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Tencent has acquired a 5% minority stake in Game Science (Black Myth: Wu Kong)
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the % of ownership is also dependent of how much the owners of game science are willing to sell.
tencent the buy/investor don't have the absolute say regarding everything on a transaction.
[zhihu] Translated Q&A between Game Science's CEO and Tencent
Translation of the "talk" between Yocar and Penguin(Tencent)
After leaving Tencent for many years, and receiving their money, not worrying about KPI, completing the dream of a single player console game
I feel this is a inspiriting story
Compare what what other people imagine, we didn't partway(tencent) on bad term, and have been in contact normally.
After the trailer release of Black Myth, people I'm familiar with from Tencent came to visit the team.
It was expected, but wait and see.
Me: We've known each other for 10+ year, just be straight, what do you want?
Penguin: Don't worry, I just want to help you make the game a reality, if you feel you need any help, you can ask.
Me: This is quite odd, why didn't you offer earlier?
Pen: You never told me, you're working on something like this
Me: So you guys are here to invest?
Pen: Yes
Me: I'm sure, you guys are aware, even if the game is release, it won't really profitiable, and might cost more to make then it make?
Pen: We know, it's not like we don't know you, you aren't interested in making money, we're just more interested in a long term relationship.
Me: Long term? you guys?
Pen: We actually do want to do some positive thing for the game industry
Me: So what did you do?
Pen: Look, not just mobile and online game, we're also going into console and single player game, although their market in China is low, we hope through investment in Platinium, to make gamer and developer, we also started looking at small-mid dev team, like..
Me: Stop, I don't need your advertisement, the support for the medium/small dev is what I"m worried about.
Pen: What's there to worry? Let's go through it one by one
Me: After investment, will you interfere in our product or company daily running?
Pen: No, there are other company that we invest that we don't interefer.
Me: Then after making it, will you steal it? Like, saying we invest, or take away publishing right?
Pen: Not possible, with the amount we're investment, primary is still you guys
Me: So even if you want, you can't?
Pen: Yes.
Me: Beside money, what else can you help, it's not like we need funding?
Pen: Easy, our internal development alot are using Unreal engine, and Epic China have giving us alot of technical support, if you need help or question, you can ask.
Me.So..if I don't accept the investment, can I still get their(Tencent internal team and Epic China) support?
Pen: Yes, we're all friends here.
Me: Stop pretending to be so nice, what do you guys really want?
Pen: We just want you to help make Black Myth Wukong a reality, and respect your view, this industry need this product.
Me: Really? that's it?
Pen: Next trailer, can you include our logo?
Me: NO.
Pen: Wec an talk about that later..
Me: How do we make sure you don't change your word?
Pen: We can sign a contract
From his page
After leaving Tencent for many years, and receiving their money, not worrying about KPI, completing the dream of a single player console game
I feel this is a inspiriting story
Compare what what other people imagine, we didn't partway(tencent) on bad term, and have been in contact normally.
After the trailer release of Black Myth, people I'm familiar with from Tencent came to visit the team.
It was expected, but wait and see.
Me: We've known each other for 10+ year, just be straight, what do you want?
Penguin: Don't worry, I just want to help you make the game a reality, if you feel you need any help, you can ask.
Me: This is quite odd, why didn't you offer earlier?
Pen: You never told me, you're working on something like this
Me: So you guys are here to invest?
Pen: Yes
Me: I'm sure, you guys are aware, even if the game is release, it won't really profitiable, and might cost more to make then it make?
Pen: We know, it's not like we don't know you, you aren't interested in making money, we're just more interested in a long term relationship.
Me: Long term? you guys?
Pen: We actually do want to do some positive thing for the game industry
Me: So what did you do?
Pen: Look, not just mobile and online game, we're also going into console and single player game, although their market in China is low, we hope through investment in Platinium, to make gamer and developer, we also started looking at small-mid dev team, like..
Me: Stop, I don't need your advertisement, the support for the medium/small dev is what I"m worried about.
Pen: What's there to worry? Let's go through it one by one
Me: After investment, will you interfere in our product or company daily running?
Pen: No, there are other company that we invest that we don't interefer.
Me: Then after making it, will you steal it? Like, saying we invest, or take away publishing right?
Pen: Not possible, with the amount we're investment, primary is still you guys
Me: So even if you want, you can't?
Pen: Yes.
Me: Beside money, what else can you help, it's not like we need funding?
Pen: Easy, our internal development alot are using Unreal engine, and Epic China have giving us alot of technical support, if you need help or question, you can ask.
Me.So..if I don't accept the investment, can I still get their(Tencent internal team and Epic China) support?
Pen: Yes, we're all friends here.
Me: Stop pretending to be so nice, what do you guys really want?
Pen: We just want you to help make Black Myth Wukong a reality, and respect your view, this industry need this product.
Me: Really? that's it?
Pen: Next trailer, can you include our logo?
Me: NO.
Pen: Wec an talk about that later..
Me: How do we make sure you don't change your word?
Pen: We can sign a contract
From his page
Dude said that he didn't want to be framed as the savior of the industry or anything but being told that kind of statement straight to the face by the same company he left because he wasn't allowed create it before, has to be the biggest ego boost ever.
OP
OP
Thanks for the translation. Really appreciated.
What's the catch?
To increase their presence in the console space?
What's the catch?
To increase their presence in the console space?
LmaoTranslation of the "talk" between Yocar and Penguin(Tencent)
After leaving Tencent for many years, and receiving their money, not worrying about KPI, completing the dream of a single player console game
I feel this is a inspiriting story
Compare what what other people imagine, we didn't partway(tencent) on bad term, and have been in contact normally.
After the trailer release of Black Myth, people I'm familiar with from Tencent came to visit the team.
It was expected, but wait and see.
Me: We've known each other for 10+ year, just be straight, what do you want?
Penguin: Don't worry, I just want to help you make the game a reality, if you feel you need any help, you can ask.
Me: This is quite odd, why didn't you offer earlier?
Pen: You never told me, you're working on something like this
Me: So you guys are here to invest?
Pen: Yes
Me: I'm sure, you guys are aware, even if the game is release, it won't really profitiable, and might cost more to make then it make?
Pen: We know, it's not like we don't know you, you aren't interested in making money, we're just more interested in a long term relationship.
Me: Long term? you guys?
Pen: We actually do want to do some positive thing for the game industry
Me: So what did you do?
Pen: Look, not just mobile and online game, we're also going into console and single player game, although their market in China is low, we hope through investment in Platinium, to make gamer and developer, we also started looking at small-mid dev team, like..
Me: Stop, I don't need your advertisement, the support for the medium/small dev is what I"m worried about.
Pen: What's there to worry? Let's go through it one by one
Me: After investment, will you interfere in our product or company daily running?
Pen: No, there are other company that we invest that we don't interefer.
Me: Then after making it, will you steal it? Like, saying we invest, or take away publishing right?
Pen: Not possible, with the amount we're investment, primary is still you guys
Me: So even if you want, you can't?
Pen: Yes.
Me: Beside money, what else can you help, it's not like we need funding?
Pen: Easy, our internal development alot are using Unreal engine, and Epic China have giving us alot of technical support, if you need help or question, you can ask.
Me.So..if I don't accept the investment, can I still get their(Tencent internal team and Epic China) support?
Pen: Yes, we're all friends here.
Me: Stop pretending to be so nice, what do you guys really want?
Pen: We just want you to help make Black Myth Wukong a reality, and respect your view, this industry need this product.
Me: Really? that's it?
Pen: Next trailer, can you include our logo?
Me: NO.
Pen: Wec an talk about that later..
Me: How do we make sure you don't change your word?
Pen: We can sign a contract
From his page
The capital NO is what kills me.
I like to imagine he shouted while hitting the table
Their response is pretty clear though, they're not gonna give up, lol. I'll be on the lookout for their logo now. :p
Straight to the point. I like him.Translation of the "talk" between Yocar and Penguin(Tencent)
After leaving Tencent for many years, and receiving their money, not worrying about KPI, completing the dream of a single player console game
I feel this is a inspiriting story
Compare what what other people imagine, we didn't partway(tencent) on bad term, and have been in contact normally.
After the trailer release of Black Myth, people I'm familiar with from Tencent came to visit the team.
It was expected, but wait and see.
Me: We've known each other for 10+ year, just be straight, what do you want?
Penguin: Don't worry, I just want to help you make the game a reality, if you feel you need any help, you can ask.
Me: This is quite odd, why didn't you offer earlier?
Pen: You never told me, you're working on something like this
Me: So you guys are here to invest?
Pen: Yes
Me: I'm sure, you guys are aware, even if the game is release, it won't really profitiable, and might cost more to make then it make?
Pen: We know, it's not like we don't know you, you aren't interested in making money, we're just more interested in a long term relationship.
Me: Long term? you guys?
Pen: We actually do want to do some positive thing for the game industry
Me: So what did you do?
Pen: Look, not just mobile and online game, we're also going into console and single player game, although their market in China is low, we hope through investment in Platinium, to make gamer and developer, we also started looking at small-mid dev team, like..
Me: Stop, I don't need your advertisement, the support for the medium/small dev is what I"m worried about.
Pen: What's there to worry? Let's go through it one by one
Me: After investment, will you interfere in our product or company daily running?
Pen: No, there are other company that we invest that we don't interefer.
Me: Then after making it, will you steal it? Like, saying we invest, or take away publishing right?
Pen: Not possible, with the amount we're investment, primary is still you guys
Me: So even if you want, you can't?
Pen: Yes.
Me: Beside money, what else can you help, it's not like we need funding?
Pen: Easy, our internal development alot are using Unreal engine, and Epic China have giving us alot of technical support, if you need help or question, you can ask.
Me.So..if I don't accept the investment, can I still get their(Tencent internal team and Epic China) support?
Pen: Yes, we're all friends here.
Me: Stop pretending to be so nice, what do you guys really want?
Pen: We just want you to help make Black Myth Wukong a reality, and respect your view, this industry need this product.
Me: Really? that's it?
Pen: Next trailer, can you include our logo?
Me: NO.
Pen: Wec an talk about that later..
Me: How do we make sure you don't change your word?
Pen: We can sign a contract
From his page
Must feel incredible to leave a company and then have them chase after you with bags of money lol
thanks for sharing, dialoge sounds harsh man.Translation of the "talk" between Yocar and Penguin(Tencent)
After leaving Tencent for many years, and receiving their money, not worrying about KPI, completing the dream of a single player console game
I feel this is a inspiriting story
Compare what what other people imagine, we didn't partway(tencent) on bad term, and have been in contact normally.
After the trailer release of Black Myth, people I'm familiar with from Tencent came to visit the team.
It was expected, but wait and see.
Me: We've known each other for 10+ year, just be straight, what do you want?
Penguin: Don't worry, I just want to help you make the game a reality, if you feel you need any help, you can ask.
Me: This is quite odd, why didn't you offer earlier?
Pen: You never told me, you're working on something like this
Me: So you guys are here to invest?
Pen: Yes
Me: I'm sure, you guys are aware, even if the game is release, it won't really profitiable, and might cost more to make then it make?
Pen: We know, it's not like we don't know you, you aren't interested in making money, we're just more interested in a long term relationship.
Me: Long term? you guys?
Pen: We actually do want to do some positive thing for the game industry
Me: So what did you do?
Pen: Look, not just mobile and online game, we're also going into console and single player game, although their market in China is low, we hope through investment in Platinium, to make gamer and developer, we also started looking at small-mid dev team, like..
Me: Stop, I don't need your advertisement, the support for the medium/small dev is what I"m worried about.
Pen: What's there to worry? Let's go through it one by one
Me: After investment, will you interfere in our product or company daily running?
Pen: No, there are other company that we invest that we don't interefer.
Me: Then after making it, will you steal it? Like, saying we invest, or take away publishing right?
Pen: Not possible, with the amount we're investment, primary is still you guys
Me: So even if you want, you can't?
Pen: Yes.
Me: Beside money, what else can you help, it's not like we need funding?
Pen: Easy, our internal development alot are using Unreal engine, and Epic China have giving us alot of technical support, if you need help or question, you can ask.
Me.So..if I don't accept the investment, can I still get their(Tencent internal team and Epic China) support?
Pen: Yes, we're all friends here.
Me: Stop pretending to be so nice, what do you guys really want?
Pen: We just want you to help make Black Myth Wukong a reality, and respect your view, this industry need this product.
Me: Really? that's it?
Pen: Next trailer, can you include our logo?
Me: NO.
Pen: Wec an talk about that later..
Me: How do we make sure you don't change your word?
Pen: We can sign a contract
From his page