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srtrestre

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Metto

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Would the ESRB have to give rating for promotional material like the 50-Fact Extravaganza? It' s possible that they heard about Mewtwo from that.
I don't know when Wii U was rated but I'm not sure if it was in August which was when the ESRB leak happened. Besides I don't think they'd need information on Mewtwo at that point and it wouldn't affect the rating much and would matter more closer to release so like February 2015
 

TDLink

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Him having sources everywhere but Nintendo would explain a lot, and excuse the blind spots.
Yes, and I would add that leaks from third parties are much more common than from Nintendo. And he clearly has some sort of source or sources inside of Namco based on several of his past leaks.
 

HockeyBird

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It doesn't matter if Verge has one source or many sources. If he is willing to put any info out there, he is saying that he feels confident in that source. When someone gets stuff wrong or are completely missing major information, it hurts their credibility. It's doesn't excuse them. It means their sources are bad or he's flat out lied to.
 

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What did the consensus on the validity of Gematsu end up being? Was their information just from very early in development and later proven wrong, or was it a mix of correct and incorrect sources?
 

TriggerShy

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The biggest argument against Noctis is that Final Fantasy is explicitly listed as "FINAL FANTASY VII" in Smash.

Which I dislike by the way, they're going to say it's Final Fantasy VII and yet Cloud's symbol is just the "FF" instead of the meteor? That's just lame. Almost as much as it having only two tracks.
 

MondoMega

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It would not be rated at the time of when that video was taken.
I don't know when Wii U was rated but I'm not sure if it was in August which was when the ESRB leak happened. Besides I don't think they'd need information on Mewtwo at that point and it wouldn't affect the rating much and would matter more closer to release so like February 2015
Oh yeah right, I forgot that the 50-Facts was so close to release. I wonder how the ESRB leaker was tipped off to Mewtwo then.
 

Metto

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https://smashboards.com/threads/get...-smash-ultimate.446390/page-603#post-22549048

Here's a high quality pic of that fake Isaac render. I think the eyes and eyebrows could be a little sharper but they did a good job.
Honestly I'm shocked it took this long to have a render that would make him look closer to the other anime characters like Fire Emblem and Shulk. The fact that Agnes leak a while back had Agnes on model to the Smash style and had Issac look different to that was weird.
 

MondoMega

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What did the consensus on the validity of Gematsu end up being? Was their information just from very early in development and later proven wrong, or was it a mix of correct and incorrect sources?
The former. He was missing some characters, but all of the information was correct at some point in development (Chrom was confirmed in a magazine (forget if it was his Column or a random interview) and a placeholder file for the Rhythm Heaven series icon was datamined from the Wii U version)
 

Metto

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What did the consensus on the validity of Gematsu end up being? Was their information just from very early in development and later proven wrong, or was it a mix of correct and incorrect sources?
Early planning document info. Makes sense considering what he got and what was missing or was wrong. Especially in the case of Chrom and Chorus Kids which have evidence to being considered for Smash 4 at some point
 

r_n

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A rhythm heaven rep really is the one that got away, huh?
and i bet it passes this game entirely


it's kind of frustrating how often a character really only has one shot at a game and if they miss it well tough luck. But if you're in you're either in or on call for life, no matter how weird yo uare in retrospect.
 

TDLink

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It doesn't matter if Verge has one source or many sources. If he is willing to put any info out there, he is saying that he feels confident in that source. When someone gets stuff wrong or are completely missing major information, it hurts their credibility. It's doesn't excuse them. It means their sources are bad or he's flat out lied to.
I completely disagree that missing information is a negative mark in any way. He has never claimed that the information he is giving out is in any way comprehensive. As it stands, the only bit of wrong info he has yet to give out regarding Smash is Isabelle as an echo, and even that is shakey since he was unsure himself -- and so were most people when they saw her reveal.

For this specific game he has been very very accurate thus far.
 

Metto

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Umm apparently there might be something on the 18th.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77101355


Nintendo of Canada on facebook made a post saying "Come to Arcada MTL, the bar, in Montreal on 10.18 for a very special event."

Nobody can see the post outside of people living in Quebec. Additionally, the post says they can't say what the game is until Wednesday.

Someone (miscdog) DM'd the bar. The bar told him that even THEY don't know what the game is, Nintendo wont' tell them. It's a complete surprise. Nintendo is being secretive, oddly, so it would be weird if it was for something such as Pokemon Let's Go, though there is a chance that it could be possibly anything.

Maybe there will be given an updated demo, and that a new reveal, or direct, will be having a watch party at the bar (and also viewable live on youtube of course, not specifically just at the bar, that'd be silly)

There's not much else reason to be this secretive, or else the bar would know already, they don't even know themselves.

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/480510412693962753/501567423892422666/thursday.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...71359911182384/Screenshot_20181015-214518.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...73240372854794/Screenshot_20181015-215156.png

A post was also added on the bars page saying "3 days remain". Proof: https://www.facebook.com/pg/ArcadeMTL/posts/

I think that on wednesday a direct will be announced and this viewing party will be watching it.

Spread the good word of the Bar theory everyone! Lol
 

TriggerShy

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I bet Square Enix made that a stipulation of the deal.

Hey, I would have been fine with the symbol as long as Cloud represents the entirety of FF, which he still does, but if there can't be any reference outside VII like, the games that actually began on Nintendo systems, then that is disappointing. But it's just a silly pet peeve of mine.
 

Dyle

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I'm just going to leave this here, I'm not sure what I think of it, besides defensively assuming it's nothing. I'd like to be surprised though

Nintendo of Canada is hosting a special event in a bar in Montreal on Thursday. They don't say what the event is about and the bar has said that they don't know what it is, but Nintendo of Canada's post says they'll reveal what it is on Wednesday. Also the bar made a post that said it was 3 days before the event, for any Skull Kid stans out there.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77101355
https://www.facebook.com/events/354889078582986/?active_tab=about
 

Vesper

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I'm just going to leave this here, I'm not sure what I think of it, besides defensively assuming it's nothing. I'd like to be surprised though

Nintendo of Canada is hosting a special event in a bar in Montreal on Thursday. They don't say what the event is about and the bar has said that they don't know what it is, but Nintendo of Canada's post says they'll reveal what it is on Wednesday. Also the bar made a post that said it was 3 days before the event, for any Skull Kid stans out there.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77101355
https://www.facebook.com/events/354889078582986/?active_tab=about


This is mildly interesting...

Direct Thursday confirmed.
 
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Is that a famous bar??? Why would Nintendo care about some random quebecoiss bar?

Even for a demo. I would sooner believe Mcdonalds X Super Smash Bros.
 

TDLink

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I'm just going to leave this here, I'm not sure what I think of it, besides defensively assuming it's nothing. I'd like to be surprised though

Nintendo of Canada is hosting a special event in a bar in Montreal on Thursday. They don't say what the event is about and the bar has said that they don't know what it is, but Nintendo of Canada's post says they'll reveal what it is on Wednesday. Also the bar made a post that said it was 3 days before the event, for any Skull Kid stans out there.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77101355
https://www.facebook.com/events/354889078582986/?active_tab=about
100% this is nothing. No way is Canada getting a scoop on anything Smash.
 

Lordciego

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Just woke up and had a Smash related dream that I have to post just in case I forget about it. It involved an amiibo leak in one retailer besides some smash accessories, it was for amiibo for Incineroar and another one for Ray msomething. I have just looked online and the only Ray M something from Nintendo is the Ray Mkiii from Custom Robot which I see was previously even a Trophy on smash. I don't know anything about Custom Robot apart than it existing so this is now in my newcomer list (even if I know is not going to happen)

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foxuzamaki

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Havent checked the music updates since the plankton one and they added feh music? I cant believe ir lol
 

HockeyBird

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I completely disagree that missing information is a negative mark in any way. He has never claimed that the information he is giving out is in any way comprehensive. As it stands, the only bit of wrong info he has yet to give out regarding Smash is Isabelle as an echo, and even that is shakey since he was unsure himself -- and so were most people when they saw her reveal.

For this specific game he has been very very accurate thus far.

That would never fly in actual journalism. Granted this is just videogames so it's not that big of a deal in the grand scheme. Like I said, him being wish washy gives him an out. He claims he wants to verify his sources being saying who this mysterious Square rep but he is seemingly ok with putting out info that he is unsure about it. Doesn't make sense. He's cagey about certain information because he wants to position himself to being right, no matter the outcome. And who are these sources that have certain specific information, specifically certain fighters, but not others? It would suggest that his sources are second, third or fourth hand accounts. An employee who maybe overheard something about another person getting a glimpse some document that may be related to the development of Smash. And those type of sources are hard to verify.
 
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