Taylor Swift Accused of Cultural Appropriation For Using a Marching Band

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People are already committed to blaming black people for alt right nonsense because they think we’re overreacting or too woke or whatever dog whistle they want to use.

This is exactly why black twitter topics should be banned onhere cause TeamMayo shows their asses every time
Whaaaa?
 

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If you check the Twitter replies on Desus tweet, someone literally tried to say that Fleetwood Mac wasn't a household name lol
Lol, at saying he. Well, "he's" only sold over a hundred million records. Maybe with a little effort from them people will start remembering their babe.

Beyonce even sampled Steve Nick's during the destiny's child days. Stevie was in the video too.
 

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People are already committed to blaming black people for alt right nonsense because they think we’re overreacting or too woke or whatever dog whistle they want to use.

This is exactly why black twitter topics should be banned onhere cause TeamMayo shows their asses every time
I never thought about it before, but yea I would be all down for prohibiting topics on the premise of tweets from Black Twitter. Since you really do get the worst type of people who will claim people are being too woke. I would argue that most black people on this forum understand the framing of the critiques Taylor Swift is getting. But having non-black people show their ass is exhausting. I would imagine if the community thread voted, we could perhaps have stricter rules on threads made on tweets of Black Twitter.
 

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When you're so woke you're actually asleep

Fucking morons, isn't there enough real shit to be worried about than being mad that someone used a marching band in their music?

What do people think of Texas A&M's marching band that has been around for decades? Lots of white people in that band.
 
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I never thought about it before, but yea I would be all down for prohibiting topics on the premise of tweets from Black Twitter. Since you really do get the worst type of people who will claim people are being too woke. I would argue that most black people on this forum understand the framing of the critiques Taylor Swift is getting. But having non-black people show their ass is exhausting. I would imagine if the community thread voted, we could perhaps have stricter rules on threads made on tweets of Black Twitter.
This isn't a thread made solely about tweets on Black Twitter - there are articles and hit pieces written on the matter, otherwise it wouldn't have been threaded.
 

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ok off topic but this thread just reminded me of that great outkast song featuring a marching band

 

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Black Twitter got some of ya shook if you are taking this too seriously.

And by this, I mean criticism of Taylor Swift from people on social media. I see we started the "outrage culture at it again" phase. When in reality people were poking at Taylor for mimicking Beyonce once again.
And Beyonce stole from Fleetwood Mac who stole from probably someone else. originality In the arts and sciences is a myth
 

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People always eager to go in on "oh it's just bitch eating crackers mode" when a billionaire gets criticized for exploiting his workers but a handful of black randos on Twitter make some cracks and everyone's acting like they blew up the fuckin' Lincoln Memorial or some shit

TSwift is like, whatever, but you still get plenty of racist white folks all over the internet acting like Beyonce is the death of music and not the single most innovating artist in the pop sphere currently working, and, like, that's where copying parts of her style without giving credit is a huge fuckin' issue
 

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English is not my first language and for some reason I thought "marching band" was some sort of new clothing accessory and spent like a solid minute looking at the picture trying to figure it out what it was LMAO.
 

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I'm waiting for the PhD thesis on why Black Twitter clowning white people should not be used a thought piece or a premise for a forum thread since all nuance is lost when discussing the topic with people who don't engage in Black Twitter.

Yes, culture appropriation and Taylor's swift artistic design can be discussed. But most people who are discussing the issue are just having fun.

It's like me discussing a topic in a barbershop or with my boys, versus me presenting on it in an academic setting.


It's all good.
People are already committed to blaming black people for alt right nonsense because they think we’re overreacting or too woke or whatever dog whistle they want to use.

This is exactly why black twitter topics should be banned onhere cause TeamMayo shows their asses every time
The Nylon article seems to take the topic pretty seriously. I guess the OP could have structured the OP better, separating the Twitter jokes from the article, but would you think the article itself shouldn't be discussed outside of Black Twitter?

For Beyoncé, for Black folks, Black marching bands are our legacy, and should be deployed with pride and context. Swift used her marching band to tell one of the dudes from Panic! at the Disco that he'll never find another lover like her. And she did so in a performance that feels like it exists only because Beyoncé made drumlines cute again for 2019.

And that's why Swift's show is worse than just mere copying. Cultural appropriation is a form of disrespect and oppression when it borrows surface-level elements from a practice or art form without honoring the history, legacy, or significance of the group that owns it.
Here's my question - are marching bands owned by black culture? Because I honestly don't know shit about marching bands.
 

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what

it's a stereotype that white people love mayo and not season their chicken

yall are reading into this shit way too much
The Breakfast Club (Charlamagne) is trying to "add" to this stereotype because of the CDC's tweet this week advising people not to wash chicken/meat before cooking.

This isn't a thread made solely about tweets on Black Twitter - there are articles and hit pieces written on the matter, otherwise it wouldn't have been threaded.
"Hit pieces" based on (Black) Twitter comments.
 

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Black Twitter got some of ya shook if you are taking this too seriously.

And by this, I mean criticism of Taylor Swift from people on social media. I see we started the "outrage culture at it again" phase. When in reality people were poking at Taylor for mimicking Beyonce once again.
I mean I doubt anyone is taking this all that seriously. Posting in a topic about it on a forum doesn't really show a ton of emotional investment
 

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I mean I doubt anyone is taking this all that seriously. Posting in a topic about it on a forum doesn't really show a ton of emotional investment
Nope. You have people posting about how too woke (TM) people are. When in reality once you cut through the noise the majority of people discussing the topic are having a laugh.

Okay, but the critique by NYLON is pretty detached from it and the Breakfast Club snippet goes a lot deeper than just twitter.
Then the OP should only have the NYLON article included and not the majority of the OP being content from digital creators of Black Twitter.
 

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People always eager to go in on "oh it's just bitch eating crackers mode" when a billionaire gets criticized for exploiting his workers but a handful of black randos on Twitter make some cracks and everyone's acting like they blew up the fuckin' Lincoln Memorial or some shit

TSwift is like, whatever, but you still get plenty of racist white folks all over the internet acting like Beyonce is the death of music and not the single most innovating artist in the pop sphere currently working, and, like, that's where copying parts of her style without giving credit is a huge fuckin' issue
You seriously think Taylor is copying Beyonce by having a marching band?

Then the OP should only have the NYLON article included and not the majority of the OP being content from digital creators of Black Twitter.
Twitter users are digital creators now? I liken most twitter users (myself included) as shitposters.
 

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Nope. You have people posting about how too woke (TM) people are. When in reality once you cut through the noise the majority of people discussing the topic are having a laugh.
Yeah, most people are kidding. Some of the articles certainly don't come across that way, talking about how it is actually a huge issue. Even though the articles are sourcing jokey tweets, they editorialize it into seeming like people truly take have an issue with it. Like several people in this thread apparently do.
 

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TSwift is like, whatever, but you still get plenty of racist white folks all over the internet acting like Beyonce is the death of music and not the single most innovating artist in the pop sphere currently working, and, like, that's where copying parts of her style without giving credit is a huge fuckin' issue
Using a marching band isn't copying her style.
 
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People always eager to go in on "oh it's just bitch eating crackers mode" when a billionaire gets criticized for exploiting his workers but a handful of black randos on Twitter make some cracks and everyone's acting like they blew up the fuckin' Lincoln Memorial or some shit
That's how these threads always go. A majority of these tweets are very obvious jokes, not sure how people are missing that.
I know why but still
 

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If you check the Twitter replies on Desus tweet, someone literally tried to say that Fleetwood Mac wasn't a household name lol
unless you're cutting out everyone who's too young to qualify for social security they ain't wrong. pretty sure the kids aren't exactly flocking to grab copies of Rumors
 

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You spun the hell out of it with the thread title. I've seen people dragging her for just "Copying BeyChella"

Nowhere have I ever seen Cultural Appropriation pop up as a term.

I'm claiming OP is exaggerating the fuck out of this
 
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Nope. You have people posting about how too woke (TM) people are. When in reality once you cut through the noise the majority of people discussing the topic are having a laugh.

Then the OP should only have the NYLON article included and not the majority of the OP being content from digital creators of Black Twitter.
I feel obligated to give people the full context, including the reason why the NYLON piece was written in the first place.

I don't think stifling discussion on cultural matters like this is going to do any good as long as people aren't being antagonistic. If they are, punish them individually.
 
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You spun the hell out of it with the thread title. I've seen people dragging her for just "Copying BeyChella"

Nowhere have I ever seen Cultural Appropriation pop up as a term.

I'm claiming OP is exaggerating the fuck out of this
Please read the full OP and the links I posted where Swift is called out for Cultural Appropriation + being a colonialist apparently.
 

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You seriously think Taylor is copying Beyonce by having a marching band?
I mean, a little? Not, like, so much that I'm gonna go out here and write some thousand word essay trying to pull a Kanye, but I'm not gonna blame someone watching that gossiping about how it's like what Beyonce did but not as good. This isn't a hill I'm dying on and, like, I don't think most of the people poking fun at her are either.

unless you're cutting out everyone who's too young to qualify for social security they ain't wrong. pretty sure the kids aren't exactly flocking to grab copies of Rumors
"Fleetwood Mac? Ain't that the band Greta Van Fleet is ripping off?"
 

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Did Isaac Newton appropriate mathematics by using Hindu-Arabic numerals in his work on The Principia?

some of you have this weird understanding of culture as if its this tangible thing that is isolated from each other. As if its a physical thing that is owned by a certain "arbitrary, ambiguous" group
 
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The Nylon article seems to take the topic pretty seriously. I guess the OP could have structured the OP better, separating the Twitter jokes from the article, but would you think the article itself shouldn't be discussed outside of Black Twitter?



Here's my question - are marching bands owned by black culture? Because I honestly don't know shit about marching bands.
Take a few minutes and look at the video a user posted a page back. No one is implying marching bands as a whole but there is a distinct difference in a marching band and what Beyoncé performed with. If you can see the difference I don’t know what to say
 

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Ghostland Observatory played with the UT marching band at ACL like a decade ago, it was a pretty awesome to see.

 

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And nobody is saying black people own marching bands. They’re saying that Swift is clearly riding a wave by a very popular performance from a year ago that was inherently rooted in blackness.

“But people have used marching band performances before”

One mega pop star copying performance aesthetics from another mega pop star’s performance from a year ago is the point. The extra layer of the specific kind of marching band performance that swift tried to copy is what is prompted the issue.
 

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I feel obligated to give people the full context, including the reason why the NYLON piece was written in the first place.

I don't think stifling discussion on cultural matters like this is going to do any good as long as people aren't being antagonistic. If they are, punish them individually.
You should edit your OP and only include the NYLON article. Your spun the entire topic and included content that was made to simply clown Taylor Swift for appearing in an act with a marching band soon after Beyonce and not to discuss cultural appropriate of marching bands.
 

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I hope this era of overreacting to absolutely everything will fade at some point. Like, you may think it’s lame that Taylor Swift did her own version of Beyoncé’s Coachella performance or whatever, but another person can view it as a homage to it. Not everything has to be considered from a very cynical, distrusting perspective. And it doesn’t make you look any cooler when you’re trying to be woke by making fun of a white person’s lack of coordination when they are doing a similar performance to a famous minorities performance in the middle of claiming cultural appropriation.

Like, shit has just gone too far. Everyday it seems like more people want only people who are of a specific culture to be able to enjoy or display or perform or wear things from that specific culture and it becomes a modern day version of segregation that I find wholly offensive.

T-Swizzle has nothing on Queen B though.
 

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Thread close due to the framing of the OP and lack of context, no meaningful discussion is being generated.
 
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