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Tekken |OT| Dark Resurrection
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I think the damage of the L3 reppuken was scaled down because it was at the end of a combo, like when trying to do a RA in a juggle. Yes, an RA would do more damage in a similar setup, but that's because we only get one of those, and only when near death.
I noticed that the double reppuken near the start of the first round of the second fight may have some high crush properties, which would be a unique ability compared to the other fireballers in the game if true. Too bad the player wasn't any good to see how Max mode works in this game.
Overall, Geese looks more interesting than the other two 2D-esque characters so far.
Anytime he wants like it's nothing but his BIG move supposed to be this weak wrestling throw? Pffft. :P
I actually love the system in Tekken 7 that you can play someone who's incredibly better than you, as it allows me to not just learn how to fight characters, but fight people who actually know how to properly play those characters and not just rely on gimmicks. If there was one thing they could add for Ranked/Casual is the option of a "opponent preference". Basically, you specify which character in particular you'd like to be matched up against. Then the matchmaking system narrows down the pool to people who you have good connections with but gives priority to the players (if any) that have chosen the character you want to face.
It would be a fantastic way to learn how to deal with characters without having it affect matchmaking.
And regarding your podcast Dereck, I felt kinda similarly in SFV for a little while too. Got really obsessed with ranked then I realized that most of the people I win against often only lose because they're unfamiliar with the matchup. So I started playing Casual and Battle Lounge more and even started playing Ranked with characters that I did not feel at all comfortable with, like Nash just cause I wanted to learn more than rank up.
It would be a fantastic way to learn how to deal with characters without having it affect matchmaking.
And regarding your podcast Dereck, I felt kinda similarly in SFV for a little while too. Got really obsessed with ranked then I realized that most of the people I win against often only lose because they're unfamiliar with the matchup. So I started playing Casual and Battle Lounge more and even started playing Ranked with characters that I did not feel at all comfortable with, like Nash just cause I wanted to learn more than rank up.
No release date for Geese yet?
For casual, sure, for ranked? lol no, people will abuse it and face all the characters which are good matchups for your character
For casual, sure, for ranked? lol no, people will abuse it and face all the characters which are good matchups for your character
Really looking forward to the tonight tournament, it'd be sik if the EU could do something, but I'm not hopeful. Plus a character reveal after it finishes is a given right? I wonder if it'll be a legacy character or guest character.
Well. Better prepare for an allnighter tbh.
Group selection is at 21.30 our time, then at 22h it starts in earnest. At 2 they'll have an hour break to show DBFZ, then top 8 starts at 3am.
psshh, amateurs. The group select is at 1:30 AM Monday for me!
I guess you're right, people would abuse that in ranked. Tbh, I keep forgetting that not everyone has my mentality of using ranked to fight as many good players as possible to learn the matchup lol.
We know that we're getting DLC news at the TWT finals so it makes sense for the release date to be announced there.
I guess you're right, people would abuse that in ranked. Tbh, I keep forgetting that not everyone has my mentality of using ranked to fight as many good players as possible to learn the matchup lol.
What? Fuck that. Last time I stayed up all night by sheer willpower until 10 the next day. Sleep routine completely destroyed, strange psychosis-depression crawled in later. I pulled myself together just before May.
No way I'm going through that again.
Organizers don't give a single shit about people in different time zones.
Yeah, I thought I could just stay up late and catch most of it, but apparently it starts at about 10pm over here and goes all the way to 7am. Atleast they make watching the archive on Twitch easy.
Shamelessly rooting for K&T from the UK here.
For reasons.
Oh. Uh. And go America too! And stuff.
For reasons.
Oh. Uh. And go America too! And stuff.
I already wrote about this a lot on the old forum but...
They removed his 7 moves from tag2 and ruined another 3. 10 moves in the trash.
His df+1 mixup extensions and frame trap is gone. df+1,4 was a fairy low dmg 15 frame launcher that was logical for online play where electric block punish was near impossible. Extensions of df1 were: 4 (high, launcher, disadvantage on block)), 2 (high +1 on block), f+2 (mid knockdown, punishable.) Mixing them up was the key. Now his extensions are 2 (mid punishable), f+2(mid, punishable), 4 (high, no launch, only frame advantage on hit, disadvantage on block). Any mixup is gone and opponent only needs to block high because Kaz will be either punishable or at disadvantage. Mindless.
Uf+4,4 staggers on block. It was always launch punishable but in Tag2 you could do further spins. The point was if you guessed right that opponent would block uf+4,4 and you did uf+4,4,4 impatient opponent would get hit by third hit. It was a tool that only saved kaz just a little bit because it wasn't hit confirm and all the kicks were launch punishable. You had to make opponent hesitate for a second and think whenever it's gonna be 2 or 3 kicks. Now it's gone and uf+4,4 means death for Kaz, always.
b+3,1,4,1 now is blockable even if 4 hits and Kaz is at -14. 4 parryable like always. Before string hit full if first 1 was ch. Nope, doesn't work. You can only do low extension b+3,1,4,3 for almost no damage.
F+1+2 lost it's hit confirm extension f+2 that he had since Tekken 4! They reverted the move to Tag1 debut. Moronic.
Extension was -13 but could save kaz from launch. Now it's -16 and always launch punishable.
b+4,1 was a very solid 15 frame punish where df+1,4 didn't reach. Gone.
Double backfist is gone. bb+2,2 in T6 was badass because on ch gave a solid combo. In Tag2 (u+2,2) no more, only 2 guaranteed hits on ch, but it was delayable. Removed.
Kaz had 2,2 high mid -10 and 2,4 high, high (safe). 2,4 is gone.
1+2 gave far fallback slow knockdown for oki options. Not anymore.
Thunder god fist extensions gone Tgf still launch punishable you can't even attempt to try to save him a little with tgf 3 or tgf 4. Opponent knows no kicks will come out so launch punish every time.
Mishimastar who's responsible for gameplay system could be blamed and likely he took much of his attention towards Mishimas since he always mained them. When you see his Tekken 6 matches he played Kazuya basically using only electrics, hellsweep, df+2 and f+4. In T7 we have buffed Electrics, buffed df+2 and removed any other tool that he didn't use with no care that it kills Kazs versatility, options and tools other players could have used. So it's probably on him and anyone else who added to the issue. ("Nerf Kaz!" /angryface)
I say it again Kaz is barebones and primitive in T7. He can deal damage off of electrics or df+2 and his f,f+4 use useful but it was necessary in T7 system where oki refloats are gone, his rage drive hits big but the command is stupidly difficult for someone who can only play with his thumb on a pad....and that's it. They fucked over Kaz hard and didn't even call him back after.
I still prefer playing Kazuya over other Mishimas but only because it's Kazuya. I dig the character since the beginning of Tekken. Devil Jin and Heihachi in T7 eat him alive because they actually have options to surprise opponents and make them think twice. Only advantage Kaz has and had for last 18 years is this:
Btw since this intro I've been waiting for the ability to rip Jack apart with df+2 like this if df+2 was the last move that finishes him. Wouldn't that be awesome?
As someone who doesn't (can't) wave dash (which means you can visually see my character move as I do the hell sweep input, too) or EWFG, this explains why I've dropped Kaz altogether. I also had an affinity for him since Tekken 1.
I used to think I could circumvent my inability to EWFG from standstill like I see all the other Mishima players do by using his other tools.
But the joke is on me: WHAT DO YOU MEAN, "OTHER TOOLS???"
When I want to "get better" at the game, I'm in practice mode or playing unranked.
When I'm playing ranked, gaining ranked is all that matters.
It frustrates me that the only way to punish Alisa's hopkick with Asuka is with WS+2. I wish she had something like Ling's WS+4. Asuka's WS+3 is too slow.
ws2,1 is about average damage for a 13f ws punish, it's fine. Also leaves her at +9, which is quite good.
Depends on your attitude. Ranked is the best place to play people who do everything in order to win, which means that it's the best place to get used to all kinds of gimmicks and setups.
And yeah Europe isn't the best place for these kinds of events :p
I guess...I probably think of it as weak because the rest of my roster arguably has the best WS arsenals in the game (Kaz, Ling, Raven). Comparably, Asuka's does not have that OOMPH.
I mean, yeah. You play to win the game. That's one of the reasons you don't get long "deathmatches" in ranked. Ain't nobody trying to get "downloaded," so you get your win and dip. OR, why get beat by a character you don't know and take another loss trying to learn. Nah, you do that in unranked.
Like, how many times can I do b+2, 2 with Ling to finish a round before my opponent catches on and ducks? And if I play against someone who ducks it the first time, or worse, low parries or "dickpunches" (because at least if they duck I can just b+2 and launch them with 4), then no, I'm not interested in trying to beat someone who *knows* all the tricks.
I'm trying to acquire rank. It might not mean anything to you, but ranked exists as "internet bragging rights." Not everyone can be like Derek and go play, let alone win, at local tournaments. So online rank is all a lot of us have to go by.
This is the first time I've seen anyone here talk about playing Raven. Where you been?
Been lurking mostly, I mained Raven since his inclusion in T5 so naturally moved over to Master Raven for T7. made it all the way to Savior with her but currently demoted down to Vanquisher
So you're rooting for Asia
On a serious note though hopefully this gets started soon.
Huh, interesting format. I really hope they don't botch the final, since the whole tour was pretty well done.
Are you on PC? I'd like to see what kind of trickery a high level Raven does.
All Ravens I've encountered are bad.
Speaking of being bad, over the past 12 hours I've beaten literally everyone I encountered (well except that one Josie who kept backdash canceling and would never attack). Back up to Jugg.
I'd keep going but the wife will be home soon >_>
Not all that enthusiastic about Noctis... would have preferred a hand to hand combat character from FF like Zell or Tifa. But I have to respect the hustle.
I liked Noctis announcement
But I'm more hyped about the new NJPW content! I hope it does come to consoles in the West
GO ACE!
But I'm more hyped about the new NJPW content! I hope it does come to consoles in the West
GO ACE!
Good for Qudans. Always great to see an old vet come outta retirement and show them youngin's how things are done. Plus that Mishima battle vs JDCR brought back about every nostalgia feels you can imagine, going back to TTT1 days. Well done all around.
Oh and, fuck NoctASS. That is all.
Cross posting from the TWT finals thread since Im a qudans fanboy :P
In honor of Qudans, I'm gonna post some of my favorite matches of him
The Qudans Clutch Gene at its finest. This was the match I saw 10 years ago and got me inspired to try learning how to play Tekken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzgX8dOffN8&
Already posted earlier but the first time Qudan's devil jin played against young JDCR's heihachi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCkOsHZ087o
One of the matches in the First to 50 Wins he had against Mainstreet Ryu, Japan's #1 tekken player at the time. He got Mainstreet so shook at one point that HE LANDED THE DEVIL JIN LASER AGAINST HIM!
And another match from the First to 50 wins against Mainstreet Ryu. He beats japan's number 1 player in under a minute!
In honor of Qudans, I'm gonna post some of my favorite matches of him
The Qudans Clutch Gene at its finest. This was the match I saw 10 years ago and got me inspired to try learning how to play Tekken
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzgX8dOffN8&
Already posted earlier but the first time Qudan's devil jin played against young JDCR's heihachi
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCkOsHZ087o
One of the matches in the First to 50 Wins he had against Mainstreet Ryu, Japan's #1 tekken player at the time. He got Mainstreet so shook at one point that HE LANDED THE DEVIL JIN LASER AGAINST HIM!
And another match from the First to 50 wins against Mainstreet Ryu. He beats japan's number 1 player in under a minute!
People fought like their lifes depended on it, even the group round robins were a freaking joy.
watching the vodcast on twitch now, just about died here https://clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulTransparentPoxDancingBanana