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Tales of Vesperia "Definitive Edition" |OT| Yeah, that one....
- Thread starter Cornbread78
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May as well. This is my second foray into the Tales games. First time, years ago, I got about 3/4 through Abyss, but never got a handle on the combat and eventually dropped it. Vesperia's is clicking for me, though.
Do you like action-based combat at all? Even if you don't, there's an Easy Mode and cheat DLC so you could experience the story.
The secret mission for the desert boss are pretty annoying as my party was well equipped and slightly overlevel... that I killed it before getting the secret mission.
Ended up reloading my saves and set Quarter Damage skill for my other party members and use Yuri's Severing Fang to destroy the core.
I would say go for it. If you're a massive fan of the genre it makes sense to try at least one game in each major series, right? And if you were only ever going to play one Tales game, Vesperia is definitely a great choice.
Though I guess it depends on what has turned you off from the series before. Tales games have been criticized for being generic, maybe. But they really nail the feeling of going on a great adventure with a group of fun and colorful characters, which is one of my personal favorite things about JRPGs.
You get a trophy and I believe an outfit for completing them. However, it mostly just gives you increased rewards for that battle. You can go back and do all of them later when you're better equipped to do them, such as the
boat fight with Zagi and knocking him overboard using Overlimit
Man, what is the penalty for playing on Easy battle? Do I get less EXP and Grade or something?
I'm like half way through the game and these battles are already turning into sponge fights, with every damn monster having 20k health and there are 6 of them. It's getting tiring.
Also not feeling the story at all. Every time the game goes to explain something theirs an OMG BIG NOISE SURPRISE and the person doesn't have time to explain what just happened. This had led to the last like 14 plot points going left unexplained. It's almost comical at this point, like seriously EVERY fucking time someone is about to tell you the smallest explanation it happens. It's bad writing. Plain and simple.
The characters and visuals are great though. Just not sure this is going to hold my attention once Anthem comes out...I might have to rush through the rest.
I'm like half way through the game and these battles are already turning into sponge fights, with every damn monster having 20k health and there are 6 of them. It's getting tiring.
Also not feeling the story at all. Every time the game goes to explain something theirs an OMG BIG NOISE SURPRISE and the person doesn't have time to explain what just happened. This had led to the last like 14 plot points going left unexplained. It's almost comical at this point, like seriously EVERY fucking time someone is about to tell you the smallest explanation it happens. It's bad writing. Plain and simple.
The characters and visuals are great though. Just not sure this is going to hold my attention once Anthem comes out...I might have to rush through the rest.
Ran into Don Whitehorse -- not crazy about the new voice, but at least it's not a Leblanc trashfire.
Also, man, some of these boss fights are way tougher than I remember them being. Gattsuo was one thing, but throwing those two knights right after a boss fight with no save point? Brutal.
Despite the risks Vesperia takes, the story's ultimately an aimless wild goose chase. Easily the most frustrating thing about it -- I'd have no qualms calling it the finest Tales game if not for that.
Also, man, some of these boss fights are way tougher than I remember them being. Gattsuo was one thing, but throwing those two knights right after a boss fight with no save point? Brutal.
Despite the risks Vesperia takes, the story's ultimately an aimless wild goose chase. Easily the most frustrating thing about it -- I'd have no qualms calling it the finest Tales game if not for that.
Someone compiled this chart of all of the writers for the series back before Zestiria came out, and it mentions that Vesperia had multiple writers going about it the way an anime would be written, which kind of explains why the story feels so disjointed at times.
My favorite party setup is Yuri, Estelle, Judy, and Raven.
Rita is too OP so I only use her for boss fights.
I'm about 11 hours in, which is where I dropped Abyss, and wow, it's like night and day. I'm actually enjoying the combat instead of just tolerating it, the characters have so much more chemistry and positivity with each other, and overall I'm just having a way better time with it.
I'm not sure if it'll reach the heights that Symphonia did for me, but I'm so glad I gave this game a chance after hating Abyss.
I could see being annoyed with the story, since at least so far it does seem like it's a series of running from weird explosion/crisis to weird explosion/crisis and the characters just kind of roll with it. And the music is really not my favorite, it seems to alternate between grating and aggressively generic.
Overall really liking it though.
I'm not sure if it'll reach the heights that Symphonia did for me, but I'm so glad I gave this game a chance after hating Abyss.
I could see being annoyed with the story, since at least so far it does seem like it's a series of running from weird explosion/crisis to weird explosion/crisis and the characters just kind of roll with it. And the music is really not my favorite, it seems to alternate between grating and aggressively generic.
Overall really liking it though.
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Anyone having issues using Artes set to the right analog stick? It's so finnicky. I'll clearly input one direction and it will register another.
Edit: seems like it's not just me: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/241052-tales-of-vesperia-definitive-edition/77395084
Anyone having issues using Artes set to the right analog stick? It's so finnicky. I'll clearly input one direction and it will register another.
Edit: seems like it's not just me: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/241052-tales-of-vesperia-definitive-edition/77395084
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I'm not having any issues with the right stick (on the ps4) but boy can I not get the left stick up to work but like 5% of the time.
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to be fair I haven't had great luck with action canceling either. I can get my character to top the delay window after attacks but I get stuck in my guard instead. I mean it's better, but I can't for the life of me cancel out and attack in a reasonable time lol.
Omg I completely forgot about Regaey existing.
And yeah the right stick on Pro is finicky af, I've used many unwanted moves.
And yeah the right stick on Pro is finicky af, I've used many unwanted moves.
Any tips on making the combat more enjoyable? It feels like every encounter against more enemies than players is bogged down. Like Yuri's swing is a little slow and not sweeping enough to get much distance. I end up spamming the ranged arte a decent big but I don't think that's likely how it's meant to be played.
I'm a bit over halfway through I think, and there's not a whole on the user's end fundamentally aside from attack cancels. The rest seems to be QoL stuff learned through Skills or just better Artes. Agility also seems to effect attack speed (?), so Agility food could help too. A skill that really helps in the fights you're talking about is Super Armor during Base Artes. I don't recall the name.
God dammit. I lost like an hour of progress tonight when a skit hardlocked the Switch. I was like two feet away from a save, too. Ugh. It wasn't anything difficult that I lost, but it's frustrating.
Fix your shit, Bamco.
Fix your shit, Bamco.
Jesus. And here I was lookin for a skill called "Special 2" or something.
I should've known better, lol.
Be glad that there even is the skill Special 1. :P Most past entries had their Mystic Artes hidden with crazy requirements. The Special 2 requirements are not that bad in comparison. :)
For example in Phantasia:
Or Tales of Eternia:
Symphonia only had 3 Mystic Artes at first, but got more with the PS2 release
Also protip: let Yuri learn the Hit+ (I think it's called like that) skill which let's you hammer the attack button when you use his Mystic Arte 1 and demolish the enemy with additional hits (I fucking love that move).
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Crashed again for a 3rd time lol
Had a skill on Karol that made him extremely hard to stagger but he moved like a snail, and immediately crashed several steps into the battle.
Luckily I saved like a few minutes before hand, but I get the lesson switch, I'm not going to fucking use him again aside from the colliseum.
Reminder for y'all to save every chance y'all get
Had a skill on Karol that made him extremely hard to stagger but he moved like a snail, and immediately crashed several steps into the battle.
Luckily I saved like a few minutes before hand, but I get the lesson switch, I'm not going to fucking use him again aside from the colliseum.
Reminder for y'all to save every chance y'all get
Was really jaring to run across a random towns person who started making fun of Rita for being flat chested. Was kind of gross and tonally different than anything else in the game up to that point.
Thanks for the reply. I'm about 12 hours in and I'm trudging along. I'm liking the story and characters a lot, but I feel like a scrub in combat, even fights I win soundly don't feel like my ability as a player contributed much. Over limit feels a bit better but I've been using it sparingly - should I use it more often? I've mostly saved for boss fights
Yeah, it's unfortunately something that comes up occasionally. For example, one of the win quotes when you have Estelle and Judith in the party together goes something like this:
Estelle: They're... bouncing.
Judith: What are you staring at?
Estelle: I wish I could bounce.
Judith: What are you staring at?
Estelle: I wish I could bounce.
Oh yeah, I love the extra hits. Also whatever gives the next tier of OVL, so I can use mystic artes with only 2 bars, which means heading into a fight with 4 bars means you can basically do the same thing again right after and nearly have a third one when that's done. I usually end up doing ~4 mystic artes on a boss now.
Especially noticeable with the new skits but the new voiceover during cutscenes are pretty consistent with the existing dialog.
Not bad, I expected worst. A lot of these techs usage will be easy to get out of the way once I get Risky Ring. Then it's minimum damage + zaphias area time. Maybe Repede's 800 agility will be annoying but I wonder if eating a "Salad" before the fight will help as it gives the whole party 2000 agility for the duration of the fight.
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Vesperia has like the easiest Mystic Arte requirements out of all Tales of I think. :) You can get 800 agility with Repede on a first playthrough.
According to the credits, it was Naoki Yamamoto (Hearts, Xillia 2, Zestiria) and Masaki Hiramatsu (Rebirth, DotNW).
I couldn't remember this being on the original 360 but it's been a while since I played that one but the other night with Judith and Estelle in the party the winning quote was something like;
Estelle: ' Judith they're bouncing'
Estelle: ' I wish mine could bounce like that'
WTF why does Namco think Estelle needs to say this?!?!
Estelle: ' Judith they're bouncing'
Estelle: ' I wish mine could bounce like that'
WTF why does Namco think Estelle needs to say this?!?!
Did I mention how bosses spamming their over limit every 20 seconds is a load of bullshit? Because it's a load of bullshit.
Also, what's with some bosses in this game having some sort of super guard that your attacks just bounce off of and every single guide omitting this detail? I remember two bosses from earlier in act 1 having this sort of thing and now I'm fighting one near the end of the game, and I just got curious and looked up how to deal with it, but I looked through 8 different guides, only one of them even mentioned it and all it really said was "he does have a shield though."
Also, what's with some bosses in this game having some sort of super guard that your attacks just bounce off of and every single guide omitting this detail? I remember two bosses from earlier in act 1 having this sort of thing and now I'm fighting one near the end of the game, and I just got curious and looked up how to deal with it, but I looked through 8 different guides, only one of them even mentioned it and all it really said was "he does have a shield though."
Okay how do I use the second set of artes? I made the item for it and I can change the page and assign artes. I assigned ghost wolf to standard L but pressing L doesn't do anything.
Duke is the star of this game. Very interesting character.
This has been a thing with most of the tales games.
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This has been a thing with most of the tales games.
People with the physical copies of ToV on PS4 or Switch, was there an update to download? If yes, what's the size?
like 1.3gb on ps4 and 550mb on switch if I recall correctly.
As far as I know there hasn't been a second update on the switch to fix its issues yet but I'm playing on the ps4 so I can't be sure :P
Okay thanks. Disappointing for a physical copy of a remaster. Will wait for a pricedrop then.
eh did you play the previous tales games? In Tales of the Abyss they talked about Tears melons. I think Vesperia is acutally the most toned down of them all.
Yes, it's a great JRPG and is one of the most gorgeous games on the Switch.