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Tesla Model 3 |OT| Shoot into Space if Old

Dec 13, 2017
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Did you notice that there is no longer an "Enhanced Autopilot" option, only an "Autopilot" option?

Basically the "Enhanced" stuff like Navigate on Autopilot, Summon, and Autopark are now part of the "Full self driving" option...

I'm guessing they did this because you literally got no new functionality that worked right now if you ordered "Full self driving" in the past.
Yeah noticed that after I posted. Kinda a bummer as I did want those features.. Buy will most likely add the FSD down the road whenever it becomes legal anyways
 

Wollan

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Oct 25, 2017
2,913
Norway but living in France
Receiving my Model 3 on March 22nd (Norway). Had it pre-ordered with 'enhanced autopilot'. Just got this SMS:

"We've upgraded your Model 3 with Full Self driving Capability for free. This includes; Navigate on Autopilot, Auto Park, Auto Replace, Autopark, and Summon."
 
Oct 31, 2018
827
I hope Tesla hit huge sales with the low price model 3, they do have issues though, there is a you tuber who hit a deer in the U.K., and he had to wait 3 months for a replacement bonnet...

Also where do you go if you have issues if they have no physical stores?
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,072
Redmond, WA
I hope Tesla hit huge sales with the low price model 3, they do have issues though, there is a you tuber who hit a deer in the U.K., and he had to wait 3 months for a replacement bonnet...

Also where do you go if you have issues if they have no physical stores?
They have repair locations that differ from the sales stores.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,285
I don't quite get the logic behind giving 2019 EAP buyers FSD for free. Is it because they paid more for the car before the price drop, I suppose? I'd be really annoyed if I purchased in December.

Also, I'm still unclear on features going forward. If I elect not to pay $2k for FSD, what happens to my EAP features that are now listed as FSD-only? Will I get Advanced Summon which they previously said was an EAP feature?
 
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Oct 25, 2017
307
Well... It does suck that someone who bought neither upgrade can get the whole shebang for $5K, but at least the FSD upgrade price is dropping to $2K...



If you bought enhanced autopilot, FSD upgrade costs $2k instead of $5k

I don't quite get the logic behind giving 2019 EAP buyers FSD for free. Is it because they paid more for the car before the price drop, I suppose? I'd be really annoyed if I purchased in December.

Also, I'm still unclear on features going forward. If I elect not to pay $2k for FSD, what happens to my EAP features that are now listed as FSD-only? Will I get Advanced Summon which they previously said was an EAP feature?
My understanding is that no features will be taken away and you'll get advanced summon when it comes out. What you won't get if you don't upgrade is stop light and stop sign detection.

I will probably upgrade to FSD as features start rolling out but uhhh, maybe I don't want to be the first to test the stop light detection, haha...
 

Wollan

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Oct 25, 2017
2,913
Norway but living in France
I don't quite get the logic behind giving 2019 EAP buyers FSD for free. Is it because they paid more for the car before the price drop, I suppose? I'd be really annoyed if I purchased in December.
I'm in this category where I'm now receiving upgrade to FSD 'for free' on my current EAP order that's yet to be delivered (as detailed in my post further up).

However (after AP + FSD has become available as options for the first time in Norway + all the price reductions in place): If I cancel my current order and re-order right now with FSD from the get-go I would end up at the same exact price as when I ordered it with EAP a couple of months ago. Hence why I'm getting the upgrade to FSD "for free". At least it seems to ensure me an upgrade to Harware 3.0 when it deploys as it is needed for FSD which will also increase re-sale value.

People who lose out on $$$ in savings are in essence those whom have already physically received an EAP vehicle in the last few months (and can no longer return it).
 
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Oct 25, 2017
4,227
Houston
the messaging around the EAP and FSD changes is completely fucked up.
Like if you bought EAP for 5500 you should get FSD no matter when you purchased it.

furthermore the math in this press release is making my head spin.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/upgradin...qD8fhiJJ2HiAHC4s8zTpv9u0Y3XMuCfC51DY40RX0yn8o

buy FSD for full 6k less than before? EAP was 5500, unless they are referring to back when you could buy FSD? i have no clue. Also half of 3k is not 2k and half of 5k is not 3k. stop fucking this up, it shouldnt be that hard.
 
Aug 3, 2018
122
In comparing the Model 3 Standard Range Plus against a base Model Y Base (37K vs 39K), it appears the Model Y Base compares very favorably, especially if what I am seeing is true: that all Model Y's will have a premium interior. Is there anything I am missing comparing a car that will be a bit larger, but seemingly a (much?) better value?
 
Oct 29, 2017
880
I drive a lot and don’t have access to a home charger.


Would it be a dumb idea to get a base 35k model 3 that only gets 220 miles per charge? I drive a lot and would have to drive 20 minutes or so from where I live to the nearest charger.

I really want a model 3 but don’t think it’s practical right now unfortunately.
 
Oct 25, 2017
2,285
I drive a lot and don’t have access to a home charger.


Would it be a dumb idea to get a base 35k model 3 that only gets 220 miles per charge? I drive a lot and would have to drive 20 minutes or so from where I live to the nearest charger.

I really want a model 3 but don’t think it’s practical right now unfortunately.
This is what I do. I have a supercharger ~15 minutes away that I use once a week until I have home and/or work charging. It's not a problem, but it is a consideration. I think you're really going to feel the vampire drain, although it's less than it has been in the past. I have the Long Range model, and a short commute to work.

Also consider that although you have 220 mile range, you're don't want to be getting down to 10% and shouldn't be charging to 100% often.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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This is what I do. I have a supercharger ~15 minutes away that I use once a week until I have home and/or work charging. It's not a problem, but it is a consideration. I think you're really going to feel the vampire drain, although it's less than it has been in the past. I have the Long Range model, and a short commute to work.

Also consider that although you have 220 mile range, you're don't want to be getting down to 10% and shouldn't be charging to 100% often.
I drive 80-100 miles daily so I would have to charge 3-4 times a week... how long does it take to charge?
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I drive 80-100 miles daily so I would have to charge 3-4 times a week... how long does it take to charge?
It's a bit hard to say because the charge characteristics of the standard range is not fully known, but supercharging charges very quickly for a little while (assuming your initial state of charge is low) and tapers off as you approach 100%. So it depends on how much juice you feel comfortable with when you leave the charger.

Your usage pattern suggests that you will be at this charger pretty much every day or every other day (probably for 20-30 minutes each visit), so that sounds pretty inconvenient to me. I don't think I would buy a Model 3 in your situation.
 
Oct 25, 2017
5,709
I don't think EVs are worth it unless you can charge at home or at work. That's where the savings kick in.

I've seen some people leave their car overnight at a nearby public charger too.

You're speeding up battery degradation by frequently fast charging too.
 
Oct 27, 2017
257
I drive a lot and don’t have access to a home charger.


Would it be a dumb idea to get a base 35k model 3 that only gets 220 miles per charge? I drive a lot and would have to drive 20 minutes or so from where I live to the nearest charger.

I really want a model 3 but don’t think it’s practical right now unfortunately.
You would definitely need the long range battery, or a dedicated home/work charger for ownership to not be extremely cumbersome.
 
Oct 25, 2017
206
It really sounds like it'd be huge pain to have an EV as your main vehicle in your particular situation. If you had a garage at home where you could at least plug into a 110 volt outlet and get 40-50 miles back every night, that would be borderline. But needing to supercharge every other day? Way too much of a hassle and seriously cuts into the fuel cost savings
 
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Oct 29, 2017
880
Yeah, I am tempted but am not in a situation to where getting a Tesla would be practical or financially smart. I just graduated college and am looking to upgrade from my current car so I’m probably going to get a Honda Insight or accord hybrid. Then, in 3-5 years when hopefully the price of the car decreases/the used market is saturated and I have a steady home to charge it, then I can invest in a Tesla. It’s really tempting because I absolutely love the model 3 but I would probably regret it.
 

Wollan

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Oct 25, 2017
2,913
Norway but living in France
Tesla Model 3 sets new all-time record in Norway for amount of cars for a specific model registered within a month with 5305 registered in March.
It's also the first time ever where over 50% of new cars registered are purely electric. The rest is divided across (highest to lowest) hybrids, gazoline & diesel.

Previous all-time record was 2200 Nissan Leaf in March 2018.

PS. Picking up my own Model 3 on Wednesday.
 
Oct 27, 2017
1,072
Redmond, WA
Tesla Model 3 sets new all-time record in Norway for amount of cars for a specific model registered within a month with 5305 registered in March.
It's also the first time ever where over 50% of new cars registered are purely electric. The rest is divided across (highest to lowest) hybrids, gazoline & diesel.

Previous all-time record was 2200 Nissan Leaf in March 2018.

PS. Picking up my own Model 3 on Wednesday.
Enjoy your Model 3. You are gonna love it! :)
 
Oct 25, 2017
4,227
Houston
It really sounds like it'd be huge pain to have an EV as your main vehicle in your particular situation. If you had a garage at home where you could at least plug into a 110 volt outlet and get 40-50 miles back every night, that would be borderline. But needing to supercharge every other day? Way too much of a hassle and seriously cuts into the fuel cost savings
so charging on 110 volt, charges the battery at ~3mi/hr. So even 8 hours is only going to give you 24 miles and thats assuming it doesn't pop the fuse. You really need a 240v plug.
My mid range is limited to charging at 30mi/hr for some reason, but even fully drained starting charging at 930pm it can be fully charged for the "daily" amount which is ~90% capacity before anyone needs to use it.


Also you guys should check out the plug share app. It shows chargers in google maps like maps. (probably is google maps) and tells you if they are Tesla or other type of charger. Both trips ive taken from Houston to Austin i've found a hotel to charge at that had 240v charging stations to charge at while i was at conferences.

congrats on everyone picking up their 3's soon. You're gonna love it.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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put in my deposit yesterday and they already want to deliver my model 3 on thursday. they haven’t even confirmed buying out my lease yet nor have i gone through the financing because of that.

also be careful adding FSD right after the deposit, you can’t remove it unless you call them...

this whole experience has been vague and borderline fustrating. can’t wait to get past this part and not have to deal with it again.
 
Oct 25, 2017
17
Anyone have any experience with a failed software update? I received one late Thursday night, went ahead and installed it, and about 45 minutes later, it said that the update has failed. It mentioned that I would have to wait for the next update but it seems kind of silly that I can't at least redownload and try it again.

I'm a bit bummed that I seem to be stuck on an older software version for the time being. This happen to anyone else?