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Terry Crews says “masculinity can be a cult.”

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Raven117

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TreadTalks said:
Please note, Terry said "masculinity can be a cult." Would you disagree with that statement?
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Unfortunately, yes it can. Especially in the context of how he is describing it.

However, the title of this thread is really misleading.

Oversoul said:
Masculinity itself is, when properly managed, a force for good.
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Absolutely. Masculinity must be tempered. It takes work and patience to mold, especially young, boys into men who are strong, compassionate, reasonable, respectful, and dedicated. When these do come together, yes, it can be a force for good. Left unchecked to its worst vices, it succumbs to its worst traits of misplaced aggression, anger, disrespect, and a whole host of other issues.

Some of the issues right now is that while society has gone to some great lengths to redefine feminism (or at least give it a broader definition), we haven't re-calibrated a definition for masculinity. As such, I fear many young men without proper leadership, are lost and don't know what to do.
 
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Surfinn

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Oversoul said:
Masculinity itself is, when properly managed, a force for good.

Being extremely macho and acting like you don't have feelings etc is taking it to far.

I think that difference is important. Blanket statements serve no purpose.
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It's important to note that Terry said it can be a cult (quote in the OP). I think that distinction should also be in the thread title
 
ohhthegore

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LionPride said:
The man was addicted

It's not as if he is saying this with no reason
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I can understand why he feels the way he does but that doesn't mean I have to agree with his view that men in relationships can't watch porn whatsoever because of what it did to him and his relationship. He's out here making videos telling woman to not allow their men to watch any porn at all and I don't agree with that
 
saenima

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Masculinity itself is not the problem. It's the ways in which it's projected, either by societal pressures or because some people are just fucking assholes.
 
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ohhthegore said:
I can understand why he feels the way he does but that doesn't mean I have to agree with his view that men in relationships can't watch porn whatsoever because of what it did to him and his relationship. He's out here making videos telling woman to not allow their men to watch any porn at all and I don't agree with that
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Do you have a link to this? I've never heard it
 
AnansiThePersona

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Terry Crews is my hero. There is no better role model for a young black dude right now. He's the top of the totem pole.
 
Geist

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Crews speaks truth.

Toxic Masculinity has practically been a religion, used throughout history to let men mentally justify some of the most heinous acts ever committed and is still used today to justify everything from inequal pay to sex trafficking.

Even if we as a society were willing to put in the effort, it would take decades of work to deprogram a cultural mindset that's been reinforced for millennia.
 
Hecht

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Yo, I don't know how this turned into relitigation of the "bitch" thread, but stop it and get on topic.
 

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LionPride said:
Nigga who are you? And is that the best you got? Whee boy I see why you get your rocks off being an ass in threads bout minorities

Funny enough the women I asked, black or otherwise, said bitch isn't near as offensive as nigga
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Don't do this, my guy. When NYC dudes are telling you Latinos and Blacks say nigga here since forever and everyone is cool about it you catch a titty attack. But when others here tell you they don't like the word bitch, you go by your surroundings as a metric. Okay homie, do you.
 
Yggfk

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LionPride is a relevant member of this community and all this persecution around him is not warranted. At all. Let's get back to the topic at hand, come on.
 
Tagyhag

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Terry continues to be fantastic, wish I could personally praise him for being a champion of so many issues.
 
Jersey_Tom

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Continuing to be too good for this world.

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kristoffer

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I think very few people know just how bad the cult can get. Gang culture is basically irrational insanity and sickening.
 
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kristoffer said:
I disagree with that decision actually, thread title is fine as is and reflects what Terry Crews is saying.
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Hecht said:
I think it's a semantic argument, but sure.
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IMO it's an important change to make because we have people commenting on what he's saying as if he's demonizing masculinity in any sense, thus detracting from the overall discussion of the points he makes (ie blanket statements, etc).

Thanks for doing it
 
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Always better to have actual quote though, especially if he intentionally added a qualifier like "can be"
 
Chopchop

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He's got a point. There are a lot of reprehensible behaviors and values that are pushed on guys, who are then told that those things are manly. It should stop.
 
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kristoffer said:
I disagree with that decision actually, thread title is fine as is and reflects what Terry Crews is saying.
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But he wasn't calling masculinity a cult he was saying that masculinity can be like a cult. There is an obvious difference between the two statements and since we have so many people who just read the thread title it needs to be specific.
 
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Proteus said:
But he wasn't calling masculinity a cult he was saying that masculinity can be like a cult. There is an obvious difference between the two statements and since we have so many people who just read the thread title it needs to be specific.
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Exactly, and we already had people commenting on it, assuming he was saying all masculinity is bad.
 
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Doof Angle said:
I figured you were! I'm worried that the sort of broad headline would discourage folks from looking into the meat of the article, so I thought I'd chime in. Sorry!
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No worries ;)

I was mentally answering another poster but then just kinda posted without quoting.

The strongest hurdle to get this conversation going in earnest is the fragility endemic to toxic masculinity. As per usual in these sorts of paradigm shifts. The people that would most benefit from listening are the first to cover their ears.
 

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saenima said:
No worries ;)

I was mentally answering another poster but then just kinda posted without quoting.

The strongest hurdle to get this conversation going in earnest is the fragility endemic to toxic masculinity. As per usual in these sorts of paradigm shifts. The people that would most benefit from listening are the first to cover their ears.
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Absolutely. Folks will use any kind of justification to avoid doing any introspection.
 

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ohhthegore said:
I can understand why he feels the way he does but that doesn't mean I have to agree with his view that men in relationships can't watch porn whatsoever because of what it did to him and his relationship. He's out here making videos telling woman to not allow their men to watch any porn at all and I don't agree with that
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I mean, he's not wrong. The vast majority of porn can be damaging, especially to young men who's minds and views about women are still developing. Porn addiction is a huge problem that isn't given the scrutiny and visibility it deserves, and absolutely has an effect on people's mental and physical well-being.

Just for clarity's sake, I'm also a recovering porn addict. You should consider this perspective though because porn has affected and continues to affect millions of people in negative ways, obviously some people worse than others.

Porn is also absolutely an example of toxic masculinity taken to the extreme. Maybe if there were more women producing porn in ways that wasn't demeaning and degrading to women it would be different, but that isn't reality.
 
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