I wonder if Rocket will pick up a Switch for Groot while he's on Earth for when the whole thing's over with Endgame.
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The Academy Award Winning Marvel Cinematic Universe
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You mean Far From Home? The US trailer was always censored. The international trailer was not.
Yeah, whoops.
It wasn't censored last week before Captain Marvel.
Two things. One, I don't think I have to explain this, but "war" is a word with multiple definitions. One is armed conflict, the other is simply conflict. It's "war" in that fans of either side use anger, hate, and invective throw at each other for no difference than they love Marvel or DC. As someone noted "flame war" is a common phrase. I think most get this without me having to explain it, but hey, I'm here to help educate.
Now on the latter portion, Marvel and DC are friendly competition. They'll rib each other, sure, but like their Hollywood counterparts, they generally share the same people, with creatives milling back and forth. The stuff I'm mentioning, tend to get much worse, focused on tearing others down.
So, do the fan wars exist?
James Gunn seems to think so!
What? Black Panther review bombing?
It's all movies. More than a decade ago, we had scraps. Now we're feasting on great comic films and creators that freely hop between universes, and it's great. Folks need to chill.
2022 isn't bad, and yeah, we get a number of interesting projects in the meantime.
You're right, US isn't censored while the international one is.
Oh, please.
If corporate espionage, printed accusations of plagiarism that often got as personally insulting as any forum fan debate, and courtroom battles doesn't strike you as a war of sorts, I am genuinely afraid for anybody you might call a friend.
The culture is stupid, but pretending Marvel and DC didn't directly and intentionally create it themselves not all that long ago is silly. They've taken personal jabs at the opposition's creators that were anything but good-natured, and routinely did everything they could to foster a hostile relationship between the two entities.
not a ResetEra post or a Tweet. An Editor-in-Chief at Marvel once said this. Seriously. said:
The above quote spawned an actual comic, a maligned parody series that amounted to nothing more than a flame war in print form. It's rightfully considered one of the worst comic books of all time.
And on the Hollywood side of the business, even the creators haven't kept completely clear of the bullshit. David Ayer, the Suicide Squad director, joined a chant of "Fuck Marvel!" with some fans. At the World Premiere of the movie, no less.
It was juvenile and didn't amount to much more than that (just like most fan vitriol). He at least apologized for getting caught up in the moment soon afterwards, though.
I agree that anyone taking this seriously is a fucking moron, especially these days. Both sides doing great is the best outcome, for everyone. But uhhh, these niggas ain't got clean hands either. How could they? They're companies made of people like us, except they've got an even larger platform. They'll sing "Kumbaya" when it suits them, but they'll also drag the other when they need to grab a few headlines or feel someone over on the other side may have slighted them.
Yeah, incredible movie. It still surprises me that IW feels much shorter in run time than it actually is, the hours just fly by. I really hope that Endgame ends up being 3 hours long.
Frustratingly enough, my brother just doesn't seem to like MCU movies. He liked Iron Man, he thought The Winter Soldier was ok but he has pretty much disliked everything else including Guardians, Spider-man and the Avengers movies. I thought Infinity War would be the the movie that sold him on the MCU but nope. He likes solo superhero movies and a more grounded tone, stuff like Batman (Nolan) and Daredevil (the Netflix show). Usually our tastes align fairly closely, we both hated Snyder's DC movies for example, but the cosmic weirdness and the jokey tone isn't working for him.
But...but....all the videos youtube recommended to me because I like to watch theory crafting videos about Endgame told me that Captain Marvel was going to destroy not only Marvel, not only Disney, but the entire art form of movie making. Why did youtube lie to me?!
You mean a high-res version? There's only the one I posted on the last page so far.
Link to high-res version.
I'm using this as my wallpaper (made the size smaller to fit the forum). I won't ever forget that scene was filmed in my country, and that I've been standing looking down on those rice fields myself. Now I want to see Thanos go about his farming life in Avengers: Endgame before he eventually clashes with the heroes again.
Why do I get the feeling Thanos will whoop some ass within the first 20 minutes and then proceed to destroy the gauntlet as a huge "fuck you, Avengers, I'm done with this shit"?
I actually wonder if it might be the reverse. Like, maybe the first part of the film is the Avengers hunting down Thanos and, as the united front that they failed to be in Infinity War, along with Carol, they bring down Thanos in the first hour. Problem is, that doesn't solve much, and actually reversing the snap requires another approach.
It'll probably be the other way around, though.
This is most likely, and is why I've never understood the "I don't wan't Captain Marvel to get all the credit for saving the snapped" stuff. Physically beating Thanos isn't going to change anything re: the snap, beating him AND undoing the snap with the quantum realm/time stone/a third thing are going to be the two plot threads of Endgame and CM can only really tip the scales in The Avenger's favour in one of them.
About the first act of Avengers: Endgame - really just based on the trailer and speculation (I haven't read any fake/real leaks thankfully):
It was pointed out in the trailer when you see Scott Lang dressed up as Ant-Man in the Avengers HQ, that some fire-y stuff is coming that you can see through the windows in the background. So I assume the Avengers HQ gets blown up at the end of Act 1, and all the office stuff on the ground (like the pencil Ant-Man jumps off of) is what was in the HQ. Dunno if it'll be Thanos coming to them.
It was pointed out in the trailer when you see Scott Lang dressed up as Ant-Man in the Avengers HQ, that some fire-y stuff is coming that you can see through the windows in the background. So I assume the Avengers HQ gets blown up at the end of Act 1, and all the office stuff on the ground (like the pencil Ant-Man jumps off of) is what was in the HQ. Dunno if it'll be Thanos coming to them.
Hawkeye looks like he's running through an aqua duct, probably escaping the destruction.
While the Avenger everyone figured would save the day will with the other thing; Ant-Man!
I've been rewatching Infinity War trailers and the 3 things I got from it was:
- Unless two people are physically shown together on screen, they aren't actually interacting in the movie despite what the trailer implies (and even then someone might be CG'd out)
- Speaking of CG, they will CG out or cut away from any plot important changes in the characters. Which is obvious even in the Endgame trailers (white suit avenger scene is obviously messed with....)
- They are more than willing to imply plot points or character interactions that don't even occur in the movie. The movie the trailers implied was basically a completely separate thing outside of "Thanos fights everyone".
Outside of the obvious big things like "they use time shenanigans to undo the snap"
I mean, the big one is the straight up fake shot of Hulk running with the group in Wakanda. And the infinity stones being deleted from Thanos in Wakanda.
These trailers don't mean SHIT! Believe nothing!
That's the beauty of having the directors for their respective characters there to help with the production of Infinity War. I know for sure that James Gunn helped with the Guardians scenes (he was even mentioned in the credits as an Executive Producer), but I think Coogler & Watiti helped with Black Panther & Thor respectively.
So a billy is a lock? Currently waiting for us to be seated. Seeing it for a 2nd time.
Fair enough! Fan wars tend to be more pitched and consistent, but Marvel and DC's corporate sides aren't always above reproach.
This is such a Samuel L Jackson answer.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...muel-l-jackson-captain-marvel-interview-2019/
https://www.esquire.com/entertainme...muel-l-jackson-captain-marvel-interview-2019/
I can't help but feel like this plays to the sterotype of: "Stoic more masculine female character can't be straight".
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Eh, to me she was both. Though maybe stoic is too strong.
Also I feel like it ignores the context as to why Carol helped raise Monica. Carol was raised in an abusive household. She was "adopted" into the Rambeau after she left to get away from that. Had her home life been very different she wouldn't have been living with them directly.
Now if they want to make her have a female lover, that's all fine.
Overall it just feel like shippers trying to take control of things. Which is uh... never good.
Edit: I guess to basically clarify what I mean is that I feel like the "tough women can't be straight" thing is weird and plays to this idea that male audiences can't stand to see a female character with a guy cause it would make them uncomfortable.
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This is probably gonna be the end of Avengers movies until they get the FOX properties some movies and an overarching threat, no?
Man, it sucks when your internet goes to shit over the weekend. I can't see half of the images and tweets you guys are posting. :/
Went to see Captain Marvel two more times this weekend, yesterday alone and today with some friends. Both times the theater was packed. I'm actually liking the movie more on rewatches.
Last week after I saw CM for the first time I started a rewatch of the entire MCU. Fury's words on the post-credit scene of Iron Man take on a new meaning after watching this movie. Already watched IM2 and about to start Thor. Watching the Marvel Shorts too (hope those make a comeback).
Went to see Captain Marvel two more times this weekend, yesterday alone and today with some friends. Both times the theater was packed. I'm actually liking the movie more on rewatches.
Last week after I saw CM for the first time I started a rewatch of the entire MCU. Fury's words on the post-credit scene of Iron Man take on a new meaning after watching this movie. Already watched IM2 and about to start Thor. Watching the Marvel Shorts too (hope those make a comeback).
When Maria showed up, my girl asked me in the theater if they were lovers. I told her no and she refused to believe it until their relationship played out a bit more.
They're just friends. I get wanting to see it onscreen, but this ain't that.
That time is coming, though. And soon.
Definitely. We're in a lull mostly, these days. But, someone on either side will say or do something stupid again eventually. Such is the way of things.
They're just friends. I get wanting to see it onscreen, but this ain't that.
That time is coming, though. And soon.
Definitely. We're in a lull mostly, these days. But, someone on either side will say or do something stupid again eventually. Such is the way of things.
Carol is hard to categorise, she's is both feminine and a tomboy in the movie. Which is great. She doesn't have to fit into boxes completely to be plausible. Usually in the films it's one of the other, like with Black Widow and Scarlet Witch. Giving the Avengers' women more variety in personalities. I don't know how she'd react to those two lol
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