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Angie

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Crystal Dynamics has confirmed that Marvel's Avengers spokesman and lead designer Brian Waggoner is to be removed as spokesman of the game. This decision was made due to a series of older tweets written by Waggoner some years ago, many of which contain objectionable or offensive content.

The tweets in question range from 2010 to 2017 and have been collected by various Twitter users. They show Waggoner tweeting cheap jokes about the Special Olympics, commenting on Colin Kaepernick not standing for the national anthem, and generally tweeting some pretty unpleasant stuff.
Some examples.

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His apology to all the racist, sexist and other inappropriate "jokes" he made.


View: https://twitter.com/HeyItsBWags/status/1594847500061802496?t=AwVRyddRLeHyf9I87LyH3g&s=09

More at TechRaptor: https://techraptor.net/gaming/news/marvels-avengers-spokesman-removed-over-past-tweets
 

Star-Lord

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He's an adult and should have known better but at the same time it's been 5 years since his last remark so I do hope he has changed.
 

MarcelloF

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Again? Am I crazy or didn't they replace the developer narrating their war console videos already?
 

PlanetSmasher

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Jeez. Like some of those tweets are over a decade old, so theoretically he COULD have changed since then, but then I see the ones from 2017 and it's like...nah. Probably not.

Especially considering he pretty much implies in the tweets that he's a right-winger, I just can't see him growing completely out of having those views.
 

Squirrel09

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Jeez. Like some of those tweets are over a decade old, so theoretically he COULD have changed since then, but then I see the ones from 2017 and it's like...nah. Probably not.

Especially considering he pretty much implies in the tweets that he's a right-winger, I just can't see him growing completely out of having those views.
In 2017 I leaned right (albeit, growing more disenfranchised by the changing republican party), but now lean very left. I've grown and changed a lot in 5 years. I'm also an adult, since that matters. I don't know about him, but 5 years is a long time for people to change and grow. I hope by 2027 I've continued to change and grow.

My dad also has gone from a right-wing, fox news consuming, leader in the local republican chapter to a fairly middle of the road idea's man.

People can change.

Those are all pretty old tweets and when it comes to these things, I think it's good to see if they've noticeably changed since then.

So let's check:


View: https://twitter.com/HeyItsBWags/status/1325142552648019969


View: https://twitter.com/HeyItsBWags/status/1325141011799044097

Oh.

Oh my.


Oh, lol we do know about him though.
 

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Normally when horrible tweets from decades ago surface I tend to be more sympathetic to the person but dude's been an asshole since 2011 all the way to 2017...Doubt he's gonna change much...
 

PlanetSmasher

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In 2017 I leaned right (albeit, growing more disenfranchised by the changing republican party), but now lean very left. I've grown and changed a lot in 5 years. I'm also an adult, since that matters. I don't know about him, but 5 years is a long time for people to change and grow. I hope by 2027 I've continued to change and grow.

My dad also has gone from a right-wing, fox news consuming, leader in the local republican chapter to a fairly middle of the road idea's man.

People can change.

Glad to hear it. Genuinely happy for you!
 

ciddative

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In 2017 I leaned right (albeit, growing more disenfranchised by the changing republican party), but now lean very left. I've grown and changed a lot in 5 years. I'm also an adult, since that matters. I don't know about him, but 5 years is a long time for people to change and grow. I hope by 2027 I've continued to change and grow.

My dad also has gone from a right-wing, fox news consuming, leader in the local republican chapter to a fairly middle of the road idea's man.

People can change.



Oh, lol we do know about him though.

Good to hear. This is important, and I fully believe most people can change and be helped, not just be demonized and damned for all time
 

Launchpad

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Damn bro. You already gotta be sus when people tweet dumb shit almost a decade ago but he is tweeting dumb shit THIS WEEK.
 

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Good lord, he worked with me on Avengers and eventually became my lead before I left Crystal. I genuinely didn't know he spoke like this.
 

WinFonda

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it's genuinely disheartening knowing he doesn't believe a word of that apology, and is just going to dig his heels in deeper with more kool-aid and brain rot -- now with an even stronger persecution complex
 

BarcaTheGreat

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Read the article. It sounds like this Trump voter and open bigot (usually an overlap) is still working and just won't be face of the game anymore?
 

est1992

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Yikes lol

Almost every person I know that voted for Trump ended up harboring some sort of racist and prejudice behavior. Consciously or subconsciously.
Good lord, he worked with me on Avengers and eventually became my lead before I left Crystal. I genuinely didn't know he spoke like this.
It's always wild when you find out someone you know thinks like this. End up looking back and realizing the signs were there.

On a side note, what was the development like for Avengers before you left? Seems like content has pretty much gone by the way side.
 

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well at least we know a guy who hated "female thor" had to work on a game that put in mighty thor
 

Vincent4756

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What exactly does "dropped as spokesman" even mean? If he's still at the company and still lead designer, it means nothing.
Exactly. They apparently hired him even with knowing about these tweets and nothing was done about it.

Idk. I like the game and honestly defended it but with him still be lead dev I will not touch it. Game is already gone from my ps5.
 
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Angie

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What's wrong with the Female Thor tweet?
You tell me what is so wrong about a character created in the 70s

Also any comment that goes like "I'm not a bigot, but...." is always followed by a bigoted comment.

Same goes for everything else he saying.
"I'm not a racist but"
"I'm not a sexist but"