both Ohtani and Senoue being on the Smash sound team, neither of them did Sonic remixes for Ultimate.
Speaking of Sonic I'm actually digging back into the franchise again and I just started looking into the IDW comics. Considering his voice actor and all the Resident Evil talk I found it amusing.
Oh right, I need to read the most recent issue; forgot this was a thing lol.Speaking of Sonic I'm actually digging back into the franchise again and I just started looking into the IDW comics. Considering his voice actor and all the Resident Evil talk I found it amusing.
Oh are we posting Sonic comics now?
It's been kind a drag of a comic due to corporate mandates by Sega, but apparently the whole Zombot story has been kicking into gear as of late. I was more interested in the Tangle & Whisper mini.
It's been kind a drag of a comic due to corporate mandates by Sega, but apparently the whole Zombot story has been kicking into gear as of late. I was more interested in the Tangle & Whisper mini.
Those two were part of the reason I started digging into IDW. They look cool.Oh are we posting Sonic comics now?
It's been kind a drag of a comic due to corporate mandates by Sega, but apparently the whole Zombot story has been kicking into gear as of late. I was more interested in the Tangle & Whisper mini.
Unfortunately, "Da Rules" strictly forbid Tangle and Whisper from being included in Smash, as they are not video game characters.
You know, since they were down with Generations tracks, I would've taken Speed Highway and Chemical Plant...
Those two were part of the reason I started digging into IDW. They look cool.
Yeah apparently the mini has been getting really well received so far, and Whisper's been the highlight of the comic for me.
I'm one of those complete degenerates who's not much of a fan of Sonic games on account of them either sucking or me sucking at them in the case of the good ones like 3&K and Mania, but I like the media surrounding the character.
I'm even worse than that
i'm one of those vile creatures who unironically likes the Adventure games. Well, at least SA2; a lot of the enjoyment from SA1 is totally ironic.
I'll beat you both. I unironically like both Adventure 1+2.(Though SA2 is better.)
Yeah but you guys don't read old Archie Sonic issues and think "wow this is actually fun!"
Hell yeah. Genesis music is excellent.
Don't know why people always feel the need to use the worst examples to define the system's sound. Especially when most of the time it's badly ripped versions of bad tracks from poor emulation.
Platforming is a thing in the game well before you get your third legion.
Sonic Adventure obviously always had problems from the get go but I do think it's safe to say the DX version and all subsequent ports of it on later consoles probably had a helping hand in pissing all over the legacy/reputation of that game.
I still really hate the DX character models, they're really waxy and annoying to look at. The Dreamcast versions are more charming and actually look quite similar to the Classic era designs, albeit with adjusted proportions to look better for a 3D platforming game and colored eyes for some reason.
I still really hate the DX character models, they're really waxy and annoying to look at. The Dreamcast versions are more charming and actually look quite similar to the Classic era designs, albeit with adjusted proportions to look better for a 3D platforming game and colored eyes for some reason.
If they took SA2's Sonic/Shadow gameplay and built a whole game around that it'd be fun. It'd last two hours, but it'd be fun.
And now it's even worse!
And now it's even worse!
Sonic Adventure obviously always had problems from the get go but I do think it's safe to say the DX version and all subsequent ports of it on later consoles probably had a helping hand in pissing all over the legacy/reputation of that game.
I still really hate the DX character models, they're really waxy and annoying to look at. The Dreamcast versions are more charming and actually look quite similar to the Classic era designs, albeit with adjusted proportions to look better for a 3D platforming game and colored eyes for some reason.
It's not just the character models. Sonic Adventure is cursed where every rerelease somehow introduces more bugs and instability that were never there in the Dreamcast original. It's mindboggling. The game that you can play now by just getting it from Steam or whatever simply isn't going to be the same experience as it was on the original release.
Sonic Adventure 2's highs are better than Sonic Adventure's, but when its highs basically amount to Sonic & Shadow's first 3 levels and Pumpkin Hill that's not saying much.
Also yeah DX's upgrades are just kinda bad because they basically only touched up the main characters which just makes it jarring.
Also Chris Thorndyke is there and his presence ruins anything
Also yeah DX's upgrades are just kinda bad because they basically only touched up the main characters which just makes it jarring.
Also Chris Thorndyke is there and his presence ruins anything
Steam Community :: Guide :: BetterSADX
BetterSADX is an easy to install / automated patch that transforms the Steam version of Sonic Adventure DX into an enhanced version with many more features added by the community over the last several
At least the fans picked up where Sega dropped the ball. The BetterSADX mod for the Steam version of Sonic Adventure DX is the remaster the game deserves.
I mean hey, at least modding can help in fixing Sonic Adventure!
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EDIT: Gosh darn it.
Steam Community :: Guide :: BetterSADX
BetterSADX is an easy to install / automated patch that transforms the Steam version of Sonic Adventure DX into an enhanced version with many more features added by the community over the last several
EDIT: Gosh darn it.
The Adventure gameplay is more sustainable overall for Sonic Team. They can make less level for more playtime in comparison to the boost formula, while still making Sonic fast.
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