- Oct 25, 2017
Let's maybe not cast Hollywood talent managers anymore.
Thing is, I share both perspectives. I'm all-in on feeling an extreme amount of distaste for the direction this game has turned and who has benefited from it... and yet, I also consider this to be one of the most compelling episodes of Survivor in recent memory. And I'm certainly not one to crow about US Survivor these days. I believe it was expertly produced, will not be an episode I forget anytime soon and am eager to see what direction this season takes next.I'm on the West coast, so I won't be watching the episode for a couple hours. But it's pretty crazy how in one episode everyone's gone from "wow this season's been pretty good so far there's a lot of people that are interesting and playing the game" to "fuck this season I hate everyone besides like 3 people."
Bruh, I'm in the middle of the episode here on the west coast but the part about Dan with the producer warning text even is crazy, this season has been legitimately great with social issues and handling them in a respectful manner. I hope I'm not gonna regret those words by the end of this episode
You're not wrong on any of this. While I may have given praise to tonight's editors, that doesn't excuse the fact that Production waited so long to respond to Dan's uninvited physical contact or that he was cast for the season in the first place.
Fans of the show watched the situation unfold on Wednesday night as the two-hour episode unfolded.
At first, many people cheered CBS and the showrunners for deciding to include Kim’s interview and the producer’s response.
“Wow! I’ve watched #Survivor since S1 & never heard production voice during interviews. Never!” one viewer wrote on Twitter. “If Moonves was still at CBS, this would’ve never happened,” the same person wrote in another tweet. “He would’ve shoved it in forever unseen footage. I see progress.”
But as the episode wore on, as Kim was booted off and Carbin was targeted by the women who lied, some viewers turned sour on the network’s handling of the issue.
“We all watched the episode, the producers even got involved and talked to Dan,” one fan wrote in a tweet. “These people are pissing me off. Janet is the truth."
One former contestant said she was so dismayed by the show’s handling of the situation, she was considering not watching the rest of this season.
“I’ve loved #survivor for so many years,” said Eliza Orlins, who competed in the show in 2004 and 2008. “Almost 20, in fact. And, for the first time ever, I think I’m going to stop watching the show. I’m done with this season. I have friends on season 40 so I’ll pick it back then, but honestly, I’m out after tonight. This felt … really gross.”
In an interview, Probst defended the show’s handling of the subject.
“We are witnessing a real and raw example of another layer of the changing dynamic between men and women: You don’t have to feel unsafe to feel uncomfortable, and making someone uncomfortable is not okay,” Probst told the Hollywood Reporter. “It’s new territory, and it’s offering us a chance to continue to examine how men and women treat each other and to learn how to respect each other.”
Probst said he pushed the tribe to reckon with the allegations despite a reluctance to talk them through.
“There is no denying that [Spilo] made some of the women, like Kellee, uncomfortable, and he needed to address it,” Probst told the Hollywood Reporter. “But understandably, he also wanted to defend against other accusations that were not true and were simply gameplay.”
I mean.. this is sort of what the contestant signed up for. Create their own society while knowing that every moment they live out there is being filmed and could be shown. Seasons in the past have either dealt with or at least shown controversial moments, even to the detriment of the people involved. A clear recent example is the Zeke/Varner outing incident from Game Changers. But you go back in the show's history, and you have Boston Rob way back in season 4 demanding John Carroll come out of the closet to gain his trust. Production likes to forget that one.
Maybe Dan is the one booted for Boston Sandra to sit?