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Kyuuji

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Anyone suggesting Rowling isn't doing any harm has been a dumbass for awhile.
 

Platy

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Always good to remember





this is an old one, but yeah, happened twice

I link this article more since it is a more direct consequence of her actions for people to understand

www.pinknews.co.uk

JK Rowling's 'transphobic attacks' are damaging LGBT+ rights in UK, warns report

JK Rowling and transphobic hate speech are reasons why the UK is sliding down the ILGA-Europe equality index, a new report says.
 
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Anyone suggesting Rowling isn't doing any harm has been a dumbass for awhile.

Very true. Words do have consequences.

I link this article more since it is a more direct consequence of her actions for people to understand

www.pinknews.co.uk

JK Rowling's 'transphobic attacks' are damaging LGBT+ rights in UK, warns report

JK Rowling and transphobic hate speech are reasons why the UK is sliding down the ILGA-Europe equality index, a new report says.

Thanks for sharing! Gonna give it a read. 👍
 

Conal

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Oct 26, 2017
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I'm sorry but 'why are lesbians supporting a woman's bill? Well - back to my research' is so funny to me.

tenor.gif
 

eisschollee

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Oct 25, 2018
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*BUMP*

And she is back:

www.sueddeutsche.de

J.K. Rowlings erfolgreiches neues Kinderbuch

J.K. Rowling wollten viele in der Verbannung sehen. Kam anders: Sie hat ein Kinderbuch geschrieben. Und das ist jetzt schon ein Bestseller.

" A year ago, J.K. Rowling had a veritable shitstorm at her heels, including calls for boycot / canceling. Now she is back, with a new bestseller."
Acticle is behind a paywal..

BUT, so far the media in Germany did not portrait her as the offender, rather as the victim.
I mean they discussed what the discussion was about, but I did not have the impression that the media held her responsible for what she did.

And this headline does not either.
But why does the media not hold her accountable for what she did/does?
 
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astro

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*BUMP*

And she is back:

www.sueddeutsche.de

J.K. Rowlings erfolgreiches neues Kinderbuch

J.K. Rowling wollten viele in der Verbannung sehen. Kam anders: Sie hat ein Kinderbuch geschrieben. Und das ist jetzt schon ein Bestseller.

" A year ago, J.K. Rowling had a veritable shitstorm at her heels, including calls for boycot / canceling. Now she is back, with a new bestseller."
Acticle is behind a paywal..

BUT, so far the media in Germany did not portrait her as the offender, rather then the victim.
I mean they discussed what the fuzz was about, but I did not have the impression that the media held her responsible for what she did.

And this headline does not either.
But why does the media not hold her accountable for what she did/does?
Inherent transphobia.
 

Razmos

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They never have held her accountable, the media has rallied around her and other celebrities have put their thoughts in that she has always been the victim of horrible online bullies just because of her "opinions"
 

16bits

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Opinions, especially baseless, vile bigoted opinions that are hateful should have consequences.

We shouldn't give her another penny
 

Belladonna

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*BUMP*

And she is back:

www.sueddeutsche.de

J.K. Rowlings erfolgreiches neues Kinderbuch

J.K. Rowling wollten viele in der Verbannung sehen. Kam anders: Sie hat ein Kinderbuch geschrieben. Und das ist jetzt schon ein Bestseller.

" A year ago, J.K. Rowling had a veritable shitstorm at her heels, including calls for boycot / canceling. Now she is back, with a new bestseller."
Acticle is behind a paywal..

BUT, so far the media in Germany did not portrait her as the offender, rather as the victim.
I mean they discussed what the discussion was about, but I did not have the impression that the media held her responsible for what she did.

And this headline does not either.
But why does the media not hold her accountable for what she did/does?

She was never gone. Never properly scrutinised. Never held accountable for anything. If anyone dares to say anything, it's cancelling lol.
 

Strider_Blaze

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Yeah she has never truly faced any repercussions (in fact, she is more or less still getting richer by the minute), not to mention how much people were on the defense for She-Who-Is-Known-As-A-TERF.

I will never understand how rich people always play the victim card when they are rightfully called out for their bigotry.
 

eisschollee

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But it is so grating. I googled some more pieces of said news paper and the sentiment was as far as I read it:

"She is one of us"
"She just wants to be called a women"
"The new book is not good , but no TERF book either"

It makes me angry. Dear newspaper reporter , literature freelancer , whatever , she is not one of you
She is a billionaire punching down. Why is this so hard to acknowledge?

Is the sentiment thesame for other newspapers, outlets ?
 

Inugami

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Oct 25, 2017
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But it is so grating. I googled some more pieces of said news paper and the sentiment was as far as I read it:

"She is one of us"
"She just wants to be called a women"
"The new book is not good , but no TERF book either"

It makes me angry. Dear newspaper reporter , literature freelancer , whatever , she is not one of you
She is a billionaire punching down. Why is this so hard to acknowledge?

Is the sentiment thesame for other newspapers, outlets ?
"But she's made something i like, so she can't be a bad person."
 

stupei

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I mean one of the reasons is she's literally threatened the few publications that have challenged her with legal recourse because the UK is just silly like that and she's one of the richest people alive so she can throw money at a lawyer until just about anyone is buried. Yes, a lot of people don't care about transphobia, but Rowling has financially invested in making certain that those who do care (at least in the UK) cannot easily afford to say so.
 

Vashetti

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It also cannot be understated that Rowling and by extension the Potter universe are both seen as British media darlings. To this day she's credited with rejuvenating children's interests in reading. She's essentially untouchable.
 
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I mean one of the reasons is she's literally threatened the few publications that have challenged her with legal recourse because the UK is just silly like that and she's one of the richest people alive so she can throw money at a lawyer until just about anyone is buried. Yes, a lot of people don't care about transphobia, but Rowling has financially invested in making certain that those who do care (at least in the UK) cannot easily afford to say so.
Ah, so the UK doesn't have any anti-SLAPP laws then.
 

Platy

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bonus spinoff





Margaret Atwood shared a TERFy article by known transphobic (good thread about the article writer's transphobic history) which includes "trans activism run amok" and ....

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So if Margaret Atwood actually turns full terf and not just drunk or whatever, than.... it is a direct link to rowling stuff =/

edit:
didn't saw we already had a separate thread
www.resetera.com

Margaret Atwood seems to be going down the JK Rowling rabbit hole

A user on a Reddit thread has a summary. Kinda not surprised. Still disappointed. Lock if old.
 

Unrivaled

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I don't think her reputation is even tarnished for the vast majority of people. Most people still don't seem to know or care about her viewpoints.

I'm not saying it's right because it isn't, but ask the average person what TERF means and they will have no idea.
 
OP
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The New European wrote an article defending Rowling yesterday, another place to avoid

In 2020, though, she followed up with a detailed post on her website. She reiterated her support for trans people and her belief they should be able to live free from harassment; but she also revealed that as a survivor of an abusive marriage, she knew the cost of male violence, and did not want to see sex-based protections for women and girls dismantled.

It was an intimate and considered piece of writing that should have inspired sympathy even among those who disagreed. Instead, it lit a bonfire of condemnation. By the end of 2020, all three main Harry Potter stars had either directly condemned or unambiguously distanced themselves from Rowling: none offered support to her as a victim of domestic violence.


This only helps to explain some of the reaction in the UK, though. The extremity of the global condemnation of Rowling has to be understood in the context of who she is. As the creator of a generation's most beloved character, Rowling was not just treasured, but coveted. There was a feeling that she somehow belonged to her fans.

Her failure to take the required line was experienced as more than a disappointment. It was a crushing betrayal by a symbolic mother.

Rowling's beliefs are that sex is real, that male violence is a problem, that women should be able to talk about themselves in clear language, and that no woman should lose her job for expressing such opinions. No critics have convincingly explained why believing these things hurts trans people.

The rage against Rowling is actually rage against her for being a woman who has not politely faded into the background, but who has instead asserted her voice and her boundaries. That is what is specifically infuriating about her – and it's why one of the favoured tactics from her attackers was to reply to her tweets with images of pornography.

The sexual nature of the violation was not accidental. But Rowling has not buckled under the abuse. She is, for now, the inadvertent figurehead of a highly contentious issue; but she is too much her own woman to be reduced to a caricature by anyone.


www.theneweuropean.co.uk

The war against JK Rowling: How one woman became a hate figure in the debate on gender and sex

The Harry Potter author has become shorthand for so-called terfdom in the increasingly bitter debate over sex, gender and trans rights. It is a story of our times.
 

Belladonna

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Oct 30, 2017
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I'm tired. :(

No one is denying that sex is real or male violence is real. But I of course see what they are doing there...
 

stupei

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Supposedly Rowling was only talking about "fear of men" yet this horrible and incapacitating fear of men only impacts how she believes we should treat trans women. It certainly didn't stop her from marrying a man a second time. Weird how selectively it comes up.
 
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Why do so many people and places keep defending Rowling. She doesn't need defending. She has money and power. She isn't going anywhere.

I guess for the clicks or something. I don't get it.
 

Platy

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Supposedly Rowling was only talking about "fear of men" yet this horrible and incapacitating fear of men only impacts how she believes we should treat trans women. It certainly didn't stop her from marrying a man a second time. Weird how selectively it comes up.

or literally impersonating a man
 

Wallace Wells

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She didn't have a problem with her address being public in a tour guide but now it's an issue because it involves trans people
 

Valcrist

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I hate reading JK Rowling's garbage posts. This is why I avoid that side of Twitter, because it is just a sea of UK Karens being transphobic.
 

GuessMyUserName

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Oct 27, 2017
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TERFs all hyped up on twitter about 3 people taking pictures at a literal fucking landmark location as "doxxing", all the while actually harrassing those 3 individuals off of twitter and laughing at them protecting their accounts thanks to JK weaponizing her massive platform against them.

She always seems to do this shit following any period of trans recognition, like the last time she went off during Pride.
 

Palette Swap

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Oct 25, 2017
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Of course she's leaning again into that fucking awful "trans people are the real bullies" narrative that tepid "both sides" transphobic media eat up.

I read a great article about that and fucking Chapelle last week :

For years now, right-wing media has cast trans people (and especially the dreaded "TRAs" — trans rights activists) as radical, hysterical and dangerous. The primary evidence for this claim is the frequency with which they bully their critics online.

This charge is irrelevant, of course. The fact that some percentage of gay people are jerks on the internet has nothing to do with the merits of gay marriage. Transphobes regularly bully and harass trans people online; their fellow transphobes appear not to think it invalidates their cause.

And yet, the charge of bullying has become central to anti-trans rhetoric. Here is Andrew "I'm against eugenics but" Sullivan arguing that trans rights activists have the power and cultural capital to "blackmail" their opponents into submission.
(in case this isn't apparent in the quote he debunks its existence even at a marginal scale)
Bolded mine because that one part is so fucking infuriating and says it all.

michaelhobbes.substack.com

Dave Chappelle's "Some Of My Best Friends Are Trans" Story Doesn't Hold Up

The comedian says SJWs bullied a trans woman into suicide. The evidence says otherwise.
 

Cat Party

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TERFs all hyped up on twitter about 3 people taking pictures at a literal fucking landmark location as "doxxing", all the while actually harrassing those 3 individuals off of twitter and laughing at them protecting their accounts thanks to JK weaponizing her massive platform against them.

She always seems to do this shit following any period of trans recognition, like the last time she went off during Pride.
100%.

Every time trans activists have something important to talk about, it has to instead be all about how TERFs are the real victims.
 

GuessMyUserName

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Oct 27, 2017
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Oh sorry I didn't even realize JK Rowling herself broadcast their individual profiles directly to her 14 million followers, and her TERF supporters have been following suit.



Sad to see Contrapoints sticking up for this dishonest framing as well.
 

Golbez

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Oct 20, 2020
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There's a fucking wikipedia article about your house, Rowling. Literally anyone can find out where you live in 5 seconds thanks to Google. Your address is as public as it gets. Why is the picture a problem now? Oh wait 🙄

This shit is so tiresome and unnecessary.
 

TheKeipatzy

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Oh sorry I didn't even realize JK Rowling herself broadcast their individual profiles directly to her 14 million followers, and her TERF supporters have been following suit.



Sad to see Contrapoints sticking up for this dishonest framing as well.

Fuck this person. I swear, bad take after bad take. But the next video? We are told to keep it civil and not to derail it with the fact that they supported true scum fools.

Thankfully there are plenty of others in the trans community. Still frustrated.. that's all -_-
 

GuessMyUserName

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Oct 27, 2017
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JKR routinely misrepresents everything in a calculated attempt to make herself look like a victim and using that to further her transphobic ideology. It's fucking maddening to see how people keep falling for it.

3 people take pictures with rather tame signs supporting trans rights at the same place countless Harry Potter stans have done for decades and JKR uses this as an opportunity to conflate their small protest with zero following and mixing that with broader harassment and death threats, while publicly pointing out these three individuals as the face of that so her millions of fans can harass them off the platform.
 
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