Heath, I need to know something real quickAh, I see. I was under the impression that Dragon Quest XIII was quite popular awhile ago.
So maybeSo going over what Imran (who is apparently credible?) and Vergeben have said we can expect:
- Incineroar
- Isabelle
- Ken
All of these are from Vergeben
While Imran implied that we'll see more Namco and Square characters,
- Heihachi with Jin/Kazuya Echo
- Square character, maybe Zack Fair as an Echo of Cloud?
And then there's the possibility of Skull Kid, as well as characters like Elma, Dixie, and Bandanna Dee.
Honest question. Has Sakurai ever stated that he chose not to include a character because they aren't popular or well-known in Japan? I believe he's said that in the other direction.
Obviously when 99% of the cast are Japanese designs and the remainder are still from franchises that have their origins in Japan then the focus on Japanese gaming doesn't really need to be stated, but I'm just wondering if he's ever explicitly stated that.
There are a number of FF characters that could be a Cloud echo, I suppose. Zack could work.So going over what Imran (who is apparently credible?) and Vergeben have said we can expect:
- Incineroar
- Isabelle
- Ken
All of these are from Vergeben
While Imran implied that we'll see more Namco and Square characters,
- Heihachi with Jin/Kazuya Echo
- Square character, maybe Zack Fair as an Echo of Cloud?
And then there's the possibility of Skull Kid, as well as characters like Elma, Dixie, and Bandanna Dee.
I kind of want Lincoln too. He's by far my favorite president. He stands for more than just a video game character for me.I liked the concept of Codename STEAM so I'd be in for Lincoln.
Startropics!Whenever he says something like this he's talking about some Japanese character which never came overseas, so naturally he wouldn't have any chance to talk about the reverse cause examples of the reverse barely exist. How many Nintendo games never released in Japan but did in other territories, if any?
Whenever he says something like this he's talking about some Japanese character which never came overseas, so naturally he wouldn't have any chance to talk about the reverse cause examples of the reverse barely exist. How many Nintendo games never released in Japan but did in other territories, if any?
*Sakurai voice* "For those that have played Final Fantasy VII, you'll know that perhaps Cloud himself is the real Echo Fighter here..."- Heihachi with Jin/Kazuya Echo
- Square character, maybe Zack Fair as an Echo of Cloud?
And then there's the possibility of Skull Kid, as well as characters like Elma, Dixie, and Bandanna Dee.
I keep seeing people suggest Sephiroth as an echo, but I don't think that would work well at all. Just the difference in the types of swords they use would immediately make it weird. But also Sephiroth has different moves.There are a number of FF characters that could be a Cloud echo, I suppose. Zack could work.
Can you imagine a universe where Sephiroth and Shadow are both in Smash as Echo Fighters?
I think the world might implode from all of that edge.
Metal Combat!Whenever he says something like this he's talking about some Japanese character which never came overseas, so naturally he wouldn't have any chance to talk about the reverse cause examples of the reverse barely exist. How many Nintendo games never released in Japan but did in other territories, if any?
Zack wouldn't count, if he was counting echoes in his count it would have been 3,2,1,1 not 2,2,1,1So going over what Imran (who is apparently credible?) and Vergeben have said we can expect:
- Incineroar
- Isabelle
- Ken
All of these are from Vergeben
While Imran implied that we'll see more Namco and Square characters,
- Heihachi with Jin/Kazuya Echo
- Square character, maybe Zack Fair as an Echo of Cloud?
And then there's the possibility of Skull Kid, as well as characters like Elma, Dixie, and Bandanna Dee.
*Sakurai voice* "For those that have played Final Fantasy VII, you'll know that perhaps Cloud himself is the real Echo Fighter here..."
oh no i can see it happening
(It'll be Geno or DQ.)
Zack wouldn't count, if he was counting echoes in his count it would have been 3,2,1,1 not 2,2,1,1
I heard a rumor from this guy at work called Retro dan that retro is rebooting star tropics.
I honestly think that Imran may just be doing this for funsies because he knows we do this everytime.Why are people talking Echoes when Imran made it clear that he doesn't consider them new characters by saying there are only 2 Konami reps?
Doom Guy/Slayer is 100% worthy of being in Smash.Even if we dont get master chief for some silly reason, we could get Doom Guy as DLC.
Highly influential, classic character, worldwide icon (not that sure about japan though) and as of now he finally has history with Nintendo.
I feel like he is the only character from a western fps that has a chance higher than 1%.
Imran knows inside stuff. He's shown it in the past.How could Imran know about more characters than anyone else though? He has some final Smash code?
He is cousins with reggie.How could Imran know about more characters than anyone else though? He has some final Smash code?
Days of Ruin?How many Nintendo games never released in Japan but did in other territories, if any?
If Square wasn't so weird I'd say we could get both Zack and Geno... but with them being who they are I'd say we'd be lucky to get one, and if Sakurai is going to go through the trouble he might as well go for Geno.*Sakurai voice* "For those that have played Final Fantasy VII, you'll know that perhaps Cloud himself is the real Echo Fighter here..."
oh no i can see it happening
(It'll be Geno or DQ.)
Yeah, I know. I'm just saying he isn't making his game to appeal only to Japanese audiences, even if he is using Japanese created IP (and Western created characters for Japanese created IP like Diddy Kong, King K. Rool, and Dark Samus).
Although the inclusion of the Shovel Knight Assist Trophy does make me think we will see a Western Created IP playable in Smash one day.
Doom Guy/Slayer is 100% worthy of being in Smash.
He's become a big request recently, so hopefully he gets in as DLC.
it took ten years for Balloon Kid to come out in Japan and when it finally did it was only released through the Nintendo Power service
that's enough to classify it as a western exclusive in my eyes
Let's not forget that one of his big motivators was the death of his pet rabbit.Doomguy would have no problem fighting characters like Bowser and Bayonetta, but the guys a big softie when it comes to bunnys and cute things (like the collectible dolls in doom2016)
His role in the story (if there is one) could be pretty funny
Finally, Mickey Mouse stands tall on the same field as his fellow echo Shadow the Hedgehog.
It sucks so much that Sakurai likes Geno and Geno has a big push for him. I'd rather have so many other Square characters over Geno, but I know in my heart if Sakurai can only get one more Square rep, then he's going for Geno.
it took ten years for Balloon Kid to come out in Japan and when it finally did it was only released through the Nintendo Power service
that's enough to classify it as a western exclusive in my eyes
Heath, I need to know something real quick
is Trump gonna be re-elected in your present/our future?
I didn't say he was doing that. I'm saying that the idea of a third party character completely alienating to Japan seems unlikely. He detailed before how third party picks for him are pretty strict, need to have history (and a Nintendo appearance) and he won't add anyone -- this + the current roster I think it's kinda telling about how bigger the chances always are for the big 6 japanese console companies.
Masahiro Sakurai said:While it's true that we've added characters from other companies, it's not going to be anyone and everyone. Manga characters will not join the battle (obviously).
Smash is a game that's made from everyone's effort. Both companies have to want the character to join the battle. I need them to let me take charge of the character. In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.
The character must carry game history with them. Besides that, it might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the experience of being on a Nintendo platform.
Let's not forget that one of his big motivators was the death of his pet rabbit.
Imagine a victory screen with him just sitting down and petting rabbits, or a CG trailer/cutscene of him trying to pet Pikachu because he thinks he's a rabbit.
It sucks so much that Sakurai likes Geno and Geno has a big push for him. I'd rather have so many other Square characters over Geno, but I know in my heart if Sakurai can only get one more Square rep, then he's going for Geno.
Sora has the second biggest push, but I still see Sakurai picking Geno over Sora.
It sucks so much that Sakurai likes Geno and Geno has a big push for him. I'd rather have so many other Square characters over Geno, but I know in my heart if Sakurai can only get one more Square rep, then he's going for Geno.
Sora has the second biggest push, but I still see Sakurai picking Geno over Sora.