found the post where Zhuge confirms Xbox at around 35 million https://www.resetera.com/threads/mi...-buy-its-way-out-of.22630/page-2#post-4434590
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Switch at 17.79 million worldwide units sold, as of March 31, 2018.
- Thread starter Meelow
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It isn't fair to compare attach rate of Nintendo and Sony exclusives.
In Sony case there is a huge wider and more varied library of games and way stronger 3rd party and indie support, so Sony games have to compete against GTA, Assassin's Creed, CoD, Battlefield and so on, while Nintendo only competes against a way smaller and weaker amount of games. In Sony, Xbox 3rd party multiplatform games are as important or more than 1st party games.
3rd party vs 1st party market share is way different in Nintendo case because many people like me have Nintendo platforms basically just to play Nintendo games, while primarly in the other platforms like PS4 because most AAA games from top publishers are there.
I'm not the poster who was initially talking about this and I'm not agreeing with his claim, but I think the answer is fairly clear- The Wii audience was heavily skewed towards "non-traditional" gamer demographic. Far more so than we're seeing on the Switch now.
The only traditional first party games that really took off due to this demographic were Mario Kart and NSMB Wii.
And that's exactly the answer I was expecting, you think a Zelda game released when switch will be at +80 million would have a 50% attach rate too? I guess we can use the excuse that people buy PS4 just to play GTA, Fortnite, CoD and FIFA.
ARMS is going to stay for a long time there. Even if the legs is not as hot as other gigantic evergreen title, it will reach 2 million faster than SFV did for sure.
Why? It is a simple party game that casual would love to play during some time together. When there is no one providing that casual game experience, it is not surprising to see 1-2 Switch to be racking all the success there.
No, I don't. Like I said I didn't agree with that argument. There's a ceiling to sales for most properties- tie ratio doesn't really mean much after a certain level. I'm simply responding to that question about why sales for Galaxy and Smash on the Wii were relatively low.
Arms should be there after this quarter I think. I feel a price drop to 30-40 would really help the game out though. More people should be playing this game.
I think 30-40 price is the hot spot for sales there.^_^ Also, the more demo they give for ARMS. THe more i can see it help it legs there.
If you're using NPD as a source here, it's fair to point out that Nintendo games don't have digital sales included, which is a fairly significant percentage of the total.
SMG were great games but the Wii sucked and was a motion control fad/gimmick that people eventually saw through. Switch is by far Nintendo's best console since Gamecube and will probably surpass that as well as Nintendo 64 by year's end. As someone who hasn't given a shit about Nintendo since Gamecube, even I bought a Switch and im all in with it. As long as they keep the motion control garbage to a minimum in their games, I personally should be okay.
In general, very happy and pleased that Switch is having the success that it's having. Should easily surpass Xbox One by March 31st, 2020 in total console sales as long as they keep the games coming. PS4 Pro is my primary but having Switch as my secondary console is awesome as it's bringing back all the great memories of 1995/1996 with the original PlayStation and Nintendo 64.
Nintendo Wii's top selling software:
Wii Sports 83M
Wii Fit(+) 44M
MKWii 37M
Wii Sports Resort 33M
Super Mario Bros Wii 30M
Wii Play 28M
Smash Brawl 13M
Mario Galaxy 12M
The Wii had plenty of sales high ratio games. In fact, I hear all the time that no one bought games for the system, but it has a 9:1 tie ratio, which is the second highest of any Nintendo platform, only beaten by the insane gamecube attach rate.
1 2 Switch was a launch game heavily advertised alongside the Switch.
Man I don't understand the ebb and flow of stocks. These seem like amazing numbers but everyone selling haha
I sincerely, and unironically, hope that you're right.
The bolded isn't really true, Switch is far outpacing PS4 in indie support (and sales). Launch aligned Switch has over double the number of indie games PS4 did.
Also launch aligned Switch has more total games than PS4 did so the varied argument is also debatable.
A change in President is probably part of it. Stock markets don't like uncertainty.
Again, you think a Zelda game would sell +40 million on an 80 million instal base? The guy was clearly talking out of his ass, instal base doesn't guarantee your games to sell gangbusters.
Analyst expectations were 16M units sold for the FY, resulting in 18.7M LTD. It's come in close to 1M under that, so they're naturally a bit disappointed.
I actually sold half my shares yesterday after doing the math, there was no way those analyst expectations would be met.
It will.
DKCTF's sales were constrained by the WiiU lack of success.
Every WiiU port to Switch will sell more.
Sales don't scale up like that with installbase after a certain point.
If that were the case, late big PS2 titles should have hit 20-30 million each time.
Would you expect Horizon and Uncharted to have the similar attachment rates for an 18m userbase?
Damn, the Switch is near neck and neck with the PS4, launch aligned within ~1 year. Even in my most optimistic predictions, I didn't expect that so I'm happy to see that it's doing so well. I hope we see support continue to improve and for Nintendo to continue to release a steady stream of games
Bingo. Every franchise has a sales cap and not everyone buying into a system is looking for the same kind of games. Many of Sony's games on the PS4 have done very well, no need to downplay that. They're just not going to continue to sell millions after a certain point. The same will hold true for the Switch as well. It's not as if BOTW or Super Mario Odyssey, for example, will go on to sell 30 to 40 million units, for example
Will a chunk of these sales be undone next year to make him right or what exactly is he holding out for?
If I could time travel my first stop would be November 18, 2012, where I would slap myself square across the face and tell myself to not buy a Wii U.
What a fucking waste of time and money that was. Ugh.
What a fucking waste of time and money that was. Ugh.
Because a blue ocean strategy meant that a large amount of the people who bought a Wii were not gamers that played anything other than wii sports and wii fit.
Mario Kart and NSMB both sold more than 30 million though.
MKWii sold almost as many units as Wii Fit, and it's not like Wii Sports or Wii Sports Resort were bad games.
No but the Switch sales might collapse any second and then he can say that it is a failure just so he doesn't have to eat crows. No idea why some people are rather moving goalposts than simply admitting being wrong. Even Colin Moriarty did that lol.
Both Uncharted and Horizon released during points in time where nothing else was coming out. GTA, Assassin's Creed, CoD, Battlefield all come out during the holiday season. What did Uncharted (May) and Horizon (Feb) really compete with?
Mario and Zelda also had to compete with all those games. People generally have a certain amount that they can spend, not allocations for certain companies. If you had $60 to spend last October 27th and you owned both a PS4 and a Switch then that money spent on AC is money not spent on Mario.