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Tales of Vesperia "Definitive Edition" |OT| Yeah, that one....
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So, guys, I'm only 4hs in. (just arrived at that between mountains city: the sealed city of something... )
But I'm finding the combats kinda brainless right now: all I do is keep smashing the "b" button and sometimes "a" (I'm playing the Switch version)
I heard so much about the combat system, that at least for now I'm kinda disappointed.
Will that change as the game progresses?
(graphics and story are pretty good so).
But I'm finding the combats kinda brainless right now: all I do is keep smashing the "b" button and sometimes "a" (I'm playing the Switch version)
I heard so much about the combat system, that at least for now I'm kinda disappointed.
Will that change as the game progresses?
(graphics and story are pretty good so).
Anyone please? I'm kinda stuck. If I don't activate this the elevators won't work apparently and I won't be able to go back.
Yes like with any other RPG too. You will get more combo stuff, more options, new features and everything in the next 10-15 hours and after that you can do brutal shit with corresponding skills. It just takes a bit of time which makes sense as that is a long game.
I am very early in the game and have reached a first difficulty peak in the Boss fight against the wolf beast that
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Any tips? I might try an change the strategy settings since everybody keeps attacking though the beast has crazy attack and counter attack patterns.
has escaped the attack on Halure
Any tips? I might try an change the strategy settings since everybody keeps attacking though the beast has crazy attack and counter attack patterns.
I guess you mean in the context of the battle arena? I realized that it gives you an advantage if it gets paralyzed by one of the four flowers. But I haven't discovered how to trigger that correctly. Hitting the plants will usually make myself get paralyzed.
Quoting myself from last page:
You could also lower the difficulty for that one fight. He is a bit of a newbie killer in this game and frustrates many people not being good at Tales of games already. There is also no punshiment for lowering the difficulty for a short time frame. :)
Gattuso... Best filter ever...
Maybe it sounds as a I'm mocking new people in this game... but I remember I had to fight him 5 or 6 time... I think I had to grind until I got that fire arte for Yuri. Of course I tried to punh the flowers and I got stunnned, lol. Is funny how after that fight the game is relatively easy, at least the main path.
And about the critics on the fight system ("I'm 30 minutes in, I find the fighting is dull") give it time, they teach one thing at a time. Later you got skills and artes that let you do insane combos.
And I'm talking about the original Xbox 360 game. I'm eager to play this new version, but you know, adult stuff and all that (and financial struggles) so maybe when I had a chance I will play the definitive version.
Maybe it sounds as a I'm mocking new people in this game... but I remember I had to fight him 5 or 6 time... I think I had to grind until I got that fire arte for Yuri. Of course I tried to punh the flowers and I got stunnned, lol. Is funny how after that fight the game is relatively easy, at least the main path.
And about the critics on the fight system ("I'm 30 minutes in, I find the fighting is dull") give it time, they teach one thing at a time. Later you got skills and artes that let you do insane combos.
And I'm talking about the original Xbox 360 game. I'm eager to play this new version, but you know, adult stuff and all that (and financial struggles) so maybe when I had a chance I will play the definitive version.
Thats another great advise, thanks!
I am not worthy :D
Lol, I was attacking Gatusso with the wind arte... And Gatusso is strong against wind!!!! I learned that in my third fight. u_u
Ok I really, really like this game but good god, the sidequest system is absolute BS.
So I learned that you can fight Kratos from Symphonia in the game and I was so incredibly excited to read that. Turns out that to fight him, you need access to a post game dungeon that you can only reach if you follow specific steps such as going to Phaero's nest after defeating Estelle but before going to Zaude. As far as I've read, if you miss this extremely specific window, the whole quest is nuked and the dungeon, Kratos and the 200 men challenge (so all the cameo costumes) are gone. Who the hell thought this was a smart design choice ???
I think I read the dungeon is unmissable in this version of the game.
So I digged further and people seem to be still a bit confused but it seems you are right, they added with the PS3 version an alternative way to access it. Thanks mate =)
I still find it strange they would make something like this missable in the 360 verison.
For NG+ i've been using a guide on gamefaqs. It's like Kouli's and it notes them in the exact order you can do them and as early as you can do them. It's been working perfectly and I've followed it since I started my second playthrough.
I got there again tonight and just stood on them and pressed X so...I don't know why it won't work for you.
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Reached Dahngrest and the start of the next dungeon. Best city by far.
Love where the story is going and the party dinamics, I've heard the guild stuff is pretty inconsequential in the long run, but I really like it. Yuri and Karol's relationship continues to be the best.
Also, finally got Raven!!! I love his character design and his personality and he was the character I was looking forward the most, it took a while but he didn't disapoint! I love playing as him, too.
Can't wait to continue this journey.
Love where the story is going and the party dinamics, I've heard the guild stuff is pretty inconsequential in the long run, but I really like it. Yuri and Karol's relationship continues to be the best.
Also, finally got Raven!!! I love his character design and his personality and he was the character I was looking forward the most, it took a while but he didn't disapoint! I love playing as him, too.
Can't wait to continue this journey.
Probably late by now but you have to activate the scene at the bottom of those stairs right before Duke. I forgot all about this and was running around trying find out how to do it. Forgot how much I hated this dungeon.
Does anyone know where to go after the crystal forest? I literally went over the whole map 20 times and no cutscene or anything.
Man, so the costume DLC doesn't unlock the cameo costumes for beating the 200 man melee with everyone nor the christmas themed costumes for that Repede minigame that I suck at. RIP. No Santa's little helpers for me (really don't like that minigame lmao, it took me like 5 tries just to get Repede's costume).
Anyway, is it me or is Estelle's second mystic arte really weak? I used it against an optional boss and it did like 18k damage, meanwhile Rita used Ancient Catastrophe and did 19k easy.
Anyway, is it me or is Estelle's second mystic arte really weak? I used it against an optional boss and it did like 18k damage, meanwhile Rita used Ancient Catastrophe and did 19k easy.
Reliewese Hollow, its the bottom right continent that's only mountain-ish there's another dungeon there.
Anyway, finished the Labyrinth of Memories, now clearing up the 100 mans and 200 mans melee then it's Necropolis time.
What's Necropolis? Is that the dungeon who's entrance is in Zaude?
Just wait until you get one of the later characters.
They have a combat style that is very random (like seriously a lot of their moves are based off random effects)
and 4 different styles that change how a lot of moves work
though more seriously though
if you don't mind some move spoilers give this a watch
it will give you an idea of what the combat can eventually become.
And now Yuri
Now it is becoming clear that the main theme of the game could be the different view about what justice is, with divergent opinions between Yuri and Flynn. And I'm really liking it, I hope it continues to be good (I'm around 20 hours or just under 20, I don't know how much I have advanced on the main story).
also killed Cumore
^You're roughly halfway through the game plot.
I can't remember who asked for a spoiler-free guide but here's the link for the first two acts: https://hueyyeng.github.io/VesperiaGuide/missables_spoiler_free/
Just don't accidentally navigate to the usual guide as it is spoiler festival with screenshots.
Also there are quite a few typo/grammar mistakes for the new dialogue text (more obvious in Act 3) especially missing whitespace. Quite a shoddy job as Patty name also lacking the whitespace in the status screen!
Yeah, I learned about this after I asked in other places. I actually just finished the Fell Arms sidequest and it leads me to this conclusion:
I usually prefer to not get personal but whoever designed this sidequest can go to F*CKING HELL!
The first few Fell Arms are actually not much of a problem, sure you have to backtrack and is annoying but is nothing too gamebreaking. However, once that you get to the last dungeon you start to notice how obnoxious it actually can get because all of the necessary steps you have to do to make it work (the aforementioned cutscene being a clear example) and it forces you to go through a bunch of stairs that heavily break the pacing of the game.
But even that doesn't compare to the misery that is getting both Flynn and Patty's Fell Arms.
First of all, you need to activate a really specific cutscene in Estelle's room to access to it (another of those) and then go through extra dungeons known as Firmament and Existence consisting of 10 floors each. Those dungeons are torture incarnated by the way because their gimmick is that in each floor you have to go through a certain amount of rooms with a battle segment in each one, the enemies are not too hard to beat but the fact that you have to do it constantly is incredibly tiresome, not to mention that there are a few enemies that are immune to certain attacks and so you will have to change your party to accomodate to those fights (which means more wasting time) and to add to the fun there's a time limit in each room and the enemies will respawn if you take too long and poor of you if those rooms contain the enemies with immunity. Oh, and also Patty and Flynn's Fell Arms are in very specific rooms and floors and if you messed up and went to a different floor you will be obligated to do it all over again because these goddamn stages don't give you the choice to go up a floor to try again.
But worst of all, worst of all is the lack of save points here. They are very arbitrary in which floor they're located and pray to every God you know that the game doesn't crash on you before you get to one because this is a very common issue in EVERY release of this title (Seriously, it happened to me at least 4 times here).
Who actually thought this was fun? Who actually thought this was even appropriate? I know sidequests can be time consuming but someone must have realized that this wasn't simply a good idea, especially because you need those Fell Arms to get the true final battle. I hope the responsible for this never did another sidequest again.
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By the way, I already went to the final boss and beat his first 2 forms but the third one, the Fell Arms one, automatically kicked my ass.
I'm around level 65 and it seems like I will have to grind now. Is there a recommended equipment for this battle? The boss uses quite a few status altering effects like I think Weak and some that negate Artes which makes his fight more annoying than actually difficult.
I'm around level 65 and it seems like I will have to grind now. Is there a recommended equipment for this battle? The boss uses quite a few status altering effects like I think Weak and some that negate Artes which makes his fight more annoying than actually difficult.
Is it possible to face the third form the first time you challenge him? Because I've already unlocked the secret dungeon that hosts the final Fell Arms but still not entered the final dungeon of the game.
I finished the game and completed all of the secret missions today. I've pretty much done everything except for the EX dungeons, so I think I'm satisfied with stopping now.
Not unless you get all the Fell Arms and two are in the final dungeon.
Can always equip your melee fighters with Amulets to help with the status ailment.
Thank you.
Just had my first crash... right next to a save point before I could get to it. Harsh man.
All in all loving the game so far. Quoi Woods.
So, I'm around level 67 now and I can defeat the first two forms of the final boss with relative ease (despite that the second form spams a pretty BS Mystic Arte that pretty much wipes the entire party) but the third form KEEPS kicking my ass.
Recommended level for it?
Recommended level for it?
Raven is a pretty good healer too if you configure the AI to use healing artes... other than that just configure the AI to use healing items and set the Item Thrower skill if available to allow the use of items on other characters.
Dumb part is that you must learn and/or equip that skill.
Yeah, I have a bunch of characters with item thrower. I had to switch to allow mode for items because they would absolutely eat through the TP restoring Gels.
Raven does have love shot, I've never really tried running with him as healer. He seems to be a lot more offense focused than Natalia from Abyss.
He's a good healer but IMO he burns through TP pretty fast. I can't remember if you have an emerald ring by this point but if you do, give it to raven if you use him as healer. Anyway, it's pretty normal to be over-reliant on Estelle, she's the staple healer of this title so its hard to not want to have her in your party.
It's even harder if you make her learn Nightingale, which is even better than revitalize at lower tp cost.
I'll double check.
I did Mt Temza with both Karol and Raven in the party which worked well enough for healing. I imagine when I get Flynn I can sub him in too.
Flynn's pretty decent at healing too even if he only has first aid. That's what I like with Vesperia, you get a lot of healer options and you can still make it work.
Am I crazy, or does the skit "Still a Lot to Learn" appear twice? The one where Raven and Judy screw with Karol and Estelle about the artisan that always seems to travel right to the place where the group is. I've seen it first in Nordapolica after getting the
and again a short while later after returning to Aspio to get info about Myorzo.
airship
Just lost half an hour of progress to a hard lock on Switch. Most of it was dialogue but I'm going to have to redo a boss fight too.
Third crash I've had throughout my 30 hour playthrough. Kind of annoying.
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I got Nightingale for Estelle and Cure for Flynn so healing is a lot easier now regardless of who I go with.
Third crash I've had throughout my 30 hour playthrough. Kind of annoying.
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I got Nightingale for Estelle and Cure for Flynn so healing is a lot easier now regardless of who I go with.