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Which event do you think we would see 6th character reveal at?

  • General Direct (in Feb)

    Votes: 93 25.8%
  • General Direct (in March)

    Votes: 45 12.5%
  • E3

    Votes: 173 47.9%
  • Random Smash Presentation before E3

    Votes: 50 13.9%

  • Total voters
    361
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DrArchon

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Oct 25, 2017
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FP5 is "kinda sorta" a Nintendo character, in that they're not actually a first party character but are associated with them. It's "apparently a weird situation".

Speculation has mainly centered around third party characters heavily associated with Nintendo like Travis Touchdown, Phoenix Wright, or Professor Layton among others, with a notable Geno contingent because...well...Geno.
I feel like "it's a weird situation" would disqualify someone like Phoenix.

Yeah, he's known for being on Nintendo systems, but those games are still 100% done by Capcom and frequently appear on other systems now. That's not particularly weird, that's just a 3rd party series with a preference for Nintendo systems.
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
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Jun 9, 2019
18,290
I feel like "it's a weird situation" would disqualify someone like Phoenix.

Yeah, he's known for being on Nintendo systems, but those games are still 100% done by Capcom and frequently appear on other systems now. That's not particularly weird, that's just a 3rd party series with a preference for Nintendo systems.
In fairness, the "it's a weird situation" thing might just be Zippo's personal interpretation based on being told something vague like that it's "kinda sorta first-party, but not really," since he's evidently hearing this from other people more in-the-know.

Frankly, we just don't have enough of a set of criteria to narrow things down very much.
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
In fairness, the "it's a weird situation" thing might just be Zippo's personal interpretation based on being told something vague like that it's "kinda sorta first-party, but not really," since he's evidently hearing this from other people more in-the-know.

Frankly, we just don't have enough of a set of criteria to narrow things down very much.
True enough, though again in the case of Phoenix I'm not sure anyone would legit think those games are "kinda sorta first party." Again, it's just Capcom here. Everyone should know that.

But you're right. We just don't know enough.
 

wedl

Member
Oct 26, 2017
598
I feel like "it's a weird situation" would disqualify someone like Phoenix.

Yeah, he's known for being on Nintendo systems, but those games are still 100% done by Capcom and frequently appear on other systems now. That's not particularly weird, that's just a 3rd party series with a preference for Nintendo systems.
tbf, no more heroes has appeared on other systems before, but nintendo is a bit more hands-on with it compared to AA
 

Lord Vatek

Avenger
Jan 18, 2018
21,513
Honestly there are no characters who I could legitimately see someone describe as "sort of first-party" unless they were trying to be deliberately obtuse. Not even Geno.
 

DrArchon

Member
Oct 25, 2017
15,485
Honestly there are no characters who I could legitimately see someone describe as "sort of first-party" unless they were trying to be deliberately obtuse. Not even Geno.
Geno's probably the closest just because yeah Square Enix owns him but they can't do anything with Nintendo seeing as he's a Mario character. At that point, the distinctions that consumers care about break down.
 

BRSxIgnition

Community Resettler
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Oct 25, 2017
1,596
Wouldn't 'Sort-of First Party' cover series like:
  • Fire Emblem
  • Pokemon
  • Advance Wars
  • Professor Layton
  • Chibi Robo
... too?

They're all developed by non-internal Nintendo devs but remain bound to Nintendo systems.
 

Hailinel

Shamed a mod for a tag
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Oct 27, 2017
35,527
Honestly, Zippo's comments were vague enough that I'm not going to rule anyone out specifically. I'd rather just wait and see and not wring my hands endlessly trying to interpret information that was incomplete by his own admission.

Also, I just want to give him a damn break.
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 9, 2019
18,290
Honestly, Zippo's comments were vague enough that I'm not going to rule anyone out specifically. I'd rather just wait and see and not wring my hands endlessly trying to interpret information that was incomplete by his own admission.

Also, I just want to give him a damn break.
Yeah, pretty much the only characters I'm ruling out (and even then, not definitively) are characters who are very obviously completely separate from Nintendo. Characters like Dante, for example, who predominately exist in a multiplatform capacity, or characters closely linked to other publishers, like Sony. Beyond that? Eh, no clue, and it's probably better that way.
 

MondoMega

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 10, 2018
47,474
It's pretty obvious; Chibi-Robo will get in as the next Bandai rep. A kinda-sorta Nintendo character that doesn't belong entirely to them.
 

Xwing

Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer
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Nov 11, 2017
9,879
Well, if you believe Zippo, KOS-MOS is the one and only character it absolutely isn't.

No offense to Zippo, but this is why I can't take whatever their source is saying seriously. Being willing to hard deconfirm a character without just coming out and saying who the character actually is is fishy to me.

To humor this whole rigamaroll though, my guess (based on my own bias) that fits the "clues" would be Shantae or Geno. Travis also kind of fits oddly enough. I'm completely neutral on Travis as I've never played a NMH game, but if he happens I'm sure he'll be fun.
 

Hailinel

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Oct 27, 2017
35,527
I'm honestly not even going to rule out KOS-MOS, because she still fits in terms of being a third-party character that's associated with Nintendo.
 

Neoxon

Spotlighting Black Excellence - Diversity Analyst
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Oct 25, 2017
85,376
Houston, TX
Honestly, Zippo's comments were vague enough that I'm not going to rule anyone out specifically. I'd rather just wait and see and not wring my hands endlessly trying to interpret information that was incomplete by his own admission.

Also, I just want to give him a damn break.
This, we'd be no better than SmashBoards if we endlessly try to piece together what Zippo said when they specifically said not to read too much into it. Let's just wait for Thursday.
 

Strat

Member
Apr 8, 2018
13,331
I'm thanking a merciful God we got these vague hints two days before the announcement and not 2 months before.
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 9, 2019
18,290
This, we'd be no better than SmashBoards if we endlessly try to piece together what Zippo said when they specifically said not to read too much into it. Let's just wait for Thursday.
At the same time, we're not exactly going to abandon this thread and go full radio silence until Thursday, and there aren't a whole lot of other breadcrumbs at the moment, since Nintendo seems to have done a good job patching their leaks this go-around. Discussing it is cool as long as we all keep in mind that this is all very, very tentative.

i.e. No one be a piece of shit and call out Zippo if none of this pans out.
 

Hikari

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
23,695
Elysium
I'm honestly not even going to rule out KOS-MOS, because she still fits in terms of being a third-party character that's associated with Nintendo.

he's been pretty up front and honest about her saying maybe down the line. I'm not sure what I should believe anymore. I just know that KOS-MOS's XB2 version could fit that description. Best not to get hopes up though honestly. It's probably Euden or some shit.
 

mopinks

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Oct 27, 2017
30,577
They are owned by Nintendo.
maybe you didn't hear the good news
it's time
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Xwing

Unshakable Resolve - One Winged Slayer
Member
Nov 11, 2017
9,879
Just shuffled my deck of Smash characters and drew a card. Heart of the cards still points to Dante as Fighter 5. It's been wrong in the past, but I find it most fun to trust the heart of the cards and see what happens.
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 9, 2019
18,290
Just shuffled my deck of Smash characters and drew a card. Heart of the cards still points to Dante as Fighter 5. It's been wrong in the past, but I find it most fun to trust the heart of the cards and see what happens.
I'd tell you the evidence points to you being wrong, and that you should give up on the Heart of the Cards, but I'm pretty sure that's how every Yu-Gi-Oh villain lost.
 

MondoMega

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jan 10, 2018
47,474
"I surveyed the employees of Bandai Namco to ask who they wanted to see in Smash from their company, to represent the hard work they've put into working on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. To my surprise, Chibi-Robo was the character that won out in our internal ballot, and getting the approval of Bandai and Nintendo was very simple!"
 

lvl 99 Pixel

Member
Oct 25, 2017
44,698
I guess the longer video could be explained by having to explain the various styles that Dante can use...
probably happening I guess :S
 

Melpomene

One Winged Slayer
Member
Jun 9, 2019
18,290
"I surveyed the employees of Bandai Namco to ask who they wanted to see in Smash from their company, to represent the hard work they've put into working on Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. To my surprise, Chibi-Robo was the character that won out, and getting the approval of Bandai and Nintendo was very simple!"
I really like the idea that, of all the characters Bandai works with - and they work with a fuck of a lot - Chibi-Robo is somehow their favorite of all time.


As he should be.

I guess the longer video could be explained by having to explain the various styles that Dante can use...
probably happening I guess :S
Eh, he's probably just going to play through an entire Classic mode again.
 
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