- Oct 25, 2017
Nah... I got reimbursed for my 3 years of writing for ATP during Tag2's era.... with a shirt Aris mailed me :P
Everything Wonkey did it was for free.
Everything Wonkey did it was for free.
Yeah, I had thought so.
Ah yes, the infallible and astute namco. Clever to a T. I mean who else would have their worldwide fanbase awake at 3 am on a 240p nico nico stream to watch a lucky chloe reveal.
I think the main problem on Xbox is finding matches online, because the scene is mostly on PS4 and PC. The game itself is good.
Outselling Streetfighter, selling double Tag2 and counting, etc, etc, etc.
And yet it sold less than Tekken 6 despite releasing on more platforms with a higher install base.
People can try to downplay Tag 2 all they want and call it "franchise killer" or whatever but it's a non-canon game that released at the end of the PS3/360 lifecycle (and later a dead in the water Nintendo console) and had strong competition with SCV and Virtua Fighter 5 FS releasing the same year and DoA5 releasing in the same month. Despite all that, it managed to sell around 2 million without having to absurdly disrupt the whole canon plot of Tekken with inclusion of a Street Fighter character or having to pathetically rely on fanbases of other franchises by adding mismatched, nonsensical guest characters, including from Final Fantasy and Walking Dead of all things, in a pitiful attempt to bring up sales numbers.
A downward slope is the trend for almost every traditional fighter out there. That it manages to be under 200k is more impressive than it is disappointing.
It had Snoop Dogg.People can try to downplay Tag 2 all they want and call it "franchise killer" or whatever but it's a non-canon game that released at the end of the PS3/360 lifecycle (and later a dead in the water Nintendo console) and had strong competition with SCV and Virtua Fighter 5 FS releasing the same year and DoA5 releasing in the same month. Despite all that, it managed to sell around 2 million without having to absurdly disrupt the whole canon plot of Tekken with inclusion of a Street Fighter character or having to pathetically rely on fanbases of other franchises by adding mismatched, nonsensical guest characters, including from Final Fantasy and Walking Dead of all things, in a pitiful attempt to bring up sales numbers.
A Snoop Dogg stage and theme song. Not Snoop Dogg as guest character. And it's not that I'm exactly against guest characters. I'll just say that a franchise like SoulCalibur is a lot more dignified in how it handles guest characters compared to what Tekken 7 has done.
Is it really that impressive? Look at that reddit link again:
I also don't buy the excuse that "traditional" fighting games are in a downward slope. Mortal Kombat is as traditional as it gets and ever since MK9 they doubled down on the traditional fighting aspects of the game to be tournament compatible and have had greater success than ever before. Namco can do better to have better sales than MK like they used to pre-2010.Also worth noting that in 2009:
PS3 Sales: 35.95 million Xbox Sales: 40.3 million
PS4 Sales: 73.82 million XB1 Sales: 36.20 million
Without even counting the extra pool of capable-PC Steam users, Tekken 7 had a 30+ million larger pool of users to get their sales from compared to Tekken 6.
Tekken 6 hit 3.5 million in 2011. We don't have any data of what happened after. How many sales did it get with the Greatest Hits release? How many sales did it get when its backward compatibility was announced for XB1? And how much extra copies were sold during sales throughout the 7 years since that date?
Solo TTT2 felt like a gimped version of T6. I only did it to bide time for T7, and my friends wouldn't play the older titles. I can honestly say that TTT2 was the first Tekken game that I didn't really care for too much.
An HD remaster would be cool, but they don't even have to, just port it to PS4, XBX and PC with online and I'm good.
I disagree. These are my favorites from Tekken 6:
Wow, no Mystical Forest? smhI disagree. These are my favorites from Tekken 6:
Dist Thins Out
Urban War Zone
I actually do enjoy that some moves for each character have the closeup camera with boom sound impact. I think it adds to the cinematic look Tekken 7 is going for and probably part of the reason why it's more spectator friendly.Yeah if T6 was released I'd probably drop T7 instantly. If it had some kind of remix mode that improved bcd and nerfed Bob then even better.
I like how "proper" hits feel in T6 and hitboxes are precise and tight. In T7 you can hit people across the stage because some hitboxes and hurtboxes seemed to be drawn with crayons.
To me T6 feels organic and meaty. T7 is like animated corpse in comparison. It works, it's just dead inside.
And why did they think that making every second hit a BOOOOOOM! sound effect actualy improves sound design? it did not. Boom every 5 seconds sounds dumb and forced.
I definitely miss the smaller stages, stronger okizemie, better wall pressure/greater purpose to conserving your bound for wall carries, and intense mind games from T6.
I like mystical forest a lot too. It's just too serene to get me pumped up for a fighting match.
Tekken 4 was just way ahead of its time. If it released in an age where patches were common and had a DR/BR/FR equivalent followup release, I think it could have been better balanced/more successful. It had hands down the best artstyle/atmosphere/story out of any Tekken game released so far.
I love T5 and T6, but I'm very happy they toned down those elements a bit. The ground game was very daunting.I definitely miss the smaller stages, stronger okizemie, better wall pressure/greater purpose to conserving your bound for wall carries, and intense mind games from T6.
But because people complained about constantly being wall splatted/picked up because they don't know how to get up properly, Tekken 7 completely toned down all of these elements. It's why it feels less intense to me.
I'm not. Screw attacks suck. They both look and feel less graceful than a bound. The opponent is too far away and it's not uncommon for combo enders to whiff.
I think DJ's is completely fine the way it works now. First hit launches, second hit breaks the floor. I don't see why the move would have to be reworked in any way.Screwss are ok, problem is they are "modded" into T6/Tag2 system. When T6 came the whole system was build around bounds, moves were created for sole purpose to bound.
In T7 most of those moves were left without their intended function so eg we have Devil Jins df+1+2, his main bound move, now just does nothing and nobody uses it because it lost it's purpose.
Instead of rework these moves or make new ones in their place they're just left as they were just without their function.
Another DJ example: OldJin/DJ CD 4,4 was a hellsweep into spinning roundhouse in T3 until T6 where the second kick was remade into downward hook kick just to make it a smart bound move.
By logical thinking T7 should revert the second kick back into roundhouse so the animation would fit a screw. But no in T7 DJ still tries to do the nonexistent bound. It sticks out like a sore thumb.
Yeah, they did make new screw moves but those are few and far between. I think maybe next Tekken's every aspect will be fully build around screws and other T7/T8 system features instead of being old dog forced to do new tricks.
You say it breaks the floor like it matters in this game because 1 on 20 stages has floor break. It should be reworked because it was solely made for T6 bound system. They leave these kind of moves because why bother to do anything useful with them. Copy pasta is the key.
Stay with Lee. My muscle dystrophy barely let's me push buttons and I still got to genbu with Kazuya. Of course it took 1500 fights and countless promo and demotions but still persistence breaks resistance :].Was mostly grinding quick player matches and fights with friends, but went to ranked a few days ago and finally made it to Vanquisher with my no execution Lee (can't do the loops consistently or many one frame moves lol). Considering I can't train much this aspect due to my hand condition, I wonder if I should persevere to the red ranks or switch to a less execution heavy character (I also play Miguel).
I love Lee though... :(
Thanks, I'll keep that in mind ^^. You had other characters on the side or you sticked with Kaz ?
Yeah I play all Mishimas, Jin, Steve and my main Paul. Paul was the easiest to rank up but I stalled everyone until I got genbu with Kaz as a point of honor, haha.
What is your level? Cause I've been a complete newb legend since Tekken 1 through every release. But maybe we could get in some games in a lobby anyway.