The 2019 Golden Globe Nominees are out; Black Panther nominated for Best Motion Picture

Oct 25, 2017
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I honestly don't understand why people pretend to be surprised by this.

Black Panther was one of the best reviewed films of 2018. 97% on RottenTomatoes and 88 on Metacritic. On top of that, it was also a cultural phenomenon and and one of the most culturally important film releases of our generation.

When you put those two facts together, it's hard for me to understand why anyone would be confused at a Best Picture nomination.
I guess I just heavily disagree with the reviews and feel that its just an average marvel movie with a good villain. I seriously don't understand how it managed to be the best reviewed comic book movie of all time on Metacritic.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Just a reminder that this are the scores for these movies
  1. A Star is Born- 8.1, Top Critic score 8.4
  2. Blackkklansman - 8.3, Top Critics score 8.6
  3. Black Panther- 8.2, Top Critic Score 8.9
  4. If Beale Street Could Talk- 8.7, Top Critic Score 8.1
  5. Bohemian Rhapsody- 6.1, Top Critic Score 5.5
  6. Green Book- 7.7, Top Critic Score 8.2
  7. The Favorite- 8.5, Top Critic Score 8.8
  8. Roma- 9.3, Top Critic Score 9.4
Regardless of how you feel about Black Panther, I don't understand how some people say it does not deserve its place in these awards when it's one of the best-reviewed movies of the year. Bohemian Rhapsody, on the other hand, is not and I'm not quite sure why it's even here, to begin with.
 
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Oct 28, 2017
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Infinity War was the better marvel movie.

It's not the better general movie.
Black Panther feels uniquely generic. I'm not saying it was bad from a Marvel or standard movie standpoint but outside of its subject matter, the rest of the movie was middle of the road solid. And there's nothing wrong with that.


It's a super hero movie that is no where near as good as other movies from that same company.

I feel like the only reason it's there is to stave off social media backlash and articles talking about "are they out of touch for not nominating black panther".

No one wants another Oscars So White equivalent.
See this is where I'm conflicted, I think it should be a applauded for it's commercial success and heralded as a gateway movie about black folks that's not some by the numbers Tyler Perry clownin' bullshit however, by my own optics of movie quality it's nomination almost feels token. This is where I'm conflicted.

Then again, I'm not sure I've seen enough movies this year to say that BP shouldn't be nominated, might just be a weak year.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Providence / Boston
Sometimes I wonder what movie did the critics watch because they made it out to be this critically acclaimed film when....it wasn't.
That's... not how it works. Black Panther being critically acclaimed is an unarguable fact. Your personal opinion is not important in that regard.

You literally just said, "The movie isn't critically acclaimed because I disagree with the critics."

Of course, the fact that you already said this only got nominated to appease black people, which is disgustingly racist, tells me all I need to know about you.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Massachusetts
I honestly don't understand why people pretend to be surprised by this.

Black Panther was one of the best reviewed films of 2018. 97% on RottenTomatoes and 88 on Metacritic. On top of that, it was also a cultural phenomenon and and one of the most culturally important film releases of our generation.

When you put those two facts together, it's hard for me to understand why anyone would be confused at a Best Picture nomination.
For the Golden Globes or an Academy Award nomination in a pool of nine, it isn't. Using the old format it would be very surprising.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Supporting actor is stacked. How would he fit in?
Chalamet and Driver aren't entirely safe at the Oscars, I would bet Sam Elliott gets nominated in place of Chalamet. Then it becomes a fight between Driver and Michael B Jordan.

Honestly, I feel Rockwell/Chalamet/Jordan/Driver are all fringe nominees at this point and Elliott/Grant/Ali are the locks come Oscar time. So pick any 2 of the 4 and none would surprise me.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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I think the most important indicator of Oscar glory is best screenplay, very few post-2000 best pictures winners weren’t nominated in this globe category and ASIB wasn’t
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Long Island
Black Panther feels uniquely generic. I'm not saying it was bad from a Marvel or standard movie standpoint but outside of its subject matter, the rest of the movie was middle of the road solid. And there's nothing wrong with that.




See this is where I'm conflicted, I think it should be a applauded for it's commercial success and heralded as a gateway movie about black folks that's not some by the numbers Tyler Perry clownin' bullshit however, by my own optics of movie quality it's nomination almost feels token. This is where I'm conflicted.

Then again, I'm not sure I've seen enough movies this year to say that BP shouldn't be nominated, might just be a weak year.
Oh yeah absolutely, its sad that it took until 2018 for this to happen and it knocked down barriers that should have been knocked down 50 years ago in Hollywood. Where I don't believe it deserves best picture I wouldn't be opposed to it getting a 10-15 minute special recognition of the doors it has opened for black actors and directors going forward.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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It's a 2 hour movie. You can't fit everything in there. What would you have added or changed to make it better?
Just using an example, but Steve Jobs did away with feeling the need to cover his whole life and focus on 3 specific moments. As is, Bohemian Rhapsody felt more content to give an excuse to go through the entire Queen catalog, which to their credit, worked out tremendously for them from a financial perspective.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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ee this is where I'm conflicted, I think it should be a applauded for it's commercial success and heralded as a gateway movie about black folks that's not some by the numbers Tyler Perry clownin' bullshit however, by my own optics of movie quality it's nomination almost feels token. This is where I'm conflicted.
But it's nominated alongside Blackkklansman and Beale Street. They could've easily told Black Panther to fuck off and went with those two instead if they merely wanted to throw us a bone.

Maybe

just

MAYBE







a lot of people in Hollywood actually liked it and thought it deserved a nomination?
 
Nov 27, 2018
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I think the most important indicator of Oscar glory is best screenplay, very few post-2000 best pictures winners weren’t nominated in this globe category and ASIB wasn’t
Yeah it's odd it didn't get in there after all the love. Lots of weird misses for other films in categories they were supposed to be slam dunks in like Yorgos for director, Spike Lee for screenplay and Beale Street for score.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Saskatchewan, Canada
Just using an example, but Steve Jobs did away with feeling the need to cover his whole life and focus on 3 specific moments. As is, Bohemian Rhapsody felt more content to give an excuse to go through the entire Queen catalog, which to their credit, worked out tremendously for them from a financial perspective.
That's what Queen is though. They're famous because of their music so of course they would want to add in as much as they could. It still went through the darker aspects of Freddy's life which would eventually lead to his death.
 
Jan 31, 2018
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Black panther being nominated is bad enough but if it wins I’ll literally never take these awards seriously again. It’s a good superhero film not even tops in its genre. I can’t tell if this is just a mix of Hollywood finally recognizing that superhero films are legitimate movies and black panther being good and influential or just Disney pushing the full hype machine.

A star is born deserves to win but idk if it will since it’s a remake.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Missouri
I think the most important indicator of Oscar glory is best screenplay, very few post-2000 best pictures winners weren’t nominated in this globe category and ASIB wasn’t
There were a lot of baffling nominations here for nearly every movie that should have been shoe-ins. Only Green Book and Vice maxed out with their nomination chances. ASIB missing Elliott and Screenplay. Blackkklansman missing screenplay. The Favourite missing director. Mary Poppins missing original song.

And I think Vice will be American Hustle'd at the Oscars - lots of noms but not much love.

Hoping that this doesn't mean Driving Miss Daisy 2.0 wins BP.
 
May 21, 2018
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Bohemian Rhapsody gets nominated over First Man? Ridiculous. Do you guys know if The Death of Stalin qualifies for this year or last year? I believe it came out in the US this year while having a release late last year. Sorry to Bother You also MIA? Geez.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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That's what Queen is though. They're famous because of their music so of course they would want to add in as much as they could. It still went through the darker aspects of Freddy's life which would eventually lead to his death.
Sure, but adding in as much of their music as possible doesn't necessarily make a better film. The film is also fairly content with rewriting history in terms of how things happened.

I'm not begrudging Queen or the filmmakers for the route they took, it's more on the Globes side.
 
Nov 22, 2017
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No Searching?
No A quiet place?
Bohemian Rapsody?

Trash list.

Also Constance Wu acting was atrocious. Her nomination is laughable.
Those Disney dvd cases worked!
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Black Panther feels uniquely generic. I'm not saying it was bad from a Marvel or standard movie standpoint but outside of its subject matter, the rest of the movie was middle of the road solid. And there's nothing wrong with that.




See this is where I'm conflicted, I think it should be a applauded for it's commercial success and heralded as a gateway movie about black folks that's not some by the numbers Tyler Perry clownin' bullshit however, by my own optics of movie quality it's nomination almost feels token. This is where I'm conflicted.

Then again, I'm not sure I've seen enough movies this year to say that BP shouldn't be nominated, might just be a weak year.
You summed up my feelings on this as well. But I also think this was a pretty weak year for movies. I'd have a hard time finding 10 films to put in my best of 2018 list.


I was hoping for a best actress nomination for Toni Collette in Hereditary.
 
Oct 28, 2017
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But it's nominated alongside Blackkklansman and Beale Street. They could've easily told Black Panther to fuck off and went with those two instead if they merely wanted to throw us a bone.

Maybe

just

MAYBE







a lot of people in Hollywood actually liked it and thought it deserved a nomination?

You could be right and that's cool too.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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No Searching?
No A quiet place?
Bohemian Rapsody?

Trash list.

Also Constance Wu acting was atrocious. Her nomination is laughable.
Those Disney dvd cases worked!
I'm with you on the bolded. I wouldn't say "atrocious", just meh, but nomination-worthy? Come on.

Won't somebody show John Cho some love.