I'm a lot more okay with someone enacting violence against an oppressive element (ie, a priest who abused you and was protected) than I am the government enacting violence.
There's a difference between being anti-death penalty and being okay with a distraught teenager killing someone who did horrible things to him as a child.
It's called extenuating circumstances.
I find the compulsion to repeat this stance in a thread over a murdered pedophile who escaped justice and was free to prey on children distasteful.
Murdering an innocent is one thing, murdering a paedophile who not only raped you, but likely others as well is another thing.
It's not the same, or even close to being the same.
If that kid is going to prison, everyone involved in letting that pedo get away with that shit for so long should go to prison too.
...what?Then practice the closest thing we have to a rule of law on this forum and file a complaint. The report link as at the bottom left of every post.
...what?
You said you found most celebratory posts in this thread distasteful and that's why you've felt compelled to whine about the reactions of others. So why not practice that yourself if it's a solution you feel beneficial?
Our society(and law) simply fails if it can't recognise the difference between the two.
Not too tired to be a pedant and obtuse it seems.I am quite tired, it is 2am. Please show me where I have "felt compelled to whine about the reactions of others".
I may have forgotten it.
Like I said, I am not standing for paedophiles. I am saying I don't believe in murder.
Apparently that is a controversial viewpoint.
you are dumb.
>I'm expected a lighter, but not much, sentence. Mainly as we don't want to encourage others to take up arms,
You can disagree with it, but I doubt you would agree that there is no nuance whatsoever to this case.
Yea that's totally what I said.Because the system has issues we should just give up and allow murder?
Screw it, let's just bring in The Purge.
>I'm expected a lighter, but not much, sentence. Mainly as we don't want to encourage others to take up arms,
And it'll be unjust when that happens.And that extrajudicial "justice" will also have to be processed by the law.
I believe you read that wrong. Self defense is an example of something making it acceptable. I wasn't stating that this was self defense.
Solid argument you've got going there, pal. So sad you didn't agree with me on my controversial "murder is bad" standpoint,
Haha I know right? The hardened "anti death" boners here. With their haughty holier than thou attitude. It's enrichingThe same civilised society that routinely let's priests get away with sexually assaulting children.
Sure. Seems legit.
I believe you read that wrong. Self defense is an example of something making it acceptable. I wasn't stating that this was self defense.
The rest, however, directly related to this. Creating your own murderer through evil acts I think justifies it. He also severely damaged others ability to live life. Again, why should he be able to take and destroy without repercussion? No action was being taken. There was no other recourse. The world is now also a better place.
The boy needs therapy, probably for life. Not incarceration.
I find the compulsion to repeat this stance in a thread over a murdered pedophile who escaped justice and was free to prey on children distasteful.
Haha I know right? The hardened "anti death" boners here. With their haughty holier than thou attitude. It's enriching
Our society(and law) simply fails if it can't recognise the difference between the two.
Murder can be good. :)Solid argument you've got going there, pal. So sad you didn't agree with me on my controversial "murder is bad" standpoint,
I'd argue that prison in general in parts of the world doesn't purely act as a deterrence. Much more has to get involved. Luckily my country (Sweden) has a reputation for doing it a lot better than others.
As a Brit/Swede I think his sentencing should be long term psychotherapy and a period of incarceration. Sweden has a pretty good record with this,
The boy needs therapy, probably for life. Not incarceration. That would just be the system failing again, making this young man into a hardened criminal.
If the church swept it under the carpet and did't contact the police then yes.I would also seek out financial compensation by the church for the father and son.
I actually edited in something similar at the bottom while you were responding. Therapy, for sure, and nothing wrong with putting him in a facility for a period where he can't leave with that purpose. Actual prison though I think would just be the system failing again, creating an actual criminal.As a Brit/Swede I think his sentencing should be long term psychotherapy and a period of incarceration. Sweden has a pretty good record with this,
I actually edited in something similar at the bottom while you were responding. Therapy, for sure, and nothing wrong with putting him in a facility for a period where he can't leave with that purpose. Actual prison though I think would just be the system failing again, creating an actual criminal.
Your alternative doesn't apply in this situation and doesn't exist in this world at the moment. He had immunity, so it was either die a natural death like anybody else or this outcome.My alternative is rule of law and not vigilante murder. If priests are not getting convicted when they are guilty then fix that. Don't go around murdering people.