Tales of Vesperia "Definitive Edition" |OT| Yeah, that one....

Oct 17, 2018
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Dumb question for anyone playing with Japanese audio and English subs - I've just started the game and I'm playing with English audio, but I'm not a fan of Troy as Yuri (sorry...). I'm worried about missing dialogue during fast-paced scenes if I change languages. I'm used to watching subbed anime, but has anyone had trouble keeping up with the in-game subs? Really tempted to switch.
I can't speak for Vesperia, but I was fine playing Berseria in Japanese with subtitles.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Dumb question for anyone playing with Japanese audio and English subs - I've just started the game and I'm playing with English audio, but I'm not a fan of Troy as Yuri (sorry...). I'm worried about missing dialogue during fast-paced scenes if I change languages. I'm used to watching subbed anime, but has anyone had trouble keeping up with the in-game subs? Really tempted to switch.
Just keep in mind you might miss some in-battle audio since scenes occasionally show up in there. Also not sure if they subtitled the FMVs either.
 
May 16, 2018
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So my game thinks I have two controllers connected, but I dont so one of my characters are stuck as 2p, Im on pc does anyone know how to fix this?
If you're playing by yourself, go to Artes and make sure that every other characters are set to "Automatic" if they are set in Semi Auto or Manual it will act as if there's another player using the keyboard or a gamepad plugged to your PC.
 
Jan 11, 2018
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I can't speak for Vesperia, but I was fine playing Berseria in Japanese with subtitles.
Just keep in mind you might miss some in-battle audio since scenes occasionally show up in there. Also not sure if they subtitled the FMVs either.
Ahhhhhhhhhh

I'll have to try it out. If I start noticing missed dialogue early on, I'm willing to restart, and if it's later I'll... just put up with it.

Thanks for the input, guys.
 
Nov 30, 2017
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Okay yeah if anyone having trouble with that wolf boss in the hills, just free run around him worked for me and using wolf strike to put him down a lot. Also Item spam helped too lol.
 
I'm seeing all these people say it runs great in handheld mode, but I'm playing it exclusively like that it and for me it runs pretty bad when walking around the world map o.O

Am I just more sensitive to framedrops? It's so distracting that I'm honestly considering trading it in to GameStop and picking up the XB1 version to play on my X.
uh oh, i haven't made it to the world map yet!
 
Jan 11, 2018
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This kinda sucks - anything related to Bonnie Pink's "Ring a Bell" is absent from the OST that came with the premium edition.

I thought it'd be the same as the 2008 release, but 4 tracks are missing (licencing issues?):

https://vgmdb.net/album/8767

Disc 2 / Track 25
Disc 4 / Tracks 13, 18 & 23

I'd initially hoped the intro "Ring a Bell" song would be on there, but hopes were shredded when I compared the track lists. And there's no actual list included in the package, which is bizarre. I guess they didn't want to spend money translating the Japanese titles of the original release.
 
Bought my Steam key from Razer Game Store for USD $31.99 since it is still cheaper than my regional pricing. Luckily it went well despite being my first checkout.

Looking forward to play it again as I poured nearly 120 hours on 360 version without any guides... will definitely use a guide this time so I don't missed out anything.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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This kinda sucks - anything related to Bonnie Pink's "Ring a Bell" is absent from the OST that came with the premium edition.

I thought it'd be the same as the 2008 release, but 4 tracks are missing (licencing issues?):

https://vgmdb.net/album/8767

Disc 2 / Track 25
Disc 4 / Tracks 13, 18 & 23

I'd initially hoped the intro "Ring a Bell" song would be on there, but hopes were shredded when I compared the track lists. And there's no actual list included in the package, which is bizarre. I guess they didn't want to spend money translating the Japanese titles of the original release.
Oh man, that really sucks. :(
 
Oct 25, 2017
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is their any advantage or point to playing in manual mode? i keep trying it, and i'm accidentally jumping a lot due to the camera angles.
Trust me, eventually you gonna want to switch to manual. Semi-auto may seem like a newbie friendly option, but when in crucial moment your character decides that he isn't close enough and charge in to get slapped, and in general taking away your ability to proactively use spacing to your advantage, you gonna be like "who thought semi-auto is a good idea?"
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Loved this game back in 08 and always wanted the enhanced version. How's the game on Switch so far?
Honestly not as bad as some people are making it out to be. Guess it comes down to personal preference. I mostly game on PC nowadays, so i can easily tell that the Switch version has some framerate hiccups here and there, but nothing unbearable. The celshaded artstyle really helps it stand out. My honest opinion is:
PC = best version for framerate/graphics
PS4 = best version if you don't have a PC/trophies if that's your thing
Switch = best version for portability

Hopefully a future patch or 2 will fix some of the framerate/pacing issues.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Tried out special k, but now I cant set my dsr factors like before. Where is the help forum for it?

Nevermind, just uninstalled it. Don't think I need it anyway right now.
 
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Trust me, eventually you gonna want to switch to manual. Semi-auto may seem like a newbie friendly option, but when in crucial moment your character decides that he isn't close enough and charge in to get slapped, and in general taking away your ability to proactively use spacing to your advantage, you gonna be like "who thought semi-auto is a good idea?"
wooooooooow, i think i'll just play in manual and get used to it. thanks for the tip!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I'm sorry, I had to change to Japanese voices. Troy Baker's Yuri is iconic, but the switches between the two actors was too distracting for me.

Yuri comes off differently in Japanese, but I like it. A slightly different take on the character.
 

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Oct 25, 2017
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I just want to throw in a random comment here for those unfamiliar, that Vesperia's combat changes considerably as you progress through the game and unlock more skill links and fatal strikes, etc. It never reaches the same fluidity as something like Berseria, but combat in hour 3 is not really indicative of what the game plays like throughout.

And yes Gattuso has always been a stupid difficulty spike haha. One of the hardest in the game relative to player level.
 
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Nov 12, 2017
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You won't notice anything strange if yer not someone that pays attention to that sort of stuff. It runs fine
I do not agree. I usually do not pay attention to this sort of issues, but this is definitively a very bad port, at least until they release a patch that fixes all these annoying technical issues. Which basically are framerate instability outside combats, and the stuttering that comes because of it.

Example: I'm at Halure town right now. When you are inside the inn, or in the mayor's house, the game runs at a wonderful framerate (most probably 60fps). But when you get out of the buildings, the contrast is brutal. Not only is the framerate drop, but the stuttering what annoys me.

I hope they release a patch to solve this issues as soon as possible.
 

JayBee

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Dec 6, 2018
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I do not agree. I usually do not pay attention to this sort of issues, but this is definitively a very bad port, at least until they release a patch that fixes all these annoying technical issues. Which basically are framerate instability outside combats, and the stuttering that comes because of it.

Example: I'm at Halure town right now. When you are inside the inn, or in the mayor's house, the game runs at a wonderful framerate (most probably 60fps). But when you get out of the buildings, the contrast is brutal. Not only is the framerate drop, but the stuttering what annoys me.

I hope they release a patch to solve this issues as soon as possible.
I guess the word should be sensetive then. I noticed it too at the beginning but nothing that makes the game worse. It's outside combat there where you're only running around exploring. Also I go back and forth with gens so that may be also why I dont find it much of an issue
 
Oct 1, 2018
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Did you skip through everything?
I'm pretty sure I did secondary stuff, but not all of them. It was a long time ago so I can't be certain. I have always been "fast-paced" when playing games without realizing it. But eh, i genuinely enjoyed it, that's the main thing !
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I see everyone talking favorably about Berseria's combat in relation to Vesperia's and as someone who is currently playing both simultaneously, I just don't get it.

I mean, yes Berseria's combat is snappy and fast but I'm 30 hours in and I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Granted, I stepped away from the game for about a year at about hour 20, so I'm sure I forgot most of the nuances but I never felt comfortable with the combat in that game.
 

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Oct 27, 2017
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I see everyone talking favorably about Berseria's combat in relation to Vesperia's and as someone who is currently playing both simultaneously, I just don't get it.

I mean, yes Berseria's combat is snappy and fast but I'm 30 hours in and I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Granted, I stepped away from the game for about a year at about hour 20, so I'm sure I forgot most of the nuances but I never felt comfortable with the combat in that game.
Berserias combat is very confusing. I never figured that one out.

Vesperias is superior
 
Nov 12, 2017
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I see everyone talking favorably about Berseria's combat in relation to Vesperia's and as someone who is currently playing both simultaneously, I just don't get it.

I mean, yes Berseria's combat is snappy and fast but I'm 30 hours in and I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Granted, I stepped away from the game for about a year at about hour 20, so I'm sure I forgot most of the nuances but I never felt comfortable with the combat in that game.
I haven't gotten a chance to pop in Vesperia though I picked it up yesterday, will start today, but Berseria is fast/snappy as stated but it has a serious case of button mashing. Yet at the same time the game tries to go too in depth with the systems. Mashing won't get you through every fight but will get you through a lot, particularly normal encounters. It eventually got boring, I didn't feel like even completing the EX dungeon, or cameo fight on Hard or whatever difficulty I was at just because the combat wasn't pushing me anymore and the level design is bad.

Love Berseria for its story/cast/writing, one of the best in JRPGs ever but I didn't think Berseria or Zestiria had particularly memorable battle systems. Last Tales I enjoyed a lot with combat is Xillia 2. Side note but also part of the reason, they need to bring back air combat.
 

SantaC

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Oct 27, 2017
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Vesperia is so good. It is even better than i remember it. Loving every minut of this.


I am really really hoping ToV2 gets announced at Tales fest this june.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Looks like I won't get the game until Monday.

DPD don't deliver on Saturdays unless you pay extra and I doubt Namco did. It will be next weekend before I get a change to play it. I waited 10 years another week won't kill me.
 

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Oct 28, 2017
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Vesperia's combat is just...slow. And incredibly clunky on top of that, since it's from the early 3D combat days where they still didn't know how to do free run properly. It moves at like 1/4 of the speed of something like Berseria. And it's not the methodical kind of deliberate slowness. It's just Tales of- combat. Only very simple, clunky, and reaaaally slow. Also it's still TP trash which is a system that never served the kind of combat they are going for in these games well.

Even if you don't get all of the mechanics (and these are like, 60 hour games, meaty combat mechanics means you always have new stuff to learn), the fluidity and pace of combat is obviously so much better in later games.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Happened to go shopping in the otaku district of Nagoya, man this game was sold out everywhere. Then again it was mostly smaller shops that don't specialize in games persay, but still. Good for Tales.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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How's the performance/resolution on the Switch version?

I'm expecting a botch job from Namco here (Switch should be eating this game for breakfast, even in handheld mode), but would be happy to hear otherwise!
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Vesperia's combat is just...slow. And incredibly clunky on top of that, since it's from the early 3D combat days where they still didn't know how to do free run properly. It moves at like 1/4 of the speed of something like Berseria. And it's not the methodical kind of deliberate slowness. It's just Tales of- combat. Only very simple, clunky, and reaaaally slow. Also it's still TP trash which is a system that never served the kind of combat they are going for in these games well.

Even if you don't get all of the mechanics (and these are like, 60 hour games, meaty combat mechanics means you always have new stuff to learn), the fluidity and pace of combat is obviously so much better in later games.
Team Destiny always delivered significantly better combat.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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I see everyone talking favorably about Berseria's combat in relation to Vesperia's and as someone who is currently playing both simultaneously, I just don't get it.

I mean, yes Berseria's combat is snappy and fast but I'm 30 hours in and I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Granted, I stepped away from the game for about a year at about hour 20, so I'm sure I forgot most of the nuances but I never felt comfortable with the combat in that game.
Eh, Berseria is (in theory) just an evolution of Graces F's system.

Martial Arts are your Alpha-Arte equivalent in Graces in terms of how you can set them up in combo hits, and is essentially a more flashy version of mashing the attack button in Vesperia. Vesperia, Abyss, and Symphonia were all "use 3-7 normal hits, combo into arte, maybe combo into better arte, repeat." Even Xillia 1 and 2 does this. Zestiria and Berseria kind of ditches the "use 3-7 normal hits" part of the equation and folds in artes with different elemental properties, weaknesses, etc into your main source of damage.

I honestly think Berseria is way better, because going back to Vesperia made me realize that the TP system isn't great, and the "stunlock enemy with normal hits into artes" is kind of a boring way to do combat in a 3D open field.

Of course, Graces F's battle system beats the brakes out of any of these games so badly that it's not even funny
 
Oct 26, 2017
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Vesperia was the best of its time. I still remember it being amazing after you get more tools. Fatal strikes, huge combos, the huge variety of artes all the characters have, etc.

I hope this remaster sells well. Only because I love the game.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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The thing with Vesperia's combat is that it does start out slow and clunky, until you start unlocking skills that let you chain artes and you end up decimating everything on the battlefield. As for Berseria I never got the feeling that I ever understood how the combat actually worked and just button-mashed my way to victory for the whole game.

I just got to the first real ps3 only substantial content:
On 360 you just entered Barbos tavern and that was it but now you need to go through a not too lengthy sewer dungeon with some backstory as to how the guild union was found, and it was actually a pretty neat slice of world building.
On OG Vesperia the Union was just a thing that existed and that was it.

And also I finally got to play as Flynn, I already saw a ton of videos of the ps3 version so I already knew that I was going to like him, but after having played as him I can't wait until I actually get him permanently (at the end of the game but oh well).