Well I kind of realized that tooDude, this is literally a homage to one of his first armors in the mid 60s to 70s which he used for many and many issues. lol
But I never liked that look either
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The bad look of Square Enix's Avengers game is making Marvel Ultimate Alliance: The Black Order looks good
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But I never liked that look either
LOL so true! When the studio head or marvel guy - can't remember which - started saying that crystal dynamics were going up for their own interpretation of the Avengers, I just rolled my eyes. LITERALLY looks exactly the same - same Avengers future jet design - I mean nothing about this is their own interpretation.
Art. Styles.
Do you also think Breath of The Wild or Okami are mobile games?
"Better" is a relative term, but I do agree that the character models STYLE looks better in MUA3 than in Avengers (pseudo realistic cosplay characters)
Dude, this is literally a homage to one of his first armors in the mid 60s to 70s which he used for many and many issues. lol
Except it doesnt look like that. They could have done that armour and it would have been fine. They went with two clashing styles on the amour and helmet and it came out looking like C3PO had sex with a Cyberman and created that abomination.
I don't plan on getting either (at best, I could see myself impulse buying Ultimate Alliance on a lazy summer day for some beers and local co-op with my comic nerd friends), so I have no horse in this race. But, of the two, UA3 looks leagues more appealing.
In addition to the notion of grinding for a shitload of fanservice-y characters and outfits, which is just really appealing for a comic book game, the art direction is no contest. UA3's voice casting still gives it a slight dose of that "Dollar Tree Avengers" vibe (I'd rather they just don't try and ape the MCU at all if they don't have that license), but the character and world design is head and shoulders above what Crystal Dynamics is doing. Those tiny-headed, poe-faced characters (with just the slightest of not-really-smart tweaks on MCU costumes) give me major NetherRealm vibes, from a few years ago when their character models were real uggo.
In addition to the notion of grinding for a shitload of fanservice-y characters and outfits, which is just really appealing for a comic book game, the art direction is no contest. UA3's voice casting still gives it a slight dose of that "Dollar Tree Avengers" vibe (I'd rather they just don't try and ape the MCU at all if they don't have that license), but the character and world design is head and shoulders above what Crystal Dynamics is doing. Those tiny-headed, poe-faced characters (with just the slightest of not-really-smart tweaks on MCU costumes) give me major NetherRealm vibes, from a few years ago when their character models were real uggo.
It's not a question of art style, as MUA3 looks generic as all heck... it just was not well made. The models aren't well made at all and the effects are the kinda things you would find for spells on kemco 3d RPGs on Android.
More like Marvel Games. Disney don't really get involved with Marvel outside of the movies, which they distribute.
At this point, I'm just thinking that it's mandated that they need to follow MCU designs and influences, considering the cartoon, comics and games.
Of course not. But when your normal speaking voice is already associated with a lot of other characters, it usually helps to try and set a new one apart from the pack.
Yeah the armor itself looks ok but the helmet FACEPLATE looks off. Too thin. Mark III-43 regular faceplate width would help a lot to the overall aesthetic.
If the MCU movies didn't exist, the characters would probably look better since they wouldn't be attempting to recreate them
Oh. I see your point. I was focusing on the 3D models themselves, not the rest of the effects, assets, physics, etc.
I mean, the hard truth is that there's not a huge group of people who like Marvel outside of the movies. So they're stuck in a predicament of trying to capture those people people watch the films.
Yeah, I just don't think it's fair to hold that against the actors. Their voice is their voice. They can't help it if some people associate their voice with other characters. If their acting is strong enough and the writing is interesting enough, that feeling should hopefully disappear on its own after a while regardless.
On topic though... I'm definitely not a fan of the "kinda sorta but not really the MCU actors" look that they went with for this game. Give me a more original take on these characters like Insomniac did with Spider-Man.
Looks like all the MUA games I played before, maybe they are keeping with the same style. Oh mobile game, so better graphics =better game.
***I have no pony in this fight, I own the x, the pro and the switch***
My opinion could change once we see gameplay of Avengers,
What about the models in MUA3 constitute them not being "well-made"?
On the Switch for the type of game with a bunch of characters on-screen they are obviously going to have less polygons and less detailed textures but what's there jives with comic designs and the proportions seems correct. What am I missing?
For those of you that say cap looks weird. Well I finally figured it out. They somehow made him look like a slightly younger Roger Goodell.
I was thinking that too during the MUA segment of the Direct. Even with its crappy framerate and low-detail models it still looks so much better than the actively terrible Square Enix thing.
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Seems couple of outlets have the same thinking too.
It just feels so much like MvC:I that I can't enjoy the look of SE Avengers. Also feels like im watching SYFY movie called "Revengers" or something, with how bootleg and silly the models look. They should have went full comic book, not try to copy the MCU 80% of the way, but forget the other 20%.
MAU looks like a balls to the wall COMIC BOOK game. I feel like it will be like comparing Into the Spiderverse to Amazing Spiderman 2. One is clearly meant to be this "Edgy" thing, with huge budget, big actors, (Amazing Spiderman 2), the other is completely stylized and fresh, and benefits from it. MAU is the latter in this scenario.
MAU looks like a balls to the wall COMIC BOOK game. I feel like it will be like comparing Into the Spiderverse to Amazing Spiderman 2. One is clearly meant to be this "Edgy" thing, with huge budget, big actors, (Amazing Spiderman 2), the other is completely stylized and fresh, and benefits from it. MAU is the latter in this scenario.
This is where im at with SE avengers game. Nothing got me excited but ill keep my eye on this game
*shrugs* I like both. This comparison feels lame to even be making. I'll play Ultimate Alliance and Avengers both, eventually.
sorry, SE Avengers looks like a fucking SyFY movie parody. They really dropped the ball on the characters and some design choices on that game. Again, Amazing Spiderman 2(SE Avengers) vs Into the Spiderverse (MAU3) is where i'm at right now on pure style and interest. could change of course.
It's comic book Games. As long as the game is a blast, I could care less how it looks. Gameplay is king.
It's probably been said elsewhere but the Avengers game looks like they assumed they could use the likenesses of the movie cast and then had to replace them a few weeks before e3.
Like Thor's beard doesn't even look real. He looks like a man with a bad fake beard. How do you fuck up a beard?
Like Thor's beard doesn't even look real. He looks like a man with a bad fake beard. How do you fuck up a beard?
Neither game looks good, each having a unique set of problems. Square's game lacks personality, appearing to be a shameless attempt at milking the Marvel license. Marvel Ultimate Alliance: The Black Order doesn't look fun and its visuals could pass for a budget game from last gen. There's so much potential with this license, and I'd love to see a studio take advantage of it the same way Rocksteady and WB Montreal did the Batman license, but these two games look to be squandering that opportunity.
That and the fact that the game director and even their lead design said that they are taking the criticisms seriously and they are going to fix it makes me more confident that they will be able to deliver next year. From Insomniac's Marvel Spider-Man James Stevenson minutes ago on the Avengers game thread:
The lead design in that Q&A also said that everything we've seen so far is pre-alpha. With the backlash and how much money is involved in this, I think it's safe to assume that they will work their asses off to deliver the best game possible.
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The Hawkeye and Scarlet Witch's design is terribly outdated now. Their headgears are ridiculous. Other than that their designs are great.
The problem with Avengers isn't even to do with how close it is or isn't to the MCU, its just about personality. Like, their Thor doesn't need to be Hemsworth Thor, but boy does he feel boring based on what we've seen. Same with Steve. Tony has a bit of personality
Yeah. It's weird how bad the supposedly AAA Avengers game looks to me. Hopefully the gameplay is solid? But MUA looks a lot more pleasing to my eyes. Also, Spider-Man looks much better than the Avengers game.
I don't know why they'd go with such horrible voice acting and bland designs for the characters.
I don't know why they'd go with such horrible voice acting and bland designs for the characters.
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Very Fornite-y, cool.
However in motion it doesn't look that good.
MUA3 still has more cohesive aesthetics.
