Skip to 3:30 for the God of War talk.
TLDW: Sony wanted someone who could do both the voice and the motion capture, instead of 2 different actors.
TC seems to imply Sony was shady with how that went down.
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TC Carson talks about why he wasn’t Kratos in God of War (2018)
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Skip to 3:30 for the God of War talk.
TLDW: Sony wanted someone who could do both the voice and the motion capture, instead of 2 different actors.
TC seems to imply Sony was shady with how that went down.
Doesn't sound shady so much was it was discourteous, but they should have called him as a show of respect. He carried the character for many years.
Pretty much. They likely didn't have him on some kind of permanent contract, so it was a dick move to not call him and say "hey we're going in a different direction", but it's not exactly shady either.
Yeah I feel the same.
It is a shame. His voice is awesome. They should have at least brought him back for young Kratos flashbacks as his new voice wouldn't fit with the old angry Kratos.
Googling said he was the body scan(Christopher Judge is in his 50's and isn't in Teal'c shape anymore), and did stunts.
Kyle Barker from Living Single being the voice of Kratos all these years was something I didn't know about until Ascension.
I feel like this was all known information years ago? TC didn't fit the direction and tone they were going for. Especially with regards to performance capture stuff. Christopher Judge did an amazing job breathing new life into Kratos
Corey talked about the process for picking new Cratos, it was both technical and artistic.
As for not notifying TC, oh well. That could have been handled better, but they were not obliged to do so.
IMO, there is still chance for TC to make some kind of comeback, in some flashback.
As for not notifying TC, oh well. That could have been handled better, but they were not obliged to do so.
IMO, there is still chance for TC to make some kind of comeback, in some flashback.
Yeah, would have been nice if SSM/Sony would have given him a call when they decided to recast. Not sure if he'd take it, but I think it would be great if they could give him a role in the future games, even if it's a small one.
With hindsight, Ascension feels like an impending break up game because Kratos barely had any lines comparatively to the other games.
Judge is not leagues better, they are both great to their respective Kratos.
The OG God of war 2 and ghost of Sparta are some of my favorite games of all time but the voice acting is just cringey, I shouldn't say judge is league's better than TC as an actor but the performances, yeah 2018 was leagues better than the OG series.
But TC gave the performance what the directors wanted and he did what the material dictated, I don't know what performance he would've put out with 2018 but judge killed it.
Yeah it was really strange how infrequently Kratos
spoke in Ascension.
Judge does an incredible job... but I also think it's unfair to just dismiss Carson as not "fitting" the new Kratos. Who knows what he could have done with the better characterization and writing of Norse Kratos vs Greek Kratos
Man voiced Kratos for six games, Sony could have at least reached out and said thanks. Even if it was just a phone call. Damn.
I agree TC played a awesome Katos that fit for the style of story telling they were going for at that time. Judge nailed the Kratos for 2018's GOW because Kratos is at a different time in his life.
TC did a great job with Kratos during those years, 2018 marks a new direction for the character and Judge did an outstanding job with the character, which fits the new adventures he's embarking on. I feel like TC should've been at least notified of the decision due to his years of work with the character, even if I feel like the era of that Kratos is over and we don't need to go back to it.
Yeah, this basically.
Yeah, it's crazy that you hear stories like "they recast me my role without telling me" in video games, while in movies you hear the exact opposite "Frank Sinatra was offered the role of John McClane in Die Hard because the movie studio was contractually obligated to offer it to him"
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It really should've been him. Or someone but not Christopher Judge.
Although the reasons are not for me to say.
Although the reasons are not for me to say.
How else would they know mocapping a small person to play a big person causes problems they want to fix by recasting if they didn't try it first? Ascension is a PS3 game at 720p as well vs a PS4 game at 1080p and beyond.
Looks better than ever here. I wonder when this was taken?
Looks like it's from here(his wife):
My guess is, it was prepping to do all God of War Ragnarok mocap including body scan and stunts since Shad Gaspard died and he didn't look like that back in 2016 or whenever the mocap for God of War 2018 was done.
Every photo I saw of Christopher Judge before this looked like your average person who is a little heavier since their metabolism slowed as they age.
Hey thanks for this I couldn't find more info to pinpoint the time and date between Mocap for God of War and this pic. Rest in peace to Shad too. Also happy new year to you.
It's hard to compare them though. Like what games back in the mid to late 2000s had good voice acting and writing, especially action games where that stuff wasn't the main focus?
It's not like TC Carson is a bad actor either, hell he could've potentially done a better job.
Nah... I wouldn't want to have people get in contact to me to tell that I won't been working with them again. It doesn't makes a lot of sense to me.
They definitely should have given him notice but it's clear why they went in a different direction.
The hell is this? So it's ok to just vaguely imply awful shit about people with no cause or evidence to back it up?
He voiced him 9 times that includes Soulcalibur, MK and Playstation all stars.
I suppose so. Far be it from me to define what is and isn't shady.