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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate Downloadable Contents Discussion Thread | The Wild Ride is still on!
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I know this is a joke post, but it should be noted that Dragon Quest III would be outside the time period of January 1989-April 2019. It was released in Japan in February of 1988.
(In before someone brings up the Super Famicom release of DQ III.)
I apparently own a sealed copy of DQ V, DQ VI and Chrono Trigger.
All for the DS. I have no clue why I have these games. I'm not one to buy games and never played them. Maybe it was that phase where I stopped caring about videogames, lasted a couple years on the start of the Decade.
Anyways, this is a sign for Crono for Smash.
All for the DS. I have no clue why I have these games. I'm not one to buy games and never played them. Maybe it was that phase where I stopped caring about videogames, lasted a couple years on the start of the Decade.
Anyways, this is a sign for Crono for Smash.
DQ III confirmed unpopular. Erdrick will be cancelled in favor of Crono. 2B will also be a DLC character. The other Fighters Pass characters will be two of the Champions from BotW.
I hope the next dlc fighters are actually obscure Nintendo characters. I want more fighters like Ice Climbers and Piranha Plant.
To be honest people will always twist things to something that they want. Remember chair theory?
Dude deserves a big break, let him do whatever he wants to do.
See, this is the reason why i'm an advocate of choosing by franchisee instead of game company.
I won't be surprised that if the remaining fighters pass consisted of Capcom and SQ, you would still get a lot of iconic characters and still have enough for multiple passes. Why focus on other game companies which have literally nothing to lend?
Capcom and Square Enix do have plenty of character they could include in Smash.
But so does Bandai Namco. And Konami. And Sega/Atlus. And Microsoft (there wouldn't be so many arguments over who "the" Microsoft rep should be if that wasn't true). And plenty of other third-party companies out there (Koei Tecmo, Level-5, SNK, FromSoftware, Bethesda, Ubisoft, etc) have characters who people actively support.
The others clearly do have something to lend to Smash.
Anyone from Phantasy Star would make me finally abandon my main, Random, and actually try to git gud with one character. The chances of this happening are nil, fortunately.
Well i'd welcome that too over sword character #4501.
...Although I wouldn't dislike seeing Crono in Smash. >.>
Yea, but my argument was more towards people who argued that certain game franchisees deserved a bigger chance because the third party hasn't been represented. I'll take 2B/Dante/Sora/RE rep over KOF/NG any time of the day.
I won't have an issue if the franchise raised have shown that they're heavily requested and/or stands in the forefront of people's minds (like cloud).
Also Mondo - just curious but do you feel that we'll even be getting multiple western IPs? Cause you did raise multiple firms (Bethesda, Ubisoft).
It would be a nice compromise for the "Goku in Smash" people. Since the same guy designed both characters.
Toriyama was the guy who helped out Chrono Trigger, Dragon Quest, and Blue Dragon, right
Believe it or not but for me it actually is Erdrick. I love Dragon Quest. Such a charming franchise. It's also way overdue for some Smash representation.
I'm secretly hoping for obscure characters too.
I was hyped af for Simon Belmont and King K. Rool. And now that I have the game? I don't play as them. They're not fun. I like playing as the weird characters I thought I would hate. Piranha Plant & incineroar. I was actually kind of hyped by that Machrider rumor from a while ago. It was such an oddball choice lol.
I'll take Captain Rainbow, Epona, and a Custom Robo before another Xenoblade or Fire Emblem character. I think they've proven if they have a vision for something fun and weird, it's better than a fanservice character.
For Ultimate or in any future Smash instalments? In the case of the former, i'm only expecting a Microsoft rep for the Fighters Pass. I think we'll see a few more beyond that in potential future iterations of Smash, but they will be few and far between (like maybe two or three more; from the small group of Microsoft (again), Ubisoft, Bethesda or Activision Blizzard).
Banjo and Doomguy are two of my most-wanted characters, but I can really only see one of them happening in this Smash (unfortunately).
Tails, Sora, Neku, Master Chief and Lloyd Irving.
Off the top of my head anyway.
I dunno; Sugiyama may be human scum, but Dragon Quest has some pretty good music (well, the orchestral versions of the music at least, in the case of the post-SNES games).
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There's a bit of overlap between my predictions and wishlist:
Expect: Erdrick, Crash, Heihachi and Jibanyan
Want: Crash, Heihachi, Rayman, Banjo, Dixie Kong and Wonder Red (the last two I gave up hope completely, sadly :/ )
Joker is such a ridiculously well designed DLC character, bias aside.
Like everyone made jokes about him being busted on launch but they actually tried to ensure he wouldn't be overtuned. Tried too much, I think, because the hitboxes on his normals are so damn precise and can whiff pretty easily, lmao.
I should have been posting here and soaking up the hype after his release...
Like everyone made jokes about him being busted on launch but they actually tried to ensure he wouldn't be overtuned. Tried too much, I think, because the hitboxes on his normals are so damn precise and can whiff pretty easily, lmao.
I should have been posting here and soaking up the hype after his release...
I'm really not surprised by the amount of effort put into Joker; Sakurai's love from the game (especially it's UI) would have pushed him and the team to put a lot of work, effort and attention into him.
I just hope the rest of the Fighters Pass can live up to Joker; i'm a bit afraid that they won't.
I just hope the rest of the Fighters Pass can live up to Joker; i'm a bit afraid that they won't.
Jill being built off of Joker would make sense, although I don't know why they'd start her development with a ponytail alt instead of her default look
My biggest wants are Dixie Kong, Elma, Impa, Phoenix Wright, Layton, and Doomguy. Only one of those who I see having a chance this go around is Layton, and even then I think that's an incredibly small chance.
I feel like the problem with going too obscure is that they'd generally be a tough sell as DLC. Even with Piranha Plant, it was both a freebie for early adopters & was clearly supposed to be in the base roster. Overall, I'm of the opinion that obscure picks like Mach Rider are better served for the base roster where they don't have to sell on their own merits & have other big characters to shoulder the burden of bringing in hype.
Vaanrose has responded to wildvine's Jill theory on Smashboards - I'll just link to it here instead of weighing in with anything extra, because hell if I actually have any knowledge or authority on this beyond following it maybe a little too closely.
https://smashboards.com/threads/ult...vision-edition.467706/page-4653#post-23252638
https://smashboards.com/threads/ult...vision-edition.467706/page-4653#post-23252638
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2B and Shantae would be the two I want the absolute most.(that haven't already been decomfirmed otherwise add Ashley and Rex on top of that.)
And I'm always looking for a new Zelda character.
We can get a better idea if it's Joker related at the concert if we see new girls thief look and Persona(if it's shown.)
If it looks like it could work as a swap for Joker and Arsene we'll have a better idea.
If it looks like it could work as a swap for Joker and Arsene we'll have a better idea.
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Her look has less to do with it. But mainly it'll be her weapons and persona
If she even has those and doesn't just end up being a "Marie type" addition
Hence why I said "if" it's shown.
And I'm really hoping she's not a Marie type character. That'd be such a let down after that tease.
And I say that as someone who likes Marie.
Maybe Joker is strangely short and has tiny feet to accommodate for Jane?
Although it didn't really matter for Marth->Lucina and they ended up just making Lucina taller in Ultimate anyway
Although it didn't really matter for Marth->Lucina and they ended up just making Lucina taller in Ultimate anyway
Not impossible, but my gut feeling is that she looks way too generic (not to mention reminiscent of P3P's FeMC) to be one of Atlus's Metis/Marie/Rin-type rerelease characters. Besides a few small cosmetic additions that reflect the game's visual style (red bow and shoes), her uniform--like Joker's--is as generic as it gets, which is generally the standard for Persona protagonists and no-one else.
Given that we've also apparently eliminated every possibility for 'Jane' in Smash bar the Royal girl, it also seems unlikely that they would have worked on her as a Joker skin if she didn't have reason to act in an extremely similar fashion to him.
If people got too much hope from that tease, then thats them riling themselves up. Nothing in that tease suggests anything for her
I am not saying its not gonna happen. Just if that ends up being all it being, then fans only have themselves to blame from hyping themselves up into thinking it was something more
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I take it the other way. It can be whatever. The point is, "baked vertex shift" file, by its very nature, cannot be "codeveloped" between Joker and "Jane", so one file being next to another is most likely coincidental.
Right now I'm leaning into the theory that Jane is going to be a DLC costume or echo that was originally planned for release alongside Joker, but was postponed based on Atlus taking their sweet time actually revealing them.
The fact that they dragged their feet on the Joker reveal, only to shadowdrop the 3.0 update (despite Nintendo usually taking a week to alert people for the sake of replays) makes me wonder whether or not things changed in the last minute.
The fact that they dragged their feet on the Joker reveal, only to shadowdrop the 3.0 update (despite Nintendo usually taking a week to alert people for the sake of replays) makes me wonder whether or not things changed in the last minute.
If she was a costume or echo, and was completed. There was 0 reason not to wait until this week to release if they were waiting for Atlus to reveal her Wednesday. If she is still going to release, it only means she wouldn't have been ready anyway.
I don't think she's releasing this week. She'd probably be some kind of smaller May update that fixes some bugs and adds her to keep Ultimate hype going between major character reveals.
It's also a holiday week in Japan, a poor time to release a major update
Since I actually played through Xenoblade X recently (my original plan was to play through it before Ultimate's release in case of spoilers lol) I could join this………
………but now I shall stan for my personal Xenoblade X avatar for Smash.
There's a lot of possible reasons they may have released Joker early in spite of the concert. Maybe it's because whatever they'll reveal at the concert wouldn't constitute a sufficient enough reveal to include the content. Maybe they want more time to advertise "Jane" before she can be inducted into Smash. Maybe Nintendo literally mandated the DLC to be released early because of how long it took and how impatient people were getting. Maybe they wanted the Easter update out early because they're having an Investors meeting next week, or perhaps avoiding content release during Golden Week.
Its just more of a hassle to release two updates so close to each other
Just feel people are grasping way too hard and gonna end up being disappointed
You know other then being the central focus of the teaser(something Marie never got), standing in the same spot as the protagonist from the his first reveal, and looking far to plain to be a party memember or confidant.
But your right it's all my fault and there no reason to expect a tease from a teaser.
Yes. I was talking to Meshima about how there is no evidence to the claim that Joker is based on Cloud (from that one rumor), to which he responded that in earlier builds Joker only really took directly from plant because they shared the same frame data on lots of moves.
Though mind you it's completely different than the Jane situation. Joker just had the same integer values for frame data as Plant did. As my good friend Vaanrose said, Jane is likely directly connected to Joker. I'm interested to see what comes up out of it myself.
We had an update the week before the Joker drop, and that was to add Amiibo support. I don't really think they care about the "hassle" of back to back updates.
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