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#ThankYouGameFreak trending on Twitter

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ExoExplorer

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Jan 3, 2019
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It's a really sad situation when people feel like they need to say this in light of the controversies. Of course, devs should never be harassed or sent death threats at all, let alone over decisions they probably never had a say in. Thank you for all the people who put work into making one of my favorite childhood games. Even though I am unhappy with the direction Gamefreak has decided to take the franchise, I hope those of you who are excited enjoy the game.
 

Chauzu

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Oct 26, 2017
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It’s an ever increasing workload. Graphics is the obvious part but old mons in new gens also get treated by new movepools and often changed stats and new abilities. I’ll agree with their notion it had to happen someday, even if I disagree it had to happen now, but it’s whatever.

But for some actual justifications:

”It costs too much.”
”It takes up too much resources, we’d have to release games at a slower pace which doesn’t work since the games are just a small part of the Pokémon chain of events.”

Those are the key ones for GameFreak I imagine and I’m fine with anyone disagreeing with them but they are actual justifications.
 

Chauzu

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Oct 26, 2017
5,673
I'll just say you must not follow gaming as closely as you think. The controversy surrounding dexit is a drop in the bucket compared to the vitriol aimed at games like Infinite Warfare and Mass Effect: Andromeda.
Usually games like that get it because they are unanimously considered bad and most people move on pretty soon. This is a game that hasn’t even released yet and I presume few doubt it won’t be at least solid.
 

MachGao

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Oct 28, 2017
128
I get having criticism towards GF and Sword and Shield but at the same time I don't really see any reason to attack people actually using the hashtag like it was intended.
 

Jbone115

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Oct 25, 2017
1,029
Exactly. Pokemon conversation is vile, even on Era (which is supposed to be friendlier compared to other places on the internet).
Ultimately, this whole Pokémon controversy is about a video game that doesn’t live up to some people’s expectations - they didn’t commit a crime or hurt anyone or exploit gambling addiction. Criticism is fine, but let’s not go overboard.
 

Lentic

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Oct 27, 2017
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Gamefreak who has rested on its laurels for generations making minor improvements that most companies like EA would get raked over the coals for, finally gets some valid criticism and people jump to their defence. Hilarious keep it up.
Or maybe it's, "We might not like some of the changes you're making, but we're still thankful for what you've given us."

AKA being a decent and understanding human being who realizes that there's hate being thrown their way, and being able to put aside toys for a second.
 

AllChan7

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Apr 30, 2019
790
I really cannot for the life of me understand why people get a kick out of putting game devs down in any capacity. And on a constant basis too. Glad to see some positivity for once and really hopes this cheers them up.
 

MillionIII

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Sep 11, 2018
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It’s an ever increasing workload. Graphics is the obvious part but old mons in new gens also get treated by new movepools and often changed stats and new abilities. I’ll agree with their notion it had to happen someday, even if I disagree it had to happen now, but it’s whatever.

But for some actual justifications:

”It costs too much.”
”It takes up too much resources, we’d have to release games at a slower pace which doesn’t work since the games are just a small part of the Pokémon chain of events.”

Those are the key ones for GameFreak I imagine and I’m fine with anyone disagreeing with them but they are actual justifications.
Costs too much? Too many resources? I don’t buy that, this is just excuses for one of the biggest gaming franchise. This sounds like “Game Freak is a small indie company”.
 

SkullHydra

The Fallen
Feb 20, 2018
280
I really dislike a lot of decisions GameFreak has made with the last few games, especially Sw/Sh. But Pokémon is a franchise that I've loved my entire life and I've had many great friendships and experiences that have happened because of it.

After hearing about how morale is supposedly low at GameFreak right now, I feel like this is a good thing. People can still be critical of some of the choices in the games while thanking the developers for the many great things they've put into them.
 

AllChan7

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Apr 30, 2019
790
I'm not bending over to soothe the spirits of some billion-dollar company and this shameless corporate bootlicking is definitely not the wave.

I'm not complaining because I never intended on buying the games and I wasn't going to play Gen 8 dex OU either, but the complaints have merit.

And of course, death threats and harassment never have merit.
No one is saying that. What people are referring to is the hateful comments that have been said about Gamefreak devs. Valid and reasonable criticism over their decisions is fine and I completely understand why people don't wanna buy the games. At the same time, its perfectly fine to acknowledge actual human beings worked on these games
 

Lobster Roll

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Sep 24, 2019
534
Chicago, IL
Anyone who thinks Game Freak is as scummy and predatory as EA is straight up delusional.
Pokemon is probably more like Star Wars where the goal is to release as many pieces of media within the IP as possible while tripling down on merch merch merch merch merch merch merch merch. Only difference being that Pokemon tries to coax people into making multiple purchases of the same game by releasing different versions where the difference from one to the other is intentional exclusion of Pokemon.
 

Xavi

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Oct 27, 2017
9,019
Lightning for Smash
What does a comment from someone on 2ch of all places have to do with criticism?
*Twitter

Unless I'm missing some context here, this is a perfect example of the absolute ridiculousness of Game Freak stans constantly implying that any criticism of the company means you support genuine harassment, too. It's madness.
You seem offended by a single hashtag. I never said you are not allowed to criticize GF. Also, yes, you are missing some context.
 
Jun 10, 2019
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I like movements like this, where fans can come together and share memories on Game Freak getting them through some dark times or whatever happy memory they're responsible for.

But I feel like movements like this prevent people from properly criticizing the company for whatever decisions they make. Yeah, GF is getting death threats, but it doesn't change the fact that some of the criticisms they are getting for their recent games haven't changed and they haven't done much to fix the problem.
 

Chauzu

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Oct 26, 2017
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Costs too much? Too many resources? I don’t buy that, this is just excuses for one of the biggest gaming franchise. This sounds like “Game Freak is a small indie company”.
You are fine to see it as excuses but in the end it’s a business. As a fan you are free to disagree but ”there’s no justification” is still simply false.

That’s my main issue with all of this, I’m pretty sympathethic with people upset with Dexit and my personal fav Chansey didn’t make the cut but the level of argumentation is waaaaay to hyperbole.

Like GameFreak made a poster for the anime that had Venusaur that isn’t in SwSh and somehow that’s a punch in the face to some? That GameFreak doesn’t act like Venusaur got thanos’d and still exists and will still be an important part of Pokémon?
 

Gold Arsene

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Oct 27, 2017
20,626
To come into this Thank You thread to whine more about GF is on some next level stupid shit imo. But i haven't said or pretended to do whatever it is you say i'm doing. There is a time and place.

Also are you saying Gamefreak is going around harassing and sending death threats to their fans? I don't even know what your trying to get at me about to be honest?
No there are GF defenders who group anyone with the lightest negative thing to say about GF with the worst of the bunch to try and invalidate any criticism they have.

I agree with you that this shouldn't be another "complain about GF" thread but I also don't like the notion that everything is the complainers fault.
 

Lentic

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Oct 27, 2017
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Yeah, GF is getting death threats, but it doesn't change the fact that some of the criticisms they are getting for their recent games haven't changed and they haven't done much to fix the problem.
Then the people who have a problem should accept it and move on. No one is entitled to them making their game a specific way. Criticism is making your point and moving on. Continuing to pile on in a vicious manner until they cave into your demands is harassment.
 

Phendrana

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Oct 26, 2017
2,507
Sydney, Australia
You seem offended by a single hashtag. I never said you are not allowed to criticize GF. Also, yes, you are missing some context.
You've just clarified that it was an unrelated Twitter comment, so no, it turns out I wasn't missing any context at all.

What I'm offended by is the constant implication from some people here that criticising Game Freak means you support the crazy people who take things too far.
 

Timmy00

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Oct 27, 2017
206
Feels funny that I've been playing pokemon since red and the franchise is still going strong. I can't wait to try out Sword soon!

I'm glad some people feel comfortable enough to speak about how the series helped them through rough ti-
lmao there's no point trying to explain to idiots who don't care and won't listen
it's like ok boomer but for bootlickers
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I like how a couple of harmless tweets and people just saying "thanks for the games I loved playing in my childhood" brought out some pretty bad reactions but I'm not surprised.
 

ExoExplorer

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Jan 3, 2019
121
I really dislike a lot of decisions GameFreak has made with the last few games, especially Sw/Sh. But Pokémon is a franchise that I've loved my entire life and I've had many great friendships and experiences that have happened because of it.

After hearing about how morale is supposedly low at GameFreak right now, I feel like this is a good thing. People can still be critical of some of the choices in the games while thanking the developers for the many great things they've put into them.
Yes, this is exactly it. I hope people can separate wanting to thank the devs for all the work they've done from people's criticism of the game. Unfortunately, there seem to many bad faith actors out there. People who actually harass devs and others who want to paint those with valid complaints as toxic.
 

funky

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Oct 25, 2017
7,328
Just dont buy the game.

If you have been continuity disappointing with GameFreak's output. DONT BUY THE GAME.

Its the only way to effect change.
 

Megaman5

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Nov 15, 2018
157
Anyone who thinks Game Freak is as scummy and predatory as EA is straight up delusional.
They release a purposely gimped version first every generation then add features like post game, move tutors, etc. in the updated version 2 years later and charge full price for it. Then they gimp the first version by removing those previous features added again in the next generation and repeat. They don't sound any better than EA to me.
 
Jun 10, 2019
129
Then the people who have a problem should accept it and move on. No one is entitled to them making their game a specific way. Criticism is making your point and moving on. Continuing to pile on in a vicious manner until they cave into your demands is harassment.
These people have been mad about it for like what? 6 or 7 months? Let them be mad about it.

Game Freak won't cave into their demands regardless of how many people complain. If they did then Game Freak would've shaped up after XY
 
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