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The 2019 Star Wars Special Editions (New 4K Transfer for Disney+ Contains MORE NEW CHANGES to Original Trilogy)

Anth0ny

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ok just signed up for disney+ and the first thing I did was click through the original trilogy

we seem to have a new 4K transfer for the OT. They look decent enough upon first glance. The fact that there was zero marketing for this absolutely blows my mind.

HOWEVER

I went to watch the infamous Greedo/Han scene from the Cantina... and good god almighty. WE HAVE NEW CHANGES. 42 GOD DAMN YEARS AFTER THE FACT. THIS RIDE NEVER ENDS:



For whatever reason Greedo gets a last word in. As if the scene wasn't already deader than dog shit, we have to go even further beyond.

We've gone from:

Yes, I'll bet you have BOOM
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to

Yes, I'll bet you have *SLIDES NECK OUT OF THE WAY TO IMPOSSIBLY AVOID POINT BLANK LASER BLAST* BOOM
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to now

Yes, I'll bet you have "I'm an alien" *SLIDES NECK OUT OF THE WAY TO IMPOSSIBLY AVOID POINT BLANK LASER BLAST* BOOM
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This is a "R2 hides behind rocks" tier change. Like... how? Why? Was George involved here? This is beyond nonsense. They didn't even provide a subtitle for Greedo's new final word there.

Gonna look for more stuff now.
 
ultracal31

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As I mentioned in the Disney+

The version of Return of the Jedi here is the the Vader screaming no near the end version
 
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Anth0ny

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sheev still lookin straight out of episode 3 in his hologram scene with vader in ESB.

you know, stuff they could actually tweak that would make sense. totally ignored, of course.
 
Slaythe

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ultracal31 said:
Speaking of,

Hayden is still there as well, all smiling and happy
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As he should be è.é


If the ghost can regrow limbs, wear any clothes he wants, regrow hair, have an appearance he literally never had, then he can make himself look young to match his mental image of himself before being turned into a monster.

Obiwan was fine being old since he grew old naturally.
 
Cross-Section

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As I posted in the other thread, this appears to be the only substantial change to ANH; nothing else is new besides the new color timing, the Fox/Lucas logo being the current versions and the typeface on the "A long time ago" and credits getting a redo. CG on Jabba and the Yavin battle looks a bit sharper in 4K as well.

Anth0ny said:
sheev still lookin straight out of episode 3 in his hologram scene with vader in ESB.

you know, stuff they could actually tweak that would make sense. totally ignored, of course.
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In the end, they aren't going to override Lucas. The Greedo change feels like a long-argued-about compromise.
 
Einchy

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Anth0ny said:
sheev still lookin straight out of episode 3 in his hologram scene with vader in ESB.

you know, stuff they could actually tweak that would make sense. totally ignored, of course.
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That's a change that I don't mind since he looks completely different in Jedi. It's like he was trying out a new look for a few days but then went back to his Episode III look.
 
sphagnum

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Anth0ny said:
This is a "R2 hides behind rocks" tier change. Like... how? Why? Was George involved here?
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These are probably the 4K versions that Lucasfilm has been holding back for years. So George was probably involved before the sale.

According to someone on TFN, they also fixed Obi-Wan lightsaber (again) during his duel. Did you notice if they fixed Luke's on the Falcon?

Color grading is apparently more in line with the theatrical releases as well. I hope AotC's blue tint is gone!
 
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Anth0ny

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"No. NOOOOOOOOOOOOO" still there in Jedi

ghost hayden too

for fucks sake

sphagnum said:
These are probably the 4K versions that Lucasfilm has been holding back for years. So George was probably involved before the sale.

According to someone on TFN, they also fixed Obi-Wan lightsaber (again) during his duel. Did you notice if they fixed Luke's on the Falcon?

Color grading is apparently more in line with the theatrical releases as well. I hope AotC's blue tint is gone!
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honestly can't remember how they looked in the blu ray transfers, but they look fine here. I remember the 2004 DVD lightsabers being completely ruined.
 
ultracal31

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sphagnum said:
According to someone on TFN, they also fixed Obi-Wan lightsaber (again) during his duel. Did you notice if they fixed Luke's on the Falcon?
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Luke with the saber looks about the same in the hut and on the falcon

Don't notice anything too different

It may be my phone but Vader red doesn't quite look red enough to me but it's not as bad as the pink saber issue on the 2004 dvd
 
Zed

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Disney is keeping the OG Star Wars in the vault to release it at a strategic time at a future date.
 
CloudWolf

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Remember how people were like "Now that Disney has Star Wars, they'll release the original versions". Hah!
 
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Anth0ny

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Took some shots of the lightsabers:

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The only change they need is throwing out like half of Ep6, and I'm only half-joking. The fact this series keeps getting retconned with posthumous foreshadowing after decades is just getting absurd, especially considering there's "only" 9 mainline movies with the one coming out next month. Shows how they really are unable to move away from the legacy characters and storylines and they're just trying to ride nostalgia until they can. Here's hoping that Episode 10, whenever that'll be, can finally work as a proper reboot for the universe. Let 500 years pass or something, be the stories about Darth Vader, Han Solo, etc. be just that: legends, myths, stuff they study in schools and that they use as guidance for decisions but ultimately stuff that does not matter in the storyline at all. They need to drop this 40+ years of baggage and for fuck's sake they gotta stop editing old movies to suit their new ones better.
 
Beer Monkey

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This Twitter's work is literally never going to end.

1997… 2004… 2011….and now 2019.

Yes, these changes were surely made by Lucas just like the last three rounds of changes
 
Lynd

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So they finally just outright redid the sabers? Meh.

Please just restore the theatrical cuts...
 
Zed

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Sargerus said:
Somehow people will blame GL for this.
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It's like poetry.

I still see countless conspiracy theories that GL still retains some legal control over Star Wars and/or he gets residue money from things involving "the original 6 movies and stuff that comes from them" somehow despite not a shred of evidence.
 
Beer Monkey

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Zed said:
It's like poetry.

I still see countless conspiracy theories that GL still retains some legal control over Star Wars and/or he gets residue money from things involving "the original 6 movies and stuff that comes from them" somehow despite not a shred of evidence.
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Nah, it's just that Lucas was working on a fourth round of revisions and that's what Disney got as the latest edit. No conspiracy needed.
 

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I mean, it's getting people to talk about D+, and judging by this thread it's done it's job as stealth advertising.
 
sphagnum

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I kind of like that Greedo change. Seems like he's throwing a really bad insult at Han.
 
Pottuvoi

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Not the change I was hoping for.
I wouldn't mind a proper fix to the couple of really crap added cgi or reduction of those few unnecessary added scenes.
 
Plasmid

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I wouldn't mind the changes if disney would just fully restore the original theatrical versions and have them separate.
 
Ushojax

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Jiggy said:
That is like, the main thing that desperately needs to be reverted. It completely ruins the greatest scene in the entire franchise. I don't even mind the special editions if you just remove those godawful "NOOOOOO"s.
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Imagine being the poor Lucasfilm sound engineer who had to add that NO with George looming over his desk. Probably shed a tear as he was forced to ruin the movie.
 
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