Nothing supports the belief that Biden is a weaker candidate than Clinton in the states that will matter. Biden has and will do great in the states we lacked in last time.
Thank you.
Shit no. Accelerationism doesn't work.
You wanna talk long-term and abortion? OK, let's do that, because it's a perfect example.
For real. The "so you'd vote for a rapist" gotcha really fails when the other choice is also a rapist.
You don't have to be entitled to vote in order for me to point out how dumb it is to abstain from voting so you can feel morally righteous.
God I just have so much respect for you and the way you worded this.
No NOW is the time to act. While there is still time. DNC needs to denounce Biden immediately. He is no longer eligible. They need to bring someone else to the table. Otherwise THEY are the ones handing Trump 4 more years and so is anyone who supports them.
Oh, so it doesn't matter what comes out tomorrow, huh?
you overestimate the "DNC's" power.
Do you know for sure that Biden is the best candidate for the job? Do you know that that's still true now that we can count on sustained coverage of the allegations against him? How do you calculate the cost of losing the "our guy is definitely the pro-woman candidate" vote today?
What? I'm not advocating for accelerationism. I don't think allowing Trump to be the president for longer is a good thing, I said it's worth accepting the risk that he wins reelection (a risk, by the way, which is quite large anyway if Biden is the nominee because Biden sucks) if it means forcing the Democratic party to be something other than the feckless compromise centrist party that it's been for decades now.
I don't care what happened in 92'. The entire democratic establishment should be denouncing Biden right now. They are supposed to be the party that cares about these kinds of things. They need to collectively stand up and say "Republican's may be okay with having a rapist represent their party but WE ARE NOT!" Democrats have been saying for years that these types of thing would never fly in their party. It is the other side that doesn't care about what is right. Now that they (and you) have a chance to actually prove that to be the case you are cowering behind a bunch of "lesser of 2 evils" bullshit. It is not too late but if you allow it to get to the point that it is then your country is fucked.
No it doesn't. Believe women means that you listen to their accounts and not just dismiss them, it doesn't mean automatically accuse and condemn. We literally watched a scenario with Depp play out here where posters screamed at others for not being so quick to call him out because they weren't "believing women" as you put it. The difference being is that they DID listen to what the accuser was saying, but they waited to see how things played out to place further judgment. And it turns out they were correct in that they should wait for more details.
politicians actually trying to better american lives instead of enriching themselves. Obama wasn't perfect, but i'd take that over 4 more years of trump.
this.
this is total horseshit, both sides bullshit.
that's what you don't get.
Of course not, but the knowledge of what would happen is out there and voters will have to decide what they're willing to do.
I agree, which is why in my mind, House, senate and local elections to me are far more important than presidential elections until the time when a progressive can win, and actually have the senate and house to pass said Agenda.
My post is about the right thing to do, not the boomer-approved thing to do. Also, I can't tell if people don't know what it means to be accelerationist or if everyone here is just high on political science because a call for holding a political party accountable is not accelerationism.
I don't care at all about forum politics. Even if I did, the issue here is much larger than a single anecdote. Believing women means taking the default position that an allegation is true and then working from there based on the circumstances. It is based on the statistical reality that most rape accusations are true and that there are a whole host of wrong beliefs about women, sometimes called rape myths, that cause people to categorically incorrectly assess the likelihood that a rape allegation is true.
I think that in the eighties and nineties the Democrats, like most political parties in their situation around the world, made a pivot to the right to compensate for the left's failure to adequately respond to neoliberal rhetoric. It's high time they pivoted back.
Or you know fucking over brown people kowtowing to racist but whateves
Lol so we're voting for Biden then? No other choices at all?
Is it though
