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Switch emulator Yuzu now boots Pokémon Let's Go

Oct 25, 2017
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Wow that is amazing progress. This is coming along amazingly. Top credits to it's devs. Won't be long before the "oMg iTs PiRacY" crowd get here though unfortunately.
 

TheSyldat

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Well glad to see that things are moving forward in terms of making sure the switch library will survive the inevitable death of Nintedo Switches batteries...
 
Sep 2, 2018
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Thank God, I was starting to worry about the state of it's preservation

/s (maybe)
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Thank God, I was starting to worry about the state of it's preservation

/s (maybe)
Every goddamn thread.

Crazy impressive progress, although I suspect that Pokemon is dramatically less technically complex than Mario Odyssey.
 
Nov 1, 2017
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As somebody who knows nothing about the logistics behind how emulation works, can someone explain to me why nintendo switch can already be emulated to a certain extent and ps4 and xb1 are still far behind? Is it because sony and ms's platforms are more secure? Or is it just because more people work towards cracking nintendo hardware then people who work towards cracking ms's and sonys hardware.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Awesome news!

Shared code between Yuzu and Citra is definitely one of the reasons why they making such a large progress in so little time. Maybe stuff like texture modding as we see in Dolphin won't be outside the realm of possibility.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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As somebody who knows nothing about the logistics behind how emulation works, can someone explain to me why nintendo switch can already be emulated to a certain extent and ps4 and xb1 are still far behind? Is it because sony and ms's platforms are more secure? Or is it just because more people work towards cracking nintendo hardware then people who work towards cracking ms's and sonys hardware.
Tegra has a lot of documentation and the console was blown wide open because of a security flaw on top of that. Also devs of dolphin and cemu are pitching in.
 
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Oct 25, 2017
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As somebody who knows nothing about the logistics behind how emulation works, can someone explain to me why nintendo switch can already be emulated to a certain extent and ps4 and xb1 are still far behind? Is it because sony and ms's platforms are more secure? Or is it just because more people work towards cracking nintendo hardware then people who work towards cracking ms's and sonys hardware.
Mostly Tegra X3 having a shitload of publically available documentation. The relative lack of power of the Switch and the fact that it shares a lot with the 3DS also helps, considering these are the Citra Devs (3DS emu)
 
Dec 7, 2017
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As somebody who knows nothing about the logistics behind how emulation works, can someone explain to me why nintendo switch can already be emulated to a certain extent and ps4 and xb1 are still far behind? Is it because sony and ms's platforms are more secure? Or is it just because more people work towards cracking nintendo hardware then people who work towards cracking ms's and sonys hardware.
Weaker platform + a ton of documentation already available about Switch SoC and Switch is already completely hacked. And also because people want to play Nintendo games but they don't want to invest into their ecosystem. Most of the PS/XBOX games are already available on PC except their exclusives but Nintendo's exclusives are more appealing.

It feels kinda unfair to those who pay for system and games, though. I know some people dump their own games but they are a minority.
 

Bernd Lauert

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Well glad to see that things are moving forward in terms of making sure the switch library will survive the inevitable death of Nintedo Switches batteries...
I know this is just a drive by shitpost but emulation is also great for playing games at a good frame rate and image quality. Xenoblade 2 pains my eyes at certain points. Just having it at a native 1080p and solid 30 fps would be a god send.
 
Feb 28, 2018
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User Banned (1 day): Equating emulation to piracy
Wow that is amazing progress. This is coming along amazingly. Top credits to it's devs. Won't be long before the "oMg iTs PiRacY" crowd get here though unfortunately.
I'll happily join the "omg it's piracy" crowd to point out that this will overwhelmingly be used for piracy and nothing else.

There's a reason these emulators always use the latest and most popular games in their showcases, and it's not to show off the accuracy of the emulator.
 

TheSyldat

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As somebody who knows nothing about the logistics behind how emulation works, can someone explain to me why nintendo switch can already be emulated to a certain extent and ps4 and xb1 are still far behind? Is it because sony and ms's platforms are more secure? Or is it just because more people work towards cracking nintendo hardware then people who work towards cracking ms's and sonys hardware.
Nvidia's Tegra processors are much much more publicly documented and the basic design principles of the whole Tegra family have been known for quite sometime now.
Add to that the fact the Nintendo Switch with the amount of ways to get in is just begging to be cracked open , and it's no wonder that Hackers were tinkering around with it a lot more and got further than anything.

Ironically in the case of the PS4 and XBONE they both rely on an X86_64 bit processor equipped with a discrete GPU sure. But in both cases said CPU / GPU combos have received custom modifications and extensions that are a bit trickier to figure out. Also emulating the PS4 and XBONE right now is only gonna touch the few gamers that can afford a 5K $ rig so its not worth investigating or simply releasing publicly the fruits of your investigations just yet, nobody would be game for it anyway.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'll happily join the "omg it's piracy" crowd to point out that this will overwhelmingly be used for piracy and nothing else.

There's a reason these emulators always use the latest and most popular games in their showcases, and it's not to show off the accuracy of the emulator.
Make a new thread about it and don't shit this one up.
 

TheSyldat

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I know this is just a drive by shitpost but emulation is also great for playing games at a good frame rate and image quality. Xenoblade 2 pains my eyes at certain points. Just having it at a native 1080p and solid 30 fps would be a god send.
Wasn't me shit posting I'm seriously annoyed that Nintendo once again decided to choose a weird form factor for their batteries rather than going for something standard that can be easily replaced in the future.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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User Warned: Equating emulationa and piracy and derailing thread.
Wow that is amazing progress. This is coming along amazingly. Top credits to it's devs. Won't be long before the "oMg iTs PiRacY" crowd get here though unfortunately.
Sorry, but people who use this for legal emulation = 1%. Don’t try to deny it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Thank God, I was starting to worry about the state of it's preservation

/s (maybe)
hahahah this. Emulation is really important and I'm all for it, but having something that can run a current gen game this well doesnt rub me the right way.
 

TheSyldat

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Guys have you even watched the video ?

The text doesn't render properly there is no sound , the frame rate is all over the place from instances to instances.

Yuzu is still waaaaay in its infancy they're just showing it off to show how the project is coming along so far , and its clear that nothing is in a playable state so far...
 
Nov 8, 2017
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Being able to emulate current gen consoles and games the day they come out is a big no from me. Too much of a grey area.

Yuzu is still waaaaay in its infancy they're just showing it off to show how the project is coming along so far , and its clear that nothing is in a playable state so far...
The speed at which BotW got emulated perfectly once the Cemu devs started getting huge financial backing makes me think it won't be long for Pokemon either.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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As somebody who knows nothing about the logistics behind how emulation works, can someone explain to me why nintendo switch can already be emulated to a certain extent and ps4 and xb1 are still far behind? Is it because sony and ms's platforms are more secure? Or is it just because more people work towards cracking nintendo hardware then people who work towards cracking ms's and sonys hardware.
In addition to the comments on public documentation and lower power envelope, a big driver is simply community interest. More people and general effort seems to go into emulation, hacking and translations for Nintendo platforms and their software than all other consoles combined (Sega, Sony, NEC, MS, Atari, etc).
 
Nov 8, 2017
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Please, enlighten us on why is it a grey area? You buy the game, rip the ROM, play it in an emulator. There's no grey area whatsoever in this case.
Yes because there aren't any places where you can get that ROM for free...

Last I checked you need to hack your Switch too, to be able to rip a game.
 

TheSyldat

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Being able to emulate current gen consoles and games the day they come out is a big no from me. Too much of a grey area.



The speed at which BotW got emulated perfectly once the Cemu devs started getting huge financial backing makes me think it won't be long for Pokemon either.
Except that the WiiU is a third refresh on the Gamecube , getting that nugget cracked reliably was within reach.

Here we still have to figure out how tesselation is handled , how variable resolutions are processed etc etc etc...

again Yuzu is way too much of a baby right now to play Switch games comfortably.

(Heck even Citra is still rocky as all hell and playing on a real 3DS is still preferable )
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Well glad to see that things are moving forward in terms of making sure the switch library will survive the inevitable death of Nintedo Switches batteries...
I guess Gen 8 will run decent by the time it releases
You guys just can't hold it in, can you? Every single fucking time... and yes, I'm playing Let's Go on my Switch, got it the moment it launched. Get out of here with your concern BS.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Great. I can see we are already at the "It's piracy" part of a emulation thread. As if there are any downsides for development work for Emulators to start as soon as possible and be playable as much as possible.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just a heads-up for the anti-emulation weirdos, but people are currently able to play the game perfectly at full-speed on a hacked Switch with a pirated copy of the game.
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Please, enlighten us on why is it a grey area? You buy the game, rip the ROM, play it in an emulator. There's no grey area whatsoever in this case.
If you want to act like the majority of people using this emulator don't skip the first step described by you go ahead lol.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Just a heads-up for the anti-emulation weirdos, but people are currently able to play the game perfectly at full-speed on a hacked Switch with a pirated copy of the game.
Shhh, at least Papi Nintendo already got their money because they bought a Switch, that's all that matters so shhh...
/s
 
Nov 8, 2017
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Just a heads-up for the anti-emulation weirdos, but people are currently able to play the game perfectly at full-speed on a hacked Switch with a pirated copy of the game.
Yes which is worse. At least they own a Switch though. Not sure what you're trying to get at?
 
Jul 14, 2018
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Great. I can see we are already at the "It's piracy" part of a emulation thread. As if there are any downsides for development work for Emulators to start as soon as possible and be playable as much as possible.
Every time. As if anyone gives a shit about their moral grandstanding.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'll happily join the "omg it's piracy" crowd to point out that this will overwhelmingly be used for piracy and nothing else.

There's a reason these emulators always use the latest and most popular games in their showcases, and it's not to show off the accuracy of the emulator.
If you're implying that the developer of the emulator encourages piracy by showcasing the latest games, then you're way off the mark here.

Any number of games which can be accurately played in the emulator will help them improve the software, it doesn't matter if the game is old or new in the generation. All that matters is that the team will acquire more data gained from games which are available in the platform.