Trans people get very little support on this site of the issue isn't about something political (i.e. the Trump admin trying to ban trans service members).Yeah - and the sad thing is people rarely care when transphobia happens. The amount of threads made for when celebrities are blatantly homophobic are way higher than the amount of threads for transphobia (and let me tell you - those incidents are pretty damn frequent, especially in the UK and US). I'm seeing people on twitter that leftists respect casually supporting transphobic comedians, politicians, and writers and then they get snippy when they get called out on it. Barely anyone here even talks about the military ban any more. It feels so lovely being dehumanised! Transphobia is the most/only acceptable hatred for a lot of people, and that sucks.
Another way to look at it: his takeaway could have been that good parenting, full stop, is important.He's a black dude who grew up in flint and his father was an alcoholic who was abusive to him and his mom. She practically raised him by herself. He also grew up seeing a lot of kids that look like him in similar single parent households struggle just the same as he. He was also probably reminded of this in the media he consumed growing. He probably told himself that he's not gonna be like his father when he has children and he'll be there for him. Of course a man like that would think father hood is important.
That said him throwing Same sex parents under the bus like that is wack as fuck
If any of you guys haven't seen this video yet... it's something.
I mean, there's an argument to be made about it being important for a child to have both good female and male role models, but that doesn't mean they have to be parental figures.I'm not agreeing with him but I grew up without a father and I'm sure it had an affect on me one way or another, for better or worse I'll never know.
What I mean is, there indeed is a difference between a mothers love and a fathers love
AH, finally we have the hand waving post . I was worried there for a second.
I mean he's also done plenty of blatantly transphobic posts, but those don't count right?Terry doesn't have a history of this.
So yeah, I'm willing to overlook something dumb he typed on Twitter.
I think it's worth pointing out in the OP that this is how this whole ordeal started. Notice the date of FEBRUARY 24!
He would have been fine to say just that. But that's not all he said.Didn't he just say that children need both male and female role models in their life?
He would have been fine to say just that. But that's not all he said.
I mean he's also done plenty of blatantly transphobic posts, but those don't count right?
He holds some very conservative gender essentialists views. He thinks that it's a mans job to teach a man how to be a man and women are inherently not suited for that task.If anything that makes things worse.
That article is fine, and an essential part of the debate Obama is engaging in. Why does the fact that it was written by a woman change that?
But is he wrong? I am not trying to defend any stance that is against same sex parenting, however I do feel it has to be acceptable to some degree to argue heterosexual parenting is more beneficial instead of shutting down any discussion whatsoever. What I mean is, there indeed is a difference between a mothers love and a fathers love, and that difference allows a child to experience both sides of the same coin to eventually mature with a more complete outlook on the world, which is not something that can be said for same sex parents. I am wholly ignorant on the topic so correct me to whatever degree I need to be corrected on.
He's a black dude who grew up in flint and his father was an alcoholic who was abusive to him and his mom. She practically raised him by herself. He also grew up seeing a lot of kids that look like him in similar single parent households struggle just the same as he. He was also probably reminded of this in the media he consumed growing. He probably told himself that he's not gonna be like his father when he has children and he'll be there for him. Of course a man like that would think father hood is important.
That said him throwing Same sex parents under the bus like that is wack as fuck
That's fucked up and I would've thought Terry of all people would know better.He holds some very conservative gender essentialists views. He thinks that it's a mans job to teach a man how to be a man and women are inherently not suited for that task.
I do think he has some conservative gender essentialists views which means he thinks that men are supposed to teach men how to be men and women aren't suited for that. He is shitting on same sex parenting with that framingPutting it this way, yeah I can see where he's coming from. He's not against the idea of same-sex parents. He's trying to say that as someone who practically only had one parent, he knows what's it like not having a father (or another parent), and that he'd rather not have other kids go through the same thing as he did and that they'd have both parents.
Poorly worded, but really, nothing to blow up over.
He seems pretty religious though, so I highly doubt it.Terry seems like a smart enough dude to at least listen, I think he just needs a little perspective on the matter.
Which is something obvious that doesn't need explaining, and also has nothing to do with actual parenting. Anyone can produce a baby and then dump it. He's all over the place and it doesn't have any relevance to the several arguments he seems to be trying to make.Only thing i agree with is that we can't exist without a mother and a father/biological female and biological male
I don't quite follow the logic. I had a similar situation and my takeaway was more "men are trash" and that life would have been significantly easier with just one good parent instead of an additional bad one.his father was an alcoholic who was abusive to him and his mom. She practically raised him by herself. He also grew up seeing a lot of kids that look like him in similar single parent households struggle just the same as he. He was also probably reminded of this in the media he consumed growing. He probably told himself that he's not gonna be like his father when he has children and he'll be there for him. Of course a man like that would think father hood is important.
I agree, he said it all wrong and unfortunately doubled down on the poor wording. But the general intent of female and male role models being a positive force for child rearing is not incorrect. However, there is no reason why the role model has to be a parent.I think it's a case where his wording was wrong to begin with (love is indeed not gendered, but he was probably trying to refer to paternal and maternal role modelling instead of love), but once people jumped on him he doubled down and it all led to this.
Pretty dumb comment, as many people have grown to be good human beings but were brought up in households where role modelling was terrible or non-existent.
He's a beloved public figure and his speech is hurting people that used to love him. All we want is too him to shut up for a second and listen to why he's opinion is causing damage, but instead he's doubling down on it and mocking peopleI don't get why everything has to be a fight. If you don't agree with him, whatever. It's his opinion, maybe there's something to it, maybe there's not. It doesn't necessarily mean he's hateful or evil, he just sees the world differently from how you do. It should be possible to hold differing views on social issues without it turning into a war.
how is babby made ?Only thing i agree with is that we can't exist without a mother and a father/biological female and biological male
But is he wrong? I am not trying to defend any stance that is against same sex parenting, however I do feel it has to be acceptable to some degree to argue heterosexual parenting is more beneficial instead of shutting down any discussion whatsoever. What I mean is, there indeed is a difference between a mothers love and a fathers love, and that difference allows a child to experience both sides of the same coin to eventually mature with a more complete outlook on the world, which is not something that can be said for same sex parents. I am wholly ignorant on the topic so correct me to whatever degree I need to be corrected on.
I grew up without a father period. I don't even know what this nigga look like or what his name is. I made a promise to myself that if I have children imma be in their lives no matter whatI don't quite follow the logic. I had a similar situation and my takeaway was more "men are trash" and that life would have been significantly easier with just one good parent instead of an additional bad one.
because he is proud of them.