One of the largest components of the Alt-Right's emergence is their tightly knit online communities. They're breeding grounds for conspiracies, racism, misogyny and all-round festering pits. They've also seen huge movements on Facebook/Twitter/YouTube - however those three major websites have made 'some' action to mitigate their rise whereas other places are happy to let them grow and the alt-right weren't as gathered on those sites.
On Facebook/Twitter/YouTube the algorithms tended to lead you to content fit around you. Other sites have gave the Alt-Right their own space, or sites have been set up specifically for them.
How integral to the existence of the Alt-Right do you think these online communities are and what is a solution to them? Do you believe in the 'quarantine' argument, do you think simply banning them will solve it? What exactly can be done to control these online groups and their anonymity?
Or conversely does anyone here not actually oppose such communities and bans? Why do you back them? Do you participate in these communities?
Some reading for context and background, just some sample quotes that don't tell the whole picture of the article so I'd recommend you read the full things.
https://gizmodo.com/study-finds-banning-reddits-bigoted-jerkwards-worked-1803766754
https://gizmodo.com/study-finds-banning-reddits-bigoted-jerkwards-worked-1803766754
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2018/01/let-s-colonise-myspace-inside-alt-right-s-internet
On Facebook/Twitter/YouTube the algorithms tended to lead you to content fit around you. Other sites have gave the Alt-Right their own space, or sites have been set up specifically for them.
How integral to the existence of the Alt-Right do you think these online communities are and what is a solution to them? Do you believe in the 'quarantine' argument, do you think simply banning them will solve it? What exactly can be done to control these online groups and their anonymity?
Or conversely does anyone here not actually oppose such communities and bans? Why do you back them? Do you participate in these communities?
Some reading for context and background, just some sample quotes that don't tell the whole picture of the article so I'd recommend you read the full things.
https://gizmodo.com/study-finds-banning-reddits-bigoted-jerkwards-worked-1803766754
https://gizmodo.com/study-finds-banning-reddits-bigoted-jerkwards-worked-1803766754
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/19/reddit-and-the-struggle-to-detoxify-the-internetFor the banned community users that remained active, the ban drastically reduced the amount of hate speech they used across Reddit by a large and significant amount. Following the ban, Reddit saw a 90.63% decrease in the usage of manually filtered hate words by r/fatpeoplehate users, and a 81.08% decrease in the usage of manually filtered hate words by r/CoonTown users (relative to their respective control groups). The observed changes in hate speech usage were verified to be caused by the ban and not random chance, via permutation tests.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-43383766Some of the conspiracy theorists left Reddit and reunited on Voat, a site made by and for the users that Reddit sloughs off. (Many social networks have such Bizarro networks, which brand themselves as strongholds of free speech and in practice are often used for hate speech. People banned from Twitter end up on Gab; people banned from Patreon end up on Hatreon.) Other Pizzagaters stayed and regrouped on r/The_Donald, a popular pro-Trump subreddit. Throughout the Presidential campaign, The_Donald was a hive of Trump boosterism. By this time, it had become a hermetic subculture, full of inside jokes and ugly rhetoric. The community’s most frequent commenters, like the man they’d helped propel to the Presidency, were experts at testing boundaries. Within minutes, they started to express their outrage that Pizzagate had been deleted.
https://www.vox.com/culture/2017/11/13/16624688/reddit-bans-incels-the-donald-controversySteve Huffman, Reddit's co-founder and current chief executive, remarked at length at SXSW about r/The_Donald, a subreddit used by President Trump's supporters and Trump himself during his 2016 campaign.
Despite calls from some users that the section be taken down for flouting rules on hate speech, Mr Huffman has stood firm on keeping it up, with a few measures to limit its spread.
"It's crass and offensive and that is part of their identity," he said.
"[But] there's a difference between conflicting with our values and conflicting with our content policy."
Most troubling to observers is The_Donald's role as a thriving hub for conspiracy theories. It may not be the origin of vicious content - such as suggesting school children involved in shootings are actors - but it is the leading amplifier.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...chan-celebrated-trumps-victory/?noredirect=onThe comments from the Reddit users mentioned above neatly highlight not just the cyclical nature of Reddit’s policy changes but also the true problem with them: It’s not the policies themselves, but the inconsistency with which they’re enforced, that leads to trouble.
This is a theme we’ve seen again and again with various internet communities, from YouTube and Tumblr’s repeated conflation of queer content with sexually explicit content to Twitter’s ongoing failure to combat hate speech and abuse. The best and strongest content policies can essentially be rendered useless if they aren’t enforced in a consistent and responsible way.
In Reddit’s case, this inconsistency is reflected in the site’s ongoing accommodation of what’s arguably the single most damaging community on the site: r/The_Donald, which became the major hub of Donald Trump’s alt-right supporters in the lead-up to the 2016 election.
The_Donald has become notorious for its incitements to violence, its blatant white supremacist rhetoric, and its use as a lure for the alt-right into more explicit forms of right-wing extremism. Trump’s notorious anti-CNN tweet, which seemed to advocate violence against journalists and arguably violated Twitter’s own content policy, originated from a post on The_Donald. Prior to the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, The_Donald hosted a stickied post encouraging members to attend the rally and march alongside neo-Nazi and “ethnostate” groups, because, “In this case, the pursuit of preserving without shame white culture, our goals happen to align.” Most recently, a member of The_Donald, an alt-right blogger who formerly worked for Milo Yiannopoulos, murdered his own father after his father accused him of being a Nazi.
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2018/01/let-s-colonise-myspace-inside-alt-right-s-internet4chan’s /pol/ boards have, for much of the 2016 campaign, felt like an alternate reality, one where a Donald Trump presidency was not only possible but inevitable. At some point Tuesday evening, the board’s Trump-loving, racist memers began to realize that they were actually right.
“I’m f—— trembling out of excitement brahs,” one 4channer wrote Tuesday night, adding a very excited Pepe the Frog drawing. “We actually elected a meme as president.”
https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2018/01/let-s-colonise-myspace-inside-alt-right-s-internet
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/11/technology/alt-right-internet.htmlPerhaps the most troubling of these new social networks is Voat, an online forum that hosts an abundance of conspiracy theories, most notably “Pizzagate”. The Pizzagate conspiracy posits that Hillary Clinton is at the centre of a paedophile ring run out of a Washington DC pizzeria. In December 2016, a man attempting to “self-investigate” the conspiracy fired three shots inside the restaurant.
In less immediate ways, the fragmentation of social networks also damages the left. Davey warns that the exodus of the far right from Twitter and Facebook allows the online left to engage in so-called cumulative radicalisation. “The more insular you are, the less you listen to opposing voices,” he says. “There’s a danger people become more closeted and only engage with people who tacitly confirm their world view. ”
If you’ve lost sleep worrying about the growing power of the alt-right — that shadowy coalition that includes white nationalists, anti-feminists, far-right reactionaries and meme-sharing trolls — I may have found a cure for your anxiety.
Just try using its websites.
In recent months, as sites like YouTube, Twitter and Facebook have cracked down on hate speech and barred several high-profile conservative users, the alt-right made a declaration of technological independence from Silicon Valley. Hard-right activists vowed to create their own versions of these digital services, on which all views would be welcome, no matter how crude or incendiary.
More than a dozen “alt-tech” companies have now emerged, each promising a refuge from political correctness and censorship. There is Gab, a kind of alt-Twitter social network that began last year, whose early adopters included prominent figures like Milo Yiannopoulos and Andrew Anglin, the founder of the neo-Nazi Daily Stormer website. There is WrongThink (alt-Facebook), PewTube (alt-YouTube), Voat (alt-Reddit), Infogalactic (alt-Wikipedia) and GoyFundMe (alt-Kickstarter). There is even WASP.love, a dating site for white nationalists and others “wishing to preserve their heritage.”