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Test footage for The Last Night's Options menu
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"Far too toxic" is blaming victims of abuse for their abuser's suicide.
It seldom happens that my hype deflates as fast as it did with this game. The reveal trailer at that Microsoft event all those years ago was great and the game does have an incredibly appealing art style but I'd never in a million years willfully support a gamergate asshole like Tim Soret so fuck this game and its options menu.
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There are newer examples in this two page thread showing he is still trash
I think what he intends to say is not a feminism that wants equality and equal treatment but instead wants to achieve a superiority and privilege for women.
That's not feminism... he's making a bad faith misrepresentation. Feminism is literally defined as equal rights for both sexes.
Can't wait for this game to come out so that these threads won't show up anytime this dude does anything.
It probably refers to things like "positive discrimination", "affirmative action", etc., where a feminist could feel that gender-based discrimination is OK and good as long as it favors women, while a true egalitarian would feel that gender-based discrimination was bad no matter what. Doesn't describe everyone who would call themselves feminist or egalitarian, of course, but is probably the distinction he wanted to make.
Apart from him being a shithead, one of my problems with the game is that it's lazy as fuck. It's one thing to say "what would the future look like if Feminism was in charge?" and develop a world based on that. This looks like he just took Blade Runner and shit his misogyny all over it.
Like, you can't do this. The circumstances that led to Blade Runner are entirely different from what a feminist ruling class would implement. You might as well say "Blade Runner but Socialism," even though there are big neon advertisements and megacorps everywhere.
Also, I doubt he'd have the ability to do a nuanced dive on what a feminist future would even be like, if he even bothered to try.
Dude's still a shitheel who thinks Ben Shapiro has valid ideas. I've got plenty of other games to play made by people who aren't complete morons.
Don't see why I should financially reward a game dev with rotten ideologies that supports harassers. There's plenty of games to play.
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honestly resetera's reaction to this game makes me bummed on resetera. i guess you all freaked out when the new chapelle came out?
been looking forward to playing this since the e3 reveal
been looking forward to playing this since the e3 reveal
Some people might care more about things beyond an aesthetic. I have zero interest in playing a regressive, anti-cyberpunk game.
I remember how ERA was so hyped about this game and it's awesome quality pixel art. Then the guy behind the game was exposed..Welp
Personally I don't care who's making the game. If the final product looks as good and has a decent gameplay, I'll just play it.
Not feminism but supposedly based off of a type extreme modern radical feminism. I mean, in 2019 we're seeing 4chan supporting forms of modern radical feminism, we can't conflate them.
But the game looks sooooo good. Does it really matter if it's misogynistic when it looks so good? Like, it looks really, really good. Don't bring politics into this. The game looks too good for that. The dude say he was sorry. What more do you people want? Typical cancel culture going after innocent people.What about the point of these tweets?
/s
Calm down, I'm talking about the topic of this thread, unlike the rest of you.What about the point of these tweets?
Maybe people might be wary of and turned off by a story-heavy game from a small indie team where the writer, creator, and premise has been shown to embrace gross values and a questionable understanding of the genre
I remember how ERA was so hyped about this game and it's awesome quality pixel art. Then the guy behind the game was exposed..Welp
Personally I don't care who's making the game. If the final product looks as good and has a decent gameplay, I'll just play it.
I was probably the biggest proponent for this game when I was following it during the GAF years. Arguably, I was a sizable factor in getting a lot of people on GAF interested in the game since I was constantly updating the threads with new GIFs and sharing development tweets. This was one of my most anticipated game for quite a while
"Guys, I don't want to talk about the fact that the game is literally based around horrifically sexist ideas. I'd rather live under my rock and ignore it."
It's really so unfortunate that this game looks as beautiful as it does
Because chances are I'll never play it
Because chances are I'll never play it
Okay? That's not what this thread is about, though. It's clearly about footage of the options menu and that was what I was commenting on. I don't really understand the point of showing it without any more context, but it still reminded me of the game, so maybe it worked? I dunno.
The thread is about the game. And if you enter the thread to announce that you don't care about the fact that the basis of the game is that women are evil, you're going to be rightfully called out on it.
If the thread was only about the short gif of the controller with fucked up buttons under fancy lighting, then the thread should be closed, because there's nothing to discuss.
I never took seriously what he said about the game's premisse because it sounded like a joke. A real bad and obnoxious joke, but a joke nonetheless, to mock feminists and etc.
I doubt that it was once the game's premisse, because it's too ridiculous to be true. And I doubt that Microsoft would have backed a game like that.
But anyway, graphically it looks amazing
Really curious to see how the final game turns out
Then you see the kind of tweets he likes on Twitter and comments made elsewhere, and realize no, it wasn't a joke
I love to make completely-straight-faced jokes that cast my upcoming game in a terrible light and then when everyone gets upset I say "oh, that's not the story anymore" instead of clarifying that it was a joke(?)
Come on, guy.
Yeah...still beating the wrong drum I see. I can only assume he is dismissive of Scott Benson's feelings:
Well, we'll pretend for a moment that you didn't know about the game's sexist background when you made your first post.
I then replied to you and showed you the tweets. Are you still excited to play the game?
What's wrong with Glenn Greenwald? Dude did a great job here in Brazil this year.
I don't think both of you understood what I meant
Him being a piece of shit is why he made the "joke". Because he clearly only meant to offend and irritate some people.
What I mean is that it probably was never the premisse of the game.
You guys really believe that when he was pitching the game to Microsoft he told them THAT premisse? Don't be so gullible
It was't a joke. That was the premise. He said it himself.
What he told Microsoft is literally unrelated to what he said publicly on Twitter. The two have nothing to do with each other.
Oh come on man. People are upset that he has horrible viewpoints on topics that might actually be in the game itself and you're bummed that we're disappointed???
And did you not actually see the Chapelle thread? Or the separate thread about certain jokes that Chapelle made that weren't well received not only by Era, but by social media in general?
Don't you think it's possible that he misled them? Especially given how they stopped talking about the game almost immediately after those statements by him came to light, followed by them subsequently pulling funding.
"He said it himself" ... On Twitter
So what goes is what he said on Twitter
I can't keep up with you guys, really
I'm not deffending him, by any means at all, but taking "bait" as something seriously like that is very naive
Oh, I fully understood what you meant. It's just nonsense.
If he was joking, why not just clarify that it was a joke when the heat was on, instead of specifically stating that the game's story had changed since then?
Erm.. Yes...?
Should we not take things at face-value because a lead developer posts them on Twitter without any indication that they're a joke, never attempts to clarify that they're a joke (and in fact specifically confirms that "actually that's what the game was about at one point" by saying it isn't anymore), his Twitter is full of straight dev updates, and they're entirely consistent with all the rest of his Twitter history?
Clearly.
The basis of the game is that women are evil? I mean the dude is certainly spouting problematic things, but that's one hell of a leap.
You could easily make the argument following this same logic to criticize or ignore anything in the cyberpunk genre as it's inherently xenophobic. So much of the accepted cyberpunk aesthetic is doused in the now very distant racist anxiety of Japanese influence in the 80's, does that mean you have to agree with it? No, it's a setting, it's background. it's not very constructive to just shout "The entire basis of Blade Runner is that the Japanese are evil and are going to take over if we're not careful!" and ignore the gargantuan amount of artistic merit that is built upon it.
I see nothing wrong in stories taking place in twisted heightened reflections of reality. The guy said some weirdo shit that I don't agree with for sure, but as an artist myself, I'm not the type to ignore someone's expression because of whatever ideology they harbor, publicly or privately, I'll judge the work on it's own merits rather than extrapolating it's entire meaning and worth from a series of tweets.
It's entirely possible that the game is exactly what it is feared to be, but until the actual art reflects that, It's remains on my radar.
If it is people should know and we should be informing them. But until someone gets the actual game in their hands we have no way to know. The anti feminist talking points might be so poorly executed that it ends up being an endorsement of feminism and a scathing look at the real nature of misogynists, for example. Like that weird incel comic.
Personally, I'm not convinced that this isn't vaperware now. It was originally supposed to release in 2016.
Wasnt there even a demo for this game like, waaaaay before they showed it at E3? I remember Patrick Klepek playing it like, when he was still at Giant Bomb.
