My vote, doesn't mean shit in a system that is perpetuated by people that actually have and use personal connections, money, and authority to give us the choice between two rapists and insist we choose the better one. We're not going to vote our way into a more just world.
I understand that, but to suggest that such a decision is only about one's personal feelings or conscience is also wrong. There are millions of sexual abuse/assault victims in the US, not to mention the millions around the globe. Watching another abuser be elected president, with society having knowledge about the abuse and giving them that power anyway, has huge ramifications for those millions of victims. That is also a form of suffering, and we are suffering every day under the current rapist president and would continue to suffer under another one. To suggest this is just about any individual person's feelings is wrong.
It's a classic example of the Trolley Problem, except the number of people on the lower track is multiplied by a few million.
Have you seen the primary results? Bernie is nonviable in like a dozen stages.
Your point would be stronger if the alternative wasn't also a rapist
Touché
There was one good thing on the menu and I ordered it. But the restaurant said, "Sorry, not enough people ordered that to justify us making it today. I guess everyone's appetite for shit is just too strong."
Or they just don't want to vote for a racist rapists Democrat. The irony of it
This is an absolutely disgusting, repugnant accusation to hurl at people--many of who have themselves been a victim of rape and sexual violence--who can't bring themselves to cast their votes for a rapist. Utterly sickening and Trump-like. You and everyone in this thread applauding this vile sentiment should be ashamed of themselves.
Concur strongly.
I think the majority of members of this forum is too young and/or idealistic to make a pragmatic decision.
Right I'm well aware of that fact, I said as much in my post. Honestly, as someone who was sexually abused as a child, I'm working through my feelings on this new information right now. That's why I'm having this dialogue with you, because I respect your viewpoint and I know you understand this kind of trauma. The idea of two abusers running against each other to be the leader of this country is so goddamn demoralizing and dire to me I can hardly put it into words. I worry what that does to the millions of victims in this country, I worry it sends the message that no one cares what happened to you. Do you understand where I'm coming from?
The difference is, there is a real person on one and a theoretical million people on the other far down where you can't even see for sure there would be damage. Those theoretical millions could potentially be on the track of the rape victim as well depending on what it means to vote in a rapist. It could set back the me too movement and cause a lot of harm. Then there's climate change happening where regardless of who's president of the USA is going to destroy the world.It's a classic example of the Trolley Problem, except the number of people on the lower track is multiplied by a few million.
