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Switch revision potentially leaked via 5.0 firmware (Codenamed Mariko, 8GB RAM) [speculation]
- Thread starter Atheerios
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We don't know anything about T214, only its existence thanks to this firmware.
Having a release so close would be incredibly unfair to early supporters such as myself. Hope this only happens next year. Or if it's this year at least give us something to make-up for the disappointment.
Why would it be this year? Come on lol
Nintendo needs to prepare for the next gen PS/Xbox systems. Also the Switch may not be able to get big games this gen.
Its not.
Literally all technology works this way. Switch isn't the first.
Nintendo already said no new hardware will release this year, only add-on's, If this does release it's a 2019 thing at the earliest.
This is probably coming out next year. Nintendo already said no revisions this year but remained silent on the times after. Mid to late next year we will see this Pro or X version. I'm betting it's going to be something special.
Can't wait.
Can't wait.
So you bought it thinking "this product is not worth the money I'm paying for it"?
It is. It's on my Switch right now. It may be difficult to see the references that homebrew community have found, but they're still putting those references in a release version of the OS. They're going to have separate internal branches for unreleased hardware, but there's no reason to start bringing that code into the release branch unless that hardware is at least somewhere close to being made public.
That's something we can easily guarantee won't happen, at least on the existing model. The TX1 used in Switch can only ever execute code on 4 cores at once, either the A57s or A53s, but not both at the same time.
Care to explain why?
A Switch that doesn't Switch, or do anything like it's current value proposition? It would still be much weaker than the competition and have nothing special going for it compared to them besides Nintendo IP. Just don't think that makes any sense at all and there's no evidence of it either.
Going off by pure math, it's about 1.9% more powerful because it's just 210+4 so it's just 4/210 better
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EDIT: Realistically, it could range anywhere between 0% (same, just a security update) to 40% (die shrink to 16nm), but I could be wrong
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Gonna be the crazy guy in the thread, and go for broke. Switch Revision announced at E3. Releases in October, 19 months after launch, which is nothing new for Nintendo handhelds. 330 for this new model, 270 for the basic. Nintendo needs a relatively cheap SKU for the launch of Pokemon. New model is on a 14nm die for cheaper production as well as 8gigs of ram due to higher production rates, a 6.5 inch screen that can fit in the same body, same sized battery, and everything is the same.
Prediction: Switch DX Japan launch Spring 2019 with Monster Hunter Portable 5th
I agree it's probably a ways out but never take a Nintendo rep at their word on these things.
Nintendo's said the same thing before only to turn around and announce a new revision 2 weeks later. That's exactly what happened with n3DS.
I agree it's probably a ways out but never take a Nintendo rep at their word on these things.
They're not doing this. It's not needed. Since when do they need a cheap sku for Pokémon?
You are crazy. Also, it makes no sense dropping the price of a system that's in such high demand they can't even fully stock it. I don't get why people keep suggesting price drops in spite of this. How does that make any logical sense? Price drops are to combat a decline is demand, not to exacerbate issues with already meeting it
I really hope it's a Switch Pro , it was very noticeable and annoying in Xenoblade 2 when the resolution would drop and go back to normal in certain areas.
Well, my (again likely incorrect) theory is predicated on the idea that this Mariko SoC is a simple security update, possibly with a boost in RAM, which would simply be the new standard Switch model being sold as early as this year. Not a major revision.
I'm saying -if that's the case- then potentially this revision will have a Thunderbolt capable USBC connector and be able to interface with a separate standalone eGPU dock, which could also release this year as part of the many accessories and add-on hardware Nintendo promises is coming. Then this eGPU dock plus the base Switch/Mariko Switch would give you a performance profile which necessitated those much more powerful devkits the Foxconn leaker described. If the base Switch can also use an eGPU even with the bandwidth constraints then that's even better.
The thing about the SCD concept that I always thought was so incredibly elegant was that it was capable of supplementing processing power both wired and wirelessly, which is something that plays right into the major strengths of the Switch. You could have the SCD supplement X amount of processing when docked to achieve much more stable framerates and resolution on the TV, and 0.5X amount of processing when undocked to achieve much more stable framerates and resolution on the Switch screen. In theory of course.
Huh. Never would have guessed that a great way to limit the damage of these exploits would be to make the "fixed" console better and push the enthusiast audience to upgrade.
Anyway the Switch was designed on a budget. Now they know its a successful formula, maybe a new version that doesn't run on 2015 mobile tech would be good.
Anyway the Switch was designed on a budget. Now they know its a successful formula, maybe a new version that doesn't run on 2015 mobile tech would be good.
I thought Nintendo said they're interested in making new peripherals instead of new hardware revisions?
The SCD could end up coming true? I guess that would be a peripheral
Isn't one of the biggest issues with Switch bandwidth? Theoretically wouldn't additional RAM Alleviate some of that?
Also, if they are producing a new chip they may do a die shrink. If they do shrink the die they should at the very least be able to bump the clocks for some additional power. Not an expert so no idea how noticeable such a set up would be but just spitballing that it could provide some performance boost.
I honestly have no idea how feasible it is, but most people who know more than I have said that the Switch would need a different USB-C port with much more bandwidth to really be able to use something like an SCD (an external GPU essentially). If there is a revision coming soon and it's essentially just a new SoC with a security update, they could also revise the USB-C port such that it has the necessary bandwidth. That's where my theory is coming from.
Again, I'm probably way off.
They need to be careful about this imo, just because its 'old' tech doesn't mean the Switch needs to be upgraded quickly. Game systems still aren't smartphones the Pro and X didn't do that well for such an upgrade .
Imagine if they announced this at E3 (coming holiday 2018) wouldn't it be too quick?? Also the upgrades might not be as significant as enthusiasts want to believe these are dev kits.
This is going to be interesting
I think this is less likely as it actually would split the userbase.
Remember when Miyamoto said they weren't working on a new 3ds and 2 weeks later they announced New 3ds?
Right, that's what I noted as the major flaw in that theory. But Thraktor seems to think bandwidth isn't a hard limitation for this application, and I wonder now if you could get varying levels of supplemental processing with the base Switch versus the new Mariko one.
Sigh. Was kinda hoping we'd make it at least a few years before Nintendo starts the hardware upgrade train. Though to be fair, I feel like the switch won't last as long as their other machines so maybe it's for the best. I find the joy cons in particular feel delicate.
Kimishima doesn't seem the type to hide things for excitement.
Historically, Pokemon has launched near or right after the launch of a revision. More so in the west, buy for the last decade or so it has always been the case:
-Gameboy Color came only 2 months after the Launch of Red/Blue.
-Gameboy Advance SP came a month after Ruby/Sapphire in the west, 3 months later in Japan.
-Diamond/Pearl came after the DS Lite.
-Black/White alongside the DSi
-X/Y after the 2DS and the 3DSXL
The only exceptions are Sun/Moon and the Japanese launch of Pokemon in 96. There has always been a new base price model with the previous model getting a price cut right next to Pokemon, I cannot see it not happening here.
I'm on #TeamDevKit.
Not too worried. It's way too early for a revision like this. I still expect we'll see form factor changes, but not until next year.
Not too worried. It's way too early for a revision like this. I still expect we'll see form factor changes, but not until next year.
Actually in this case I don't believe Nintendo ever said it, it was the WSJ who talked to their sources at Nintendo who reported it.
Which, oddly, I find to be a bit more believable than if Nintendo said it.
Miyamoto isn't Kimishima. Kimishima is straight forward. He said no revisions this fiscal year.
How can that happen when Labo exists?