Just one. They have a year and a half to announce the other five.
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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread 9 | New Decade, Same Old Debates
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Plus it's not like you need a second character after Dante, everyone will be satisfied after the one.
I reserve the right to at least transfer the data to a not-in-use SD card before eating it. Quote me in slightly-less-than-two-years, I'll do it.
I don't recall how popular Crash is in Japan, but as long as he's got some sizable support there, he would certainly be a pretty big name to kick things off.
Crash is pretty popular there, yeah. He's basically the only western character I could see getting in due to that reason.
I wanna say Crash feels more like a when than an if, but I feel like that's what we all said about Resident Evil and then all we got were four corpses.
I honestly do not believe they're waiting until E3 to announce DLC 6. It honestly doesn't make any sense. You're suggesting Sakurai and Nintendo are that incapable of getting them out by June and can only get one character even out by June and we have to wait until possibly September to get DLC 7 announced and later until release then that would imply we would've gone from 4 or so characters in a year to 2. The even more pressing part is that despite lowering their effort's by literally 50% they would then need to work double time to get the rest of the four characters out so then they'd be back to Square 1.
I'd expect a slowdown in production but waiting until E3 is past the point of possibility. On top of that Nintendo does some weird ass things but announcing a 6 character Pass 6 months before they could announce the first one is also just totally ridiculous too. Especially since there's no implication on the actual Pass itself that there would be that huge of a delay until DLC 6. I think it's more likely that they announced the DLC Pass this early is because they know they can get the content out in a timely manner. Much more timely than 6 months for one character.
I'd expect a slowdown in production but waiting until E3 is past the point of possibility. On top of that Nintendo does some weird ass things but announcing a 6 character Pass 6 months before they could announce the first one is also just totally ridiculous too. Especially since there's no implication on the actual Pass itself that there would be that huge of a delay until DLC 6. I think it's more likely that they announced the DLC Pass this early is because they know they can get the content out in a timely manner. Much more timely than 6 months for one character.
Popular back then. Doesn't seem like it now. Iirc the remake and CTR remake didn't sell that well there.
I think they are going to massively front load Season 2. I think Characters 6 & 7 are going to be the biggest, most hype inducing characters they could get. And I would not be surprised if Crash is one of those two. But if he's not, I don't think he'll happen (at least in this pass).
Crash complicates my "legacy with Nintendo is key" theory a little, in that he's been on a bunch of Nintendo systems in quite a few iterations, but his legacy is very much associated with PlayStation. I guess I'd have to wait and see who was next to check the veracity on it, in that scenario.
I was rereading Sakurai's interview on his gaming habits and found this:
I'm now positive he was heartbroken about not including DQV's Hero. 😂
I'm now positive he was heartbroken about not including DQV's Hero. 😂
Persona is its own thing now, but its roots are in SMT, which has been on Nintendo consoles pretty consistently since the late 80s. Joker is an entirely sensible choice if you want to acknowledge SMT's longstanding ties to Nintendo, but realize that it's too niche to sell your DLC pass on.
Does this imply that Nintendo and Sakurai both agreed no one in SMT was recognizable enough to put in Smash, thereby reducing my hopes for Jack Frost to rubble? Absolutely!
I'm curious what people would consider "the biggest, most hype inducing" characters.
I listed Crash, but who else do you think is out there? Obviously Sora would be one of them. Master Chief. Maybe Dante (I go back and forth on that one). But there are more out there that I didn't mention.
And what do you think of my theory that if these characters aren't front loaded in this pass then they aren't happening?
I listed Crash, but who else do you think is out there? Obviously Sora would be one of them. Master Chief. Maybe Dante (I go back and forth on that one). But there are more out there that I didn't mention.
And what do you think of my theory that if these characters aren't front loaded in this pass then they aren't happening?
Solid Snake, too. Even though Metal Gear started on NES, he's a playstation character. Through and through.
You guys ready for sol badguy in smash?
Sakurai getting all them fighters in, bring on Heihachi too
Sakurai getting all them fighters in, bring on Heihachi too
I'll reiterate that I don't think the dividing line between SMT and Persona is as concrete as most seem to imply, and SMT is pretty much best buddies with Nintendo.
This one I have no rebuttal for, I admit, though I would argue that Brawl is not Ultimate's DLC. Even if legacy with Nintendo ends up not being the end-all-be-all, I do think it's going to give you a leg up unless you're a huge icon like Snake or, say, Master Chief, who might not need it.
I forgot Sakurai actually owned an Opa-Opa figure. How come nobody ever reps Fantasy Zone for Smash?
Seems like Sakurai is a fan of shoot em ups ;)
I forgot Sakurai actually owned an Opa-Opa figure. How come nobody ever reps Fantasy Zone for Smash?
Acknowledging SMT by not acknowledging SMT is a pretty funny way of doing it.
Yeeeeah, I'll admit that there being no goddamned demons anywhere in sight is a bit of a snag.
I forgot Sakurai actually owned an Opa-Opa figure. How come nobody ever reps Fantasy Zone for Smash?
I've been pro-Opa Opa in the past, usually when shmup choices came up. They're a good, unique fit thanks to having legs and such that can make them a more natural choice for a fighter. Usually Twinbee gets more support though, and admittedly, if I'm going to be supporting a SEGA series there's a loooot in line before Fantasy Zone makes it. In fact, I'd even go as far as to say that a different SEGA shooter, Space Harrier, should totally get a mii gunner costume at least.
I actually do have that Opa Opa figure myself though! It's a real cute little thing and the wings can wiggle about and such. I usually use the 16t accessory as a counter weight for other figures stands.
I accidentally clicked on the first page and found this:
Ryce was the real leaker all along
I'd be okay with a new Pokémon, not only cause this new gen's designs are absolutely godlike (and because Toxtricity is obviously a lock), but because the music is some of the best in a Pokémon game ever and we'd get some bangers on actual tournament legal stages.
I know this is late but I'm just catching up on the thread. Isn't the part where Sothis is like "ah, so that's how you plan to win the day!" Also from TH?
That support is usually just from me. So it's pretty much one supporter versus none, which is technically more, but not really by much.
I feel like more often than not a few people usually agree with the choice. It helps that Twinbee has arms and legs, compared to Opa Opa's just legs. It's a lot easier to imagine their movements and using items and such that way.
I think the recent random spirit events with RE and Astral Chain represent series that were in consideration for season 2 of DLC that didn't make the cut.
I base that off of absolutely nothing but speculation. Those events seemed very random as others tended to coincide more with a recent release.
So, I think we're getting a Capcom character in season pass 2. With RE out of the running I think it leaves 3 realistic possibilities.
Monster Hunter
Phoenix Wright
Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
I think it can be any one of these. I'm gonna go with Phoenix Wright
Astral Chain event happened months after release, likely when I feel like season pass 2 was completely finalized. We still haven't got Ring Fit Adventure spirits. If the months go by and we still don't get anything, I think Ring Fit Trainer is in the next pass. Just seems odd they haven't done spirits for a 100% Nintendo owned new ip that's been an absolute runaway hit. Maybe they'll come way later like Astral Chain did. Who knows? But for now, I feel that character is a safe bet for the next pass
Just my baseless speculation.
I base that off of absolutely nothing but speculation. Those events seemed very random as others tended to coincide more with a recent release.
So, I think we're getting a Capcom character in season pass 2. With RE out of the running I think it leaves 3 realistic possibilities.
Monster Hunter
Phoenix Wright
Dante from the Devil May Cry Series
I think it can be any one of these. I'm gonna go with Phoenix Wright
Astral Chain event happened months after release, likely when I feel like season pass 2 was completely finalized. We still haven't got Ring Fit Adventure spirits. If the months go by and we still don't get anything, I think Ring Fit Trainer is in the next pass. Just seems odd they haven't done spirits for a 100% Nintendo owned new ip that's been an absolute runaway hit. Maybe they'll come way later like Astral Chain did. Who knows? But for now, I feel that character is a safe bet for the next pass
Just my baseless speculation.
In general, probably Sora, Crash, and Dante. Maybe Chief since he's the the face of MS. I still find it funny that there's almost no talk about Sony and most people relegate Crash as the Sony rep.
Thunder force is one of the few series I went out of my way to play after hearing music from it. Ys was another which became my favorite series of all time
Plus the game 'Rainbow Bell Adventures' provides a nice base for a Smash moveset as it places them in a platformer, which is one of the closest genre to Smash moveset wise.
But reading into their history I have learnt the series' history in the States is rather rocky - not only do the Americas have far less releases than anywhere else, but the games they did get don't even use the Twinbee name most of the time!
Simply because people don't consider it possible. Master Chief only became a possibility after Microsoft started putting non-Minecraft games on Switch, but few expect Sony to be open to such a thing.
Kratos would break the internet harder than anything this side of a non-VG character.
Which SEGA character can we package that music with?
Swordsman crying be damned put Adol in smash I want to fight to these songs.
Also put him in the fastest speed tier
Also put him in the fastest speed tier
Anyone from SEGAGAGA. (skip to 3:06 for the Thunderforce part)
So technically Sonic could already bring it in, but also a character from Phantasy Star, Panzer Dragoon, Alex Kidd, House of the Dead, Golden Axe, Fantasy Zone, uh... SEGA Bass Fishing...
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