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Sword & Scale, Fifth Largest Creator on Patreon, Pledges to Leave and Join Dave Rubin/Jordan Peterson's "Free Speech" Alternative
- Thread starter Grain Silo
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I think USUALLY deplatforming works. I worry that in this specific case...there is a market for a website where those who want to fund hate speech and vile content can congregate.
It's one of my favorite podcasts. As true crime podcasts go (and there are lots of them) it's easily top 5. probably #1 for a lot of fans (though I greatly prefer Casefile.)
Not sure I agree with their reasoning here though :/
Not sure I agree with their reasoning here though :/
weird they're against business being businesses and choosing what they host, claiming that it violates their free speech by a business choosing not do host hate-speech.
very conservative of them, being against big business wanting to do what they want.
Idiots.
very conservative of them, being against big business wanting to do what they want.
Idiots.
I used to love this show till I found out the host is kind of a shitbag. Not because he's conservative, but because of the alleged and inappropriate reuqests for nude pics disguised as jokes from women who are fans of the show.
He's also done some extremely tasteless shit on the show itself, including interviewing a kid who was likely on the autism spectrum without properly setting this up and explaining to the subject what the interview would entailn and it made the poor kid look terrible. Among other things, and getting all defensive about it when criticized.
He's also done some extremely tasteless shit on the show itself, including interviewing a kid who was likely on the autism spectrum without properly setting this up and explaining to the subject what the interview would entailn and it made the poor kid look terrible. Among other things, and getting all defensive about it when criticized.
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Eventually they will have their own "free speech" issues when payment processors are demanding they remove anyone with visible swastika tattoos.
I still like the show, but having listened to every episode (except the patreon exclusive ones) i've long noticed thathe has a tendancy to inject a lot of commentary into what he covers on the show... and sometimes I don't agree with his POV. He comes off as a little judgemental at times.
Why though? I am honestly asking this because when I listened to it a couple years aback, it seemed like it was just recordings of bad people being bad with very little commentary from the host. It felt more like a Faces of Death movie, relying on the salaciousness of it all instead of being informative.
The First Amendment is the US's protection from government action based the content of speech. "Freedom of speech" in general is a much broader topic.
He does have a tendancy to produce episodes that are mostly audio clips from police interrogations, court appearances, etc. the better episodes have less of that and more description. I've learned about hundreds of weird cases I never would have learned about on my own though, so I guess that's why I still listen because it can occasionally still surprise me.
Some episodes do come off as overly exploitative of the situation. And like I mentioned... the host can definitely seem judgemental, almost like he's scolding the people involved.
Dunno what else to tell you... I'm a bit of a podcast addict and listen to all sorts of things. Casefile is way better.
While this is true, it's a paradoxical topic regardless of whether you're talking about the amendment or the concept. The idea that you should have the right to say whatever you want without social consequence infringes on the freedom of others to protest your speech.
85k/month for a podcast??
Liberty Justice, but I'm also not sure what it has to do with a crime podcast.
I thought of the Statue of
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Statue of Liberty has a torch and book
You are thinking of this statue, which does have to do with crime
Also I hope they become irrelevant
Patreon should immediately remove any of these that claim they will leave it's platform AS SOON AS a viable alternative is available. Fuck em.
Derp, I think did of Lady Justice but for some reason I mixed them all up... not sure why lol. Anyway yeah Lady Justice does sorta have to do with crime but not so much the angle I'd expect from "true crime" thingies, but maybe I'm wrong.
Well, yes. There was a market. And the alt right started up Hatreon. It got banned by Visa and then shut down. I wonder how long this one will last.
My prediction is its going to be a scene if they actually go through with this.
The platform they create will become an instant sewer and spawn school shooters, white nationalists and terrorists.
Inevitably when violence occurs it'll redound on those who created it and they'll never be allowed back into the mainstream social media platforms, or probably polite society.
The platform they create will become an instant sewer and spawn school shooters, white nationalists and terrorists.
Inevitably when violence occurs it'll redound on those who created it and they'll never be allowed back into the mainstream social media platforms, or probably polite society.
HA! So Sargon was literally throwing around racist and homophobic slurs but people thought he should be protected for doing it somewhere else on the internet. This is really what these idiots Peterson and Rubin types are taking a stand against?
Yeah. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for a while because I was infatuated with his work (even cosplayed as Alice a couple times) but he's just been showing his ugly head more and more over the past year. I hope this is the nail in the coffin for his dying dreams.
I loved Sword and Scale when it initially came out but dropped it years ago when the guy attacked his fans on reddit and facebook and generally the quality of the show went downhill. I see it got even worse. What a douchebag.
Wow. This speaks volumes. I hope there is a large part of the community that will just cop their shit freely and not give them any financial incentive
Damn straight. I used to like Sword and Scale, until the guy went batshit crazy at his critics on social media and started calling Last Podcast hosts cunts on Twitter.
Sword and Scale, the podcast where the host routinely drops audio of actual murders and capped off his "are humans evil" episode by being the sole "yep, evil" voice among experts and researchers who said otherwise, might be an asshole. I wish I could say this is surprising.
Why am I not surprised these "free speech" advocates are not talking about the anti-BDS censorship that happens in 26 USA states.
Oh. Well that's disheartening.
Had no idea he was one of those idiots.
Do we have any receipts for this or is it OK to throw out unsubstantiated accusations on this forum?
Because it's not about free speech. It was never about free speech. They just want carte blanche to say whatever they want.
Ah yes, "Carl got kicked off Patreon for saying the fucking n-word" seems like a brilliant hill to die on, but these people treat "intellectuals" like Carl or Jordan Peterson like they're geniuses so it's not like intelligence is the name of the game.
Please continue to self-deplatform, guys. I'm almost owned. Keep going. You'll get there.
Please continue to self-deplatform, guys. I'm almost owned. Keep going. You'll get there.
Peterson and Rubin will fuck it up in a few months and all the dipshits will come crawling back. These guys are idiots and Peterson is an ideologue. He will impose his own bizzare censorships.
The best thing McGee did was Dead Simple anyway, and that was with Sandy Petersen.
I hope Mastercard, Visa, Paypal and Patreon refuse these guys from using their services if this goes wrong. Some people like to talk big about leaving, but when you research into their internet footprints, you find out that they never truly left what they claim they were leaving.
Imagine being from a country that both overtly and covertly suppressed any political debate of left wing policies for most of 70 years, but being upset about mah freeze peach when some fucking neonazis get taken off a fundraising platform
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I don't know if it's intended as a "joke" here, it's not funny. I've also updated the OP with a link to a tumblr that collects receipts of his behavior. Mike Boudet is just an egotist and an asshole.