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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread | The Wild Ride is still on!

I always find the meta game of fakes interesting. You have to think there's people making these wanting to go full believability by making very conservative leaks or some where they throw in a wild swerve that sounds crazy but juuuuust believable enough that it's consistant with past announcements and reveals. And then there's some people who just don't try whatsoever. They're so boring.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't entirely buy this one at all (just from the content alone) because I think 3.0 will have a bit more to it than that: Mii Costume Wave 1 (pretty likely), an online sharing function for Mii Fighters and Custom Stages (fairly possible; it was in Smash 4) and Smash World integration (has to happen at some point).
Oh my God, I completely forgot about Smash World.

What the fuck happened to that? Splatoon's mobile stuff came out super fast.
 
Oct 17, 2018
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The pose feels like it's trying to evoke the victory screen of Persona 5:



It's not a straight rip but for whatever reason they decided he would be posed like this. I doubt there would be a reason to have this specific pose in-game (maybe as a victory screen).
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Duel Smash sounds stupid enough for this to be real. I get people were missing the For Glory set up but that doesn't mean that we just want FD stages at least have BF for fucks sake.

Actually if we can switch characters again then maybe it won't be so bad still though it would be Nintendo to think people finding For Glory to be superior to the current Quickplay/Elite Smash set up to just bring it back and not even attempt to update it
 
Oct 25, 2017
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That "leaked" screen looks pretty awful -- like, it doesn't even remotely resemble Smash Bros.
yeah, I have no idea what's going on there

I assume it's supposed to be on the new stage, so I guess that red line is the ground and the rest of the details are background? then there's Joker in kind of an awkward pose facing the camera, and there's no other fighters on screen
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I'm genuinely curious as to why some people prefer FD over BF
No one who actually plays competitive Smash thinks FD is the best stage. Hell not even Battlefield is that good of a stage especially in Ultimate. Comp players prefer Pokemon Stadium 2 and Smashville and in some regions have rulesets that have Final Destination as a counterpick meaning that Final Destination fails so badly at being a neutral stage that some are willing to put it under stages that are too disruptive and polarizing to be considered neutral.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Why would Joker's stage be (P5 spoilers) set in a location that's ostensibly a massive spoiler to the game? Has any Smash game ever spoiled the final boss of a game like that?

I don't buy it.
To be fair unless you already played the game you wouldn't really understand the context of the Holy Grail. With that said it would be weird for them to go with Mementos and not just use the actual Mementos. It's weird they're using a fairly late game area for the stage when they've never really done that before. Hell we don't even have a Bowser's Castle stage closest we've got otherwise is Rainbow Road
 
Oct 17, 2018
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To be fair unless you already played the game you wouldn't really understand the context of the Holy Grail. With that said it would be weird for them to go with Mementos and not just use the actual Mementos. It's weird they're using a fairly late game area for the stage when they've never really done that before. Hell we don't even have a Bowser's Castle stage closest we've got otherwise is Rainbow Road
They used Wily Castle for Mega Man.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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So, when Home-Run Contest is added, do you think it and Mob Smash will be merged into a Stadium sub-menu (possibly joined by a few other modes in the future, like Boss Battles) or would it just take up a separate slot on the Games & More menu?
I think it depends on how many more modes they decide to add throughout the rest of the DLC cycle; if it's just Home-Run Contest, they could slot it into the Play row like they did with Stage Builder on the Edit row, but if they add more modes under Games and More (likely, imo), I think they'd condense some under a sub-menu
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not going to over analyse that image, this was something I noticed from a quick glance



  • The Joker render is pretty much 1:1 identical to the size of the Best Buy leak (took it from this pic)
  • The bottom of the screenshot seems to cut into the render (bottom circle)
  • You can see some white from a bad cut out job (top circle). Someone with access to proper marketing materials would have a PNG to use.
  • And in general around that area it just looks like the hair is more faded out rather than neatly cut out (hence the bottom of the screenshot leaking in)
 
Oct 25, 2017
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A fun comparison with the other 3rd party characters:
  • Snake - Shadow Moses Island = the entire game of MGS1 takes place there, so it's hard to call it a late game area. Ray and the Gekkos could be spoilers for 4 though
  • Sonic - Green Hill Zone/Windy Hill Zone = the first stages of their respective games
  • Mega Man - Wily's Castle = it's always the last part of any game it's in, but the series is old enough to avoid spoiler talk
  • Pac-Man - Pac Maze/Pac-Land = lol
  • Ryu - Suzaku Castle = not a late game area
  • Cloud - Midgar = not a later game area
  • Bayonetta - Umbra Clocktower = 1st setpiece in the game
  • Simon/Richter - Dracula's Castle = the throne room is the final level of Castlevania, but it references all of the earlier bosses and the game is old enough to by immune to spoilers
 
Oct 17, 2018
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I don't feel this is all that comparable. Porky having a spider mech has been his thing since Earthbound, even if this is the Mother 3 variant. The Smash stage as it's described though gives away one of the biggest twists about Persona 5.
Porky being the main villain of Mother 3 is a huge spoiler. You don't learn this until the last chapter. This applies to the New Pork City stage as well.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I don't feel this is all that comparable. Porky having a spider mech has been his thing since Earthbound, even if this is the Mother 3 variant. The Smash stage as it's described though gives away one of the biggest twists about Persona 5.
The stage is a giveaway too. New Pork is the final area of Mother 3 and Brawl released the year after Mother 3 did.
 
I don't feel this is all that comparable. Porky having a spider mech has been his thing since Earthbound, even if this is the Mother 3 variant. The Smash stage as it's described though gives away one of the biggest twists about Persona 5.
Porky being in Mother 3 is a spoiler in itself, and New Pork City is a late-game area.

You asked if Smash has ever featured a super spoiler-filled area or a end-game boss, and they have done exactly that.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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The wording of that japanese text (what isn't really blurry) makes me doubt it's real. I can't find a single other hit in google showing Smash Bros' cast described as "ビデオゲームのすばらしいアイコン" for example. It's usually just "ゲーム", "Video Game" isn't widely used in Japan even if it's not exactly wrong. Also, although using "icon" for iconic characters isn't unknown in Japan, it's not nearly as common as in the West. Most hits for "すばらしいアイコン" are just for good pc/mobile icons (as in symbols/images for programs, not iconic characters and such).
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Porky being the main villain of Mother 3 is a huge spoiler. You don't learn this until the last chapter. This applies to the New Pork City stage as well.
Fair enough. That being said, given Mementos is a multi-layered world it seems antithetical to go "hey let's go with the area that has the big twist attached to it" considering Atlus are noted spoilerphobes.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Not going to over analyse that image, this was something I noticed from a quick glance



  • The Joker render is pretty much 1:1 identical to the size of the Best Buy leak (took it from this pic)
  • The bottom of the screenshot seems to cut into the render (bottom circle)
  • You can see some white from a bad cut out job (top circle). Someone with access to proper marketing materials would have a PNG to use.
  • And in general around that area it just looks like the hair is more faded out rather than neatly cut out (hence the bottom of the screenshot leaking in)
The bad cut out job and same size image is a good catch. Definitely leaning me towards fake.

Also the fact that the image composition just doesn't make much sense. And is blurry.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Finally, some interesting claims.

Not sure what that picture is or how to test it, so I'll focus on text.

Duel Smash sounds dumb and against design of preference matchmaking, but I can't rule that out.

What sounds peculiar to me is "no third party stage parts" or whatever that was. If these are based on "portable" elements of stages, few third party ones would exist, but some do - Windy Hill has the spring which sounds like one of easiest things to implement. At the same time this limitation applies to loads of non-guest stage elements as well, so it would be simpler to say "selected franchises get parts". If the parts are made from scratch, then it's surprising that no guest franchise got any, unless, again, very few series get them in the first place, but then, again, why would one single out third parties.

Leaning towards fake based on this.
 
May 9, 2018
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That leak’s interesting. Hope that it’s right about franchise elements being included in stage builder. Each major franchise as its own palette a la Mario Maker?

They really do need to have a way to share stages online though, it would be a weird downgrade from Wii U. And I’m also hoping for a Mii costume set that includes some of my favorites from Smash 4 like Geno and Protoman.

Not really related, but what do people want Joker’s alt colors to be? My two ideas were colors corresponding to the different Phantom Thieves, or palettes that reference other Persona protagonists. The possibility of the “Jane” datamine does throw a wrench in that though. It’ll be interesting to see!