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Super Smash Bros. Ultimate |OT| Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny

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r_n

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Is there a route that is easiest to get to those? Those must be the 2 I don't have.
Marth path, beeline for the base, take an easy path through the jungle by Green Switch, cut through the mountain town, clear the way to Galeem through the Space path (the speed run uses the heavens path but meh), black pipe, grab the blue switch and head to the ribbons area, go to the molten fortress, snake around the mountain to the green switch, backtrack to the black pipe, temple of light, then go across the bridge, do the bottom option on the first teleporter path on the pacmaze, work your way to the beach, go to the island, do the rathalos subarea, head back to space area and go fight galeem
Then just beeline through to Marx's area (remember you can just go fight crazy hand there's a little bridge conencting the bismuth-esque components of the map), focus purely on the correct quiz questions then go do dracula.

It took me about 4 hours but that's because i originally just used the NG+ file to hunt for skill orbs and that was on hard mode while keeping the point values in line with the rest. If you just want the spirits just slap it onto Easy, put on your best spirits and take the shortest routes you can see through each area.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Whats the best controller to play this game? Is it the GC controller?

I'm using the Wii U Pro Controller but it feels really clunky and imprecise. I didn't have problems in Smash 4 and I always used them back then but somehow in this game I have problems with the sticks, both the left one and the c-stick.

Is the Switch Pro any better or do I have to get used to a GC controller? I never used one in my life.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Erdrick getting in wouldn't necessarily make that leak true. Multiple "leaks" have featured him since the Game Awards (before and after the one i’m assuming you are talking about). Though, I guess we can confirm it if all of the stage/assist details from that leak end up being true.
I believe Tansut is saying that the leak is true and therefore the milk matriarch is coming, not the other way around.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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No, why?

I think the Spirit/WoL stuff is great for solo play. I think it's exactly the kind of stuff that works well for fighting games, and especially here with all the toys they have to play with in this game.

Maybe it would be stale for next time, but I'm really enjoying Spirits because my last Nintendo console was the SNES and the Spirits really makes me feel like I'm getting caught up with all the characters and stuff I missed. Plus having all the third party cameos is cool.
It's also worth mentioning that Spirits has basically existed in some form since Brawl, where it originated as the stickers in SSE, became custom characters in 4 and better realized as Spirits in Ultimate. Sakurai seems to really want customization to be a thing in the series, so that's probably not changing as long as he sticks around.
 
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Stepping out of the meme zone for a minute; Sakurai has actually said that Lucas wouldn't have been added to Brawl if he knew that Mother 3 wouldn't be localised.
Source? That’s pretty interesting to hear! Certainly does sting to have so many Mother 3 spirits and the game still hasn’t been released in the US. I think we got so caught up asking for Metroid Prime Trilogy that we forgot to keep fighting the good fight.
 
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Stepping out of the meme zone for a minute; Sakurai has actually said that Lucas wouldn't have been added to Brawl if he knew that Mother 3 wouldn't be localised.
Fair enough. And I know he almost cut Marth and Roy from the NTSC and PAL releases of Melee, so I guess he tries to care.
 

r_n

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Fair enough. And I know he almost cut Marth and Roy from the NTSC and PAL releases of Melee, so I guess he tries to care.
Fun fact, it was only Roy that was really talked about.

Sakurai: Yes, there were a few, but I was certain he would be a fun character, so I pushed hard for Marth. For Roy, I think there was some discussion and internal dispute. For example, their voices are both Japanese even in the international releases. That’s pretty rare, I think. Well, other than Pikachu.

Interviewer: (laughs)

Sakurai: During development, I also had meetings with NoA. We talked about removing Roy for the NA release, but in the end they said, “He’ll be fun, so let’s leave him as is.”
http://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/12/13/sakurai-fe25/

Which makes sense, Marth's at least a legacy character and represented a new moveset where as Roy was a last minute addition to tie in with a game with no plans for America that was derivative of Marth.
 

r_n

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The inkling thing is interesting, I hadn't thought of that before. It works in Splatoon beause of the game's whole gimmick, it's designed around the ink and visibility there of.I could see some color/stage combos being softbanned for visibliity reasons. Least it's not as big a deal to softban a battlefield/omega form.


ngl though, i couldn't see the C4 on the logs either. I have trouble keeping track of it on most stages.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I’ve hit 2.3-2.4 million GSP and still no Elite status. Dang I wonder what number I have to hit to finally reach it.
Yea, I hit 2.3 about an hour ago on Pokemon Trainer and no Elite

Sigh...

Every time I feel like I'm getting close, the bar gets raised.
I have a theory that you can use roster GSP to always know the Elite requirement. It seems like your roster GSP just maxes out if you play a handful of other characters almost no matter what GSP they are, going by reports of the 1 GSP throwers. Then it seems you just need to subtract between 50k and 100k to get about what's needed for Elite.

And remember they're inflating your GSP about as fast as they're raising the bar for elite because they want you to think you're progressing on the ladder when you really aren't, so it's not exactly raising the bar. It's possible that even though we're super close, we need to step back and continue upping our skills by stepping out of our comfort zones and losing some before trying to try hard to Elite.
 
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Source? That’s pretty interesting to hear! Certainly does sting to have so many Mother 3 spirits and the game still hasn’t been released in the US. I think we got so caught up asking for Metroid Prime Trilogy that we forgot to keep fighting the good fight.
I can’t actually find the original source (since, from my research, it seems like the Famitsu column it was in isn’t translated) but SourceGaming mentioned it in this article.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Seeing a lot of Peach in tourney. What is different between her and Daisy?
Absolutely none that's been found yet, as far as I know, outside of looks. People probably just like Peach as a character more.

I suppose some animations might be easier or harder for opponents to read? I also think peach's "Oh, did I win?" has pretty strong tilt potential.

Like with Samus/Dark Samus, I think you can still say Dark Samus has a better roll, because even if it's technically the same, the fact that it looked faster to most people might in effect make it faster when those same people are fighting her. I think that makes sense?
 
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Seeing a lot of Peach in tourney. What is different between her and Daisy?
Because of Daisy's animations, she has a slight larger hurtbox on her dash (not the attack, her dash).

That's about it. She's just a significant aesthetic option. Richter's basically in the same spot except his holy water will kill red pikmin. Some of their other idles do shift around their hurtboxes, but nothing terribly significant.

if you had to tier the echoes based on differences it'd go like
S - Ken (x1.1 faster than Ryu (same weight, height, jump, dash, etc etc) he has 2 unique command inputs, 3 of his specials have different functions, his back throw rolls twice before throwing and about 3 of his other attacks have different data on them). He definitely got preferential treatment. I think they easily could have given the rest of his moveset a little touch up if they wanted to and had the time.
A - Chrom (no sweet/sour spot, has Roy's average power & knockback throughout his blade attacks, Ike's up special, doesnt have fire hitbox, Final Smash functions differently).
B - Lucina (no sweet/sour spot, has Marth's average power & knockback, a smidge smaller than marth). I only put her lower than Chrom because Chrom gets his own idles and of course the up special.Dark Samus (electric instead of fire (so there's a little more hitstun), different front/back roll, a little taller than Samus in her standing/initial jump, her up smash has a bigger start up hitbox)
C - Dark Pit (electroshock arm does more damage and has angeled knockback, the arrows deal more damage and can't be as controlled, different final smash.
D - Richter & Daisy
F - Alph

I'm still bummed Lucina & Dark Pit didn't get their own animations this go around, since that was by far the most important and consistent part of the new echoes. Even just Lucina using Marth's Smash 4 animations would've been fine.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Tried out Classic mode and it was fun, miles better than Smash 4, and I enjoyed the credit shooting mini game.

My only complaint is the lack of victory video that plays at the end and the rewards mean nothing to me as they are tied to World of light and I don't shit about that mode so there's less reason for me to to use a ticket.

I will probably get through all the remaining fighters and then I am done with the game, till Piranha Plant is released.
 
Last I heard Verge still thought Minecraft was confirmed.
He and Hitagi both believe in Erdrick and Minecraft stuff being DLC. Yesterday, he said this:
Nintendo chose Joker as a late decision to tie in to relevancy with The Game Awards since it has multiple nominations and won an award the year before at them.

What makes more sense to do at The Game Awards.... announce a character from something a lot of western fans don't have a bigger connection with from a game series that only got one nomination that it should have won but didn't.... or the character from a game that got multiple nominations the year before and got to win one?
Which is definitely referring to Dragon Quest. He seems to be pushing the idea that Erdrick is further along than Joker, but the latter was pushed out first in order to tie into the Game Awards.

Why are people taking Verge seriously again?
I don't think it's just him; I think some insiders on Smashboards are also convinced about Erdrick. Not entirely sure about that though.
 
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Which is definitely referring to Dragon Quest. He seems to be pushing the idea that Erdrick is further along than Joker, but the latter was pushed out first in order to tie into the Game Awards.
which is absolute bullshit. makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for five seconds. the game awards aren't so important that nintendo and sakurai are going to reorganize their entire development schedule for DLC around them.
 
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which is absolute bullshit. makes absolutely no sense if you think about it for five seconds. the game awards aren't so important that nintendo and sakurai are going to reorganize their entire development schedule for DLC around them.
Yeah, that sounds super fishy.

Almost, pretty much every leak regarding the development schedules/pipelines/cycles/etc. are bullshit.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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He and Hitagi both believe in Erdrick and Minecraft stuff being DLC. Yesterday, he said this:

Which is definitely referring to Dragon Quest. He seems to be pushing the idea that Erdrick is further along than Joker, but the latter was pushed out first in order to tie into the Game Awards.
https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...ate-jokers-reveal-getting-some-rest-and-more/

As for the character himself and how we’re going about it, there’ll probably be another time where I can touch on it; for now, though, it’s a secret. What I’d like to talk about first is his reveal.

Nintendo had first approached me with a request: “We want you to reveal that Joker’s in development at The Game Awards 2018.” The timing wasn’t bad at all, it really was what made the flower that was Ultimate’s release bloom. Of course, I hadn’t even started on development at that point, so there wasn’t any gameplay we could show off.

To that end, I thought that we could reveal him through an animated cutscene.

After seeing The Game Awards’ venue, I thought about how I could make the reveal interesting. I’d eventually reach the idea that Joker would infiltrate the venue and steal its “treasure” – an invitation to Smash.

I’m familiar with P5, so writing dialogue that suited the character wasn’t much of an issue. Scheduling with Joker’s voice actor – who’s quite popular – was a different story. We had fun recording the lines, though; the atmosphere in the recording studio was pretty cheerful. We only ended up with a few lines of dialogue, though… What a waste…

I’m not sure about whether or not we’ll do reveal movies for the other DLC fighters, but I’d like to do what I can (within the realm of possibility) to make sure you all enjoy them.
I don't think it's just him; I think some insiders on Smashboards are also convinced about Erdrick. Not entirely sure about that though.
Erdrick/Loto may be in. But I don't see any evidence that any of these folks actually know anything just yet.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Duck Hunt has become one of my faves. The Dalmatian skin is ❤️

Also messing around with Corrin after having dismissed her as a nonsense character last game. Her animations are so absurd.
 
To be clear, are you referring to the 5chan leak from about two weeks back, or something else?
That's a pretty safe assumption. I personally don't buy that leak, especially after Sakurai's comments about Joker not being in a playable state yet. It's strange that some random guy would know about his stage and Jack Frost's presence in the game before Joker is even able to function.
 
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